alastair wrote: » Milo is a creation of Milo. The 'fight back' against the windmills of 'SJW's' is a fabricated construct to rationalise sad old reactionary intolerance.
Milo Yiannopoulos 4 hrs · Facebook Mentions · My old high school has been bullied into canceling my talk on Tuesday by the "counter-extremism" unit at the U.K. Department of Education. 'Who even knew the DoE had a counter-extremism unit? And that it wasn't set up to combat terrorism but rather to punish gays with the wrong opinions? Perhaps if I'd called the speech "MUSLIMS ARE AWESOME!" they'd have left us alone. Disgusted.
midnight city wrote: » Milo is a creation of the liberal left, someone like him was bound to come out fighting after years and years of the extreme end of feminism attacking men and other sjw's attacking white people. It was only a matter of time before someone emerged to fight back. He is the opposite extreme and he has an audience. There are more and more like him emerging all the time too.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Are you limiting the scope to physical attacks?
Brian? wrote: » Can you post some examples of feminists attacking men and SJWs attacking white people?
Tony EH wrote: » So, not only is this mouthy article gay, he's also a Jew? :rolleyes: I'd like to take this noisy clown and put him in a time machine, send him back to 1944 and ship him off to a small place in Poland. Not only wouldn't it take long before he's in a ensamble consisting of stripey rags with a pink triangle and a yellow star sown on them, he would renounce his beloved right wing quicker than you could say the words "gas" and "chamber". Talentless hacks like this guy are actually quite dangerous IMO. They play a disingenuous game riling up people's (in some cases legitimate) grievances for their own gain and not caring about the fallout. They are content with the money in their pocket. He bangs on about so-called SJW's, while ignoring the work of previous social justice campaigners who fought for gay rights and against anti-semitism in the past century. It was his beloved right wing that was instrumental in suppressing those rights and the left wing he disparages so often that were tireless in their support for them in a climate when it wasn't popular to be so inclined and Milo wouldn't be sitting where he is today if it wasn't for the left wing he so despises. The more I hear from this guy, the more I'm sickened by the little twat. A deeply, deeply, unplesant individual that represents everything wrong about some parts of the political spectrum operating today.
Rjd2 wrote: » So one of the main alt right people Richard b Spencer had a rally this week and well its pretty grim reading.:(http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/alt-right-salutes-donald-trump.html
Jep Gambardella wrote: » I'm assuming Bannon has left now to work for Trump though?
oscarBravo wrote: » The idea that the alt-right is an inevitable backlash to the "SJW" movement is a textbook example of lazy equivalence. With apologies to the mods, I thought this was well-timed:
ancapailldorcha wrote: » Still does AFAIK. He's Breitbart's technology editor unless he recently left.
oscarBravo wrote: » I think you've badly undermined your entire thesis by including this as part of it. In response to her creation of a YouTube series on "Tropes vs Women in Video Games", she was subjected to a tidal wave of online harassment, including rape and death threats. That, for me, sums up the difference between "SJWs" and the alt-right. A woman suggests that maybe we should look carefully at how female characters are presented in video games; in response she's threatened - on an epic scale - with rape and murder. The idea that the alt-right is an inevitable backlash to the "SJW" movement is a textbook example of lazy equivalence.
20Cent wrote: » So the alt right Queen Milo interviewed on Channel 4 News. There is the usual shouting talking over and rude behavior from him. It does highlight a large issue with the alt right. That is can one be provocative/satirical/mischievous or serious but not both. They also have their own definitions of issues ie what feminism is. One interesting thing is how he says they want to be fact based and post truth. You can actually see the moment milo realises he's been shown to be full of it at about 4.50. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJiNeCBpCHQ
Phoebas wrote: » I don't know if its just me, but none of those links worked. More than likely someone trying to supresses you.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » Need any more?
hatrickpatrick wrote: » Or video game developers writing however the f*ck they want to write. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Sarkeesian)
Brian? wrote: » I couldn't agree more. Who is the left wing equivalent of Milo? He's a reaction to a myth that doesn't exist. Social justice warrior is a throw away term used to stifle any debate. Many people on the alt right wholeheartedly embrace name calling. They love to use terms like social justice warriors, snowflakes or feminazis to describe people who simply want a more tolerant and equal society.
alastair wrote: » Dare I suggest that the whole shirt business was; A. Nothing like you describe, in that it neither turned the focus from the core story, and B. Wasn't presented as evidence of him devaluing all women as sexual objects. Given that he was working amongst female colleagues at the time, it was fairly obvious he must have come to terms with gender equality in his field. It was raised as a totem of sexism in the scientific community, but that argument really didn't gain any traction. The shirt was clearly considered inappropriate by many who wouldn't be remotely considered 'SJW's, seemingly forgetting that sartorial decision-making and scientists have never been great bedfellows. But mainly; C. This isn't remotely in the equivalence territory. It's a silly season story, with a frigging shirt at it's centre. I'm going to suggest a thesis here. This notion that offensive trolling from idiotic reactionaries is the inevitable mirror of the same kind of thing from idiotic trolling progressives, is just the sort of self-defeating introspective hand-wringing from progressives, that cynical reactionaries will delight in summoning up. There's actually very little truth to it at all. Just as there's very little truth in the notion that Trump's win in the elections is down to failings on the progressive narrative in politics. They're both a crock.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » I'll compile a list for you tonight when I'm home. I'm sure I have some of them bookmarked. One example off the top of my head, which I will search for a link to, was an article in either the Journal or Telegraph by a woman who suggested that ordinary, decent men should still feel a stab of shame or discomfort because of what other men do, just because they're also men. Reverse the genders and neither publication would have touched the article with a ten foot barge pole. As soon as I find it, I will link to it here. Here's a more tangible one. Remember that guy who was instrumental in landing a satellite on an asteroid for the first time? Well, an internet hate mob of SJWs managed to turn the focus of that story away from the massive achievement and onto the fact that he was wearing a sexually explicit t-shirt in the office, and how this was somehow evidence of him devaluing all women to sex objects, or some such equally BS logic. As a result of the furore whipped up by the aforementioned internet mob, instead of getting to celebrate his big achievement, he had to apologise, on the brink of tears, on TV for being "offensive". This is the kind of sh!te that is tolerated from the left, and it absolutely disgusts me and furthermore infuriates me that as a self-styled liberal, my political alignment is now intractably associated with these morons.http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213819/your-bowling-shirt-is-holding-back-progress
alastair wrote: » I've no recollection of any such articles. Care to link to some? These hate mobs? Again - where's the evidence of this? Lots of rhetoric, but notable lack of substance. Let's see the substance.
Ferrari3600 wrote: » SJW cucks PUA blah blah Beta males blah blah Cuckservatives, they are worse than the NAZI STALINISTS blah blah
hatrickpatrick wrote: » How about the emergence of articles in mainstream outlets such as the Irish Times, Examiner, Journal etc which suggest that all men should feel responsible for the minority of men who behave badly? How about the fact that anyone with even the slightest anti-immigration views is routinely labelled a racist, without question, and this is seen as a reasonable inference? How about the fact, as others have suggested here, that you couldn't be anti-gay marriage during the last referendum without being utterly reviled for it by the SJW left? And most dangerously at all, how about the fact that the SJW left engages in the creation of online hate mobs, just like the alt right, but are almost never banned or censored for this, unlike the alt right? I'm fairly far left myself, I'm just anti-regressive politics regardless of who it comes from. But it does seem to me that appalling behaviour from my own side of the political aisle is tolerated to a far greater extent in mainstream society and media compared with appalling behaviour from those on the far right.
alastair wrote: » I'm at a loss as to who and where this extremist social justice activity presents itself. I'm well aware of the claims, but the substance is another thing.
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