silverharp wrote: » anyone catch the new Irish domestic violence adverts? was surprised when I saw that one of them showed the man as a victim.
New campaign asks: 'If you witnessed domestic violence, what would you do?'http://www.thejournal.ie/domestic-abuse-2-3084760-Nov2016/
THE GOVERNMENT’S €950,000 domestic violence campaign aimed at involving bystanders who witness abuse and getting them to act or offer support will begin this Friday. The campaign is based on research which shows that although 70% of people think domestic abuse in Ireland is a common problem and wish to help, people were unsure of what to do in reaction to incidences of domestic violence. Funding for the campaign is allocated for 2016 and 2017, and involves artwork from Oscar-winning director Ben Cleary and an award-winning photographer. The campaign will be launched across outdoor, online, print, and television outlets, and depicts both men and women being assaulted through a half-open door.
Speaking on the additional funding, the Minister said that the upturn in the economy allowed funds to be freed up for the cause: “I do think it is money well spent. This is a problem, and we need to interrupt it.” She also said that this national ad campaign would be accompanied by local and grassroots projects, and that there needed to be greater supports around home ownership. “Women who choose to stay in their family home need to be supported, and there will be those who have to leave. Perpetrators will also be brought to justice.”
Although the campaign depicts both men and women who are at risk of domestic violence, the images of women will appear most frequently in the campaign, in proportion to figures which show they are more likely to be victims of violence, as well as more extreme cases.
Can you name the womans groups who were not supportive of these adds? Heard it mentioned on radio today
Domestic violence convention would make men ‘second class citizens’ Narrative tells us ‘it’s ok to say any negative thing about men’ Sat, Nov 19, 2016, 16:34 Efforts to ratify a European convention on domestic violence must be resisted as part of a “highly biased and harmful narrative” in Ireland that places women above men, a conference on Saturday heard. Last year, Ireland signed the Council of Europe Convention on preventing and combating violence against women and domestic violence, commonly referred to as the Istanbul Convention, and set in motion steps toward its full ratification. Justice Minister Frances Fitzgerald had said the move represented an “important milestone” for campaigners. “Violence against women is a societal problem and the Istanbul Convention is an important instrument in tackling that problem,” she said.
Walter H Price wrote: » If you see a woman being assaulted , mugged , groped etc ... A real man steps in and does something about it. Fcuk all thees wanky new notions about gender roles, men are men and women are women, we have a responsibility as lads to protect the women in our lives because lets be honest for the most part the're the more vulnerable sex and a proper man stands up and is counted when they see a vulnerable person in trouble be they a woman , elderly or a child. Some junkie, gypo or pov tries to steal my fiances phone on the street or puts a hand where they shouldn't, i'm not going crying like a little b!tch to the guards , he's going to A&E and i'm going to buy a new shirt
silverharp wrote: » I dunno , if you intervene in a "lovers tiff" likelyhood is you escalate things and you end up in an A&E or dead for your trouble and the couple go home and have sexy time. Same thing if you try to intervene in a bag snatch or something, wasn't there a teenager in Dublin a couple of years back that ended up with serious stab wounds for the sake of a stranger's handbag.
Walter H Price wrote: » There's a difference between a row and something getting out of hand.like if you see two people having a screaming match move along , if he slaps her you should probably slap him .
KingBrian2 wrote: » I believe men and women should help each other out if in their in need.
Walter H Price wrote: » There's a difference between a row and something getting out of hand.like if you see two people having a screaming match move along , if he slaps her you should probably slap him . there probably was but at least there's respect in that , there's no respect in looking the other way like a pussy. Stepped in plenty of times in Dublin yet to get stabbed or see siught of a needle or syringe , the trick is speed , throw a punch first ask questions later if you bother you're arse at all ahahahahaha
eviltwin wrote: » I don't understand the 'you chose to date him' argument.
iptba wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH3zXk4s0mw and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Min3O_D_wM4
johnnyskeleton wrote: » Do they have any advice as to what you should actually do when you don't walk away? Experience tells us that if a random person intervenes they will no be thanked by the victim of domestic violence. So in either of those videos, if the sister went upstairs to see if everything was ok the couple would probably say it's fine and it would make matters worse. In the second video if the guy intervened what exactly is he supposed to do to stop the abuse? I'm genuinely wondering about that issue, and it is more pronounced when the people involved might be drunk or on drugs etc. The problem with these campaigns is that they target people who don't commit or receive domestic abuse and make them feel bad about not resoliving the problem, but in reality what can they do? Conceiveably, these videos are akin to victim shaming - they are bystander shaming. These campaigns know they are ineffective against the actual perpetrators of domestic violence, and have limited success in getting through to the victims. Not content with informing victims and trying to discourage the perpetrators, they now want everyone else to feel bad for not making this awful situation stop.
Sleepy wrote: » Even if we'd ever actually seen her assaulting him and reported it, he'd no doubt have refused to press charges for fear of losing his kids. Sadly, unless the victim actually wants help, there's next to nothing one can do.
209 women died violently in Ireland since 1996http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/1125/834258-womens-aid-report/
WHAT IS FEMICIDE? Femicide is broadly accepted to be the killing of women and girls by men.5
Femicide is generally defined as the murder of women because they are women, though some definitions include any murders of women or girls. Some definitions also include cases where women are the perpetrators but most refine it to cases where the perpetrator is male. The Women’s Aid Femicide Watch 1996 – 2016 includes all females killed in Ireland, aged 13 plus killed by a male perpetrator and cases yet to be resolved.
A study by World Health Organisation and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine show that more than 38% of all murders of women globally are reported to be committed by an intimate partner. In comparison, the same study estimates that about 6% of all murders of men are committed by an intimate partner.8
iptba wrote: » So, based on a quick look, it looks like by definition females killed by other females were not counted which would make it look like a problem exclusively caused by men. And of course, male victims themselves are not included.
gizmo555 wrote: » Some years ago when Women's Aid published similar statistics about the number of women killed by male partners, John Waters contacted them to ask what the figures were for the number of men killed by female spouses or partners. Their response was to the effect that they didn't know and it was no concern of theirs.
PucaMama wrote: » That's because they are women's aid. For women. It's in the name.
Lemming wrote: » And whilst you'd be right in that their focus is on women, these groups are also driving the narrative on Domestic Violence campaigns. Can you not see a rather large gaping hole in that particular setup?
PucaMama wrote: » A men's group would sort that out.
