mickmackmcgoo wrote: » Heard today 45 players have been called up for training on the hurling panel . Obviously no official training allowed yet . Some young players who weren't involved in the under 21 team this year too.
culbaire wrote: Was there not training last week? Who is going to fund costs for 45 players? Presumably - as was the case last year- there will be training on Christmas morning as well. Stupidity of the highest order!!! Players need a break after a very hard season. Otherwise they will be burned out by August 2017.
Cake Man wrote: » Is that Martin O'Neill or Martin "F" O'Neill? Both play for Mount Sion and the former was on the team a few years ago under Ryan but hasn't been involved much under Derek. I ask because MFO'Neill was on the team of the year so not too sure who is being referred to.
3ships wrote: » Martin F
cul beag wrote: » Token gesture stuff bringing in these fellas because we know there won't be any major changes. Prunty I think could be looked at as his size could have a difference if we come up against the likes of Walter Walsh or John Conlon later in the championship. Again we'll have the usual 15-20 names that he'll pick from and the rest will make up the numbers for training like they have been doing for a number of years. They'll get a run out then in a dead rubber league game and normal service will resume after that. 2-3 will be thrown into the Munster league that have joined the panel this year and that keeps them happy. Why these fellas hang around the back end of the squad is beyond me especially if they have been there for some years. Surely they must realise they're not going to see any meaningful action and are wasting their time? You see the same names on the extended panel year in year out,different players are brought in ahead of them and still they persevere. No its not commitment its foolishness of the highest order. We'll hear the rubbish spouted about them being a big part of the squad but in reality they're skivvies. Best of luck to them I suppose, but the few that walked having seen the light are hurling much more better with their clubs as a result. Coincidence? I think not!
robopaddy2 wrote: » Was thinking as much, I heard the other Martin O'Neill (previously on panel and Munster minor winning captain in 09) had emigrated to Canada. Not sure what the situation with Foran is, last year he didn't make himself available, maybe its the same this year?
thesultan wrote: » The thing is that we had nearly 13 start every league game that were certainties to start championship. Kevin Moran and the Brick need a rest. We need to rotate fellas as was seen in the Munster final we sprang one to two with very little game time.
JesusRef wrote: » Maybe that was due to it being our first year back in the top division last year. But this year the tried and trusted need to take a back seat for the league, play a load of new guys and give them a chance to blood in
Cake Man wrote: » Could someone tell me which selector has left, is it Fintan or Dan? And why?
Deskjockey wrote: » Going by previous posts it's Fintan- no? Edit: Confirmed in the article below.http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/austin-gleeson-says-derek-mcgrath-9274941
mountgomery burns wrote: » Big loss I think, track record speaks for itself.
Cake Man wrote: » Not really sure what you mean by the above. I get what you're trying to say about a certain amount of players not getting much, if any, game time. In an ideal world, all players would get a run out and everyone would be happy but it just doesn't work like that. Every team in both codes up and down the country has players on the panel that get little to no game time, I don't think it's just specific to Waterford. As I said, it's not ideal lads turning up season after season knowing they probably won't get a look in but what can you do? Going by the post above, the only solution would literally be to cut the panel to 20 players as that way you'll have 15 starters and then (the way the game has gone these days) the 5 subs would be used which ensures everyone gets a game. That's not going to happen as we know as managers obviously need multiple options, cover for nearly every position and competition for places to keep lads on their toes. A manager will pick his best players and that usually always means the same names, I can't really see what the problem is there. Also, how else do you introduce fresh blood? Surely the most logical way is to give them a few Munster league and "dead rubber league" games. I don't see the point dropping them straight into a Munster or AI championship game (unless of course their hand is forced or the player has shown enough in training that they can come in and do a job).
cul beag wrote: » Huge loss!!!
hurler on de ditch wrote: » bar the two Kilkenny games ,i dont think any or either of them would be a great loss ,we played some of the most horrible defensive ****e i have ever seen in my life ,and it was when they had no choice but to play hurling that we might have actually achieved something ,lets not forget all those selectors stood over and coached that ****e for three years ,lets hope we never have to endure it again
tomwaterford wrote: » Though quick question.....when is waterford championship match....I've a wedding in June....don't want to miss this match eithrr
Giveitfong wrote: » Lismore 2-14 Kilmoyley 0-13 Lismore captured the Munster intermediate club hurling championship when defeating Kilmoyley with reasonable comfort at Mallow today. The game, watched by an attendance of just over 1,000, was played in dry but bitterly cold conditions on a good pitch for the time of year. Kilmoyley, the Kerry senior champions, were very much up for the game and at times showed superior commitment, especially in the first half. They were well drilled, had a good first touch and had some good hurlers, especially in the middle third of the field. However, their forwards were unable to make any impression on the Lismore defence with the outstanding exception of their centre forward, Daniel Collins, who, remarkably, got all his side’s scores (seven frees and six points from play). How they could have done with their former attacking star, Shane Brick, who only retired recently. A lot of credit must go to the Lismore defence for the way they subdued the opposition attack. I was quite impressed with their full back line of Sean Reaney, David Prendergast and Pat Hennessy, who were alert, quick and sharp. The first half was evenly contested. Kilmoyley created numerous openings which they spoiled with some bad shooting. Lismore created several goal chances but failed to put any of them away, due to a combination of poor finishing and some tenacious defending by Kilmoyley. Lismore were a bit arrogant, I thought, looking for goals when easy points were there for the taking. The score at half time was seven points each. Lismore must have got a tongue-lashing from manager Dave Barry at half time, as they were a different team in the second half. A quick point was followed by the opening goal, corner forward Peter O’Keeffe latching onto a ball which broke behind the Kilmoyley defence to finish efficiently to the net. Kilmoyley tried their best to get back into the game, but the writing was on the wall for them when Lismore goaled again in the tenth minute, Maurice Shanahan running onto Jack Prendergast’s pass to tip the ball over the Kilmoyley goalkeeper’s head into the net. Lismore were playing with more confidence now, with Kilmoyley unable to even get a sniff of the goal they desperately needed. The Cathedral Town men were happy to exchange points with their opponents, to close out the game 2-14 to 0-13 ahead. I thought that Paudie Prendergast at wing back was Lismore’s best player, and oozed class from start to finish. Centre back Ray Barry had his problems with his opposite number Collins, but still hit a lot of good ball over the hour. Maurice Shanahan roared into the game after the change of ends after a quiet first half, and ended up with 1-9, 1-2 from play. Jack Prendergast showed some flashes of this undoubted ability, and John Prendergast put in a good shift in the second half. Lismore: Seanie Barry; Sean Reaney; David Prendergast; Pat Hennessy; Paudie Prendergast; Ray Barry (0-1); Eoin Bennett; Stevie Barry; John Prendergast; Brendan Landers (0-1); Jack Prendergast (0-1); Maurice Shanahan (1-9, six frees and one 65); Jordan Shanahan; Dan Shanahan (0-1); Peter O’Keeffe (1-0). Brian Bennett and Ronan Landers came on for Jordan Shanahan and Stevie Barry. There were three further substitutions in injury time.
