akelly02 wrote: » Im sorry but there IS no doubt he is the no 1 contender, that is effectively what the interim belt is that he holds.. would it be the same story if when connor beat Mendes at 189 dana said actually no you have the interim belt but you are not next in line, you have to fight Frankie next before getting your shot at aldo...some craic in here if that happened
wonderfullife wrote: » Why doesn't he "have to go near Max"? 4 of Jose Aldo's 8 UFC wins are against 2 men. People say Conor didn't clean FW out entirely.....well Aldo sure as hell didn't either. Let him fight the winner of Max v Pettis and prove beyond doubt he's the number 1 contender. This mystique created around Aldo is amusing. Terrific fighter but people like to spin his 5 year tenure in the UFC to be something it's not and they usually try include the WEC days when he was a completely different fighter. He's 8-1 inside the UFC and half of his wins were against Frankie and Chad. He had 50 minutes to try put Frankie away and never really came close to doing so. The UFC can legitimately make Aldo v Pettis/Holloway and Khabib v Ferguson and then Conor has 2 clear number 1 contenders he MUST face if he wants to defend his straps. Nothing is 'held up' if they choose that course of action. That's 2 exciting eliminators for the number 1 contender spot.
winston82 wrote: » What I don't get is why would he scape a win over Diaz rather than defend his featherweight belt? If you are a true champion surely this is a no brainer? What's that about?
.ak wrote: » You do realize that when RDA pulled out Aldo was offered a title shot against McGregor right? He turned it down, despite the 'anytime, anywhere' brag.
finglashoop wrote: » So basically mcgregors 4 most viable opponents to trim themselves down to 2. I know your a fan of mcgregor but the tunnel vision out of yourself and some others when it comes to him is ridiculous. Personally i think for the sake of both divisons he should defend or give up featherweight and leave them all to it and fight one of khabib / ferguson. If he is going to fight woodley it should be after this. But thats using logic, which no doubt, your response wont contain
winston82 wrote: » Why is anyone fighting for an interim belt when McGregor is fit to fight??? Your thought process is all up your hole.
ASOT wrote: » He was only finished a medical suspention he was never an option realistically.
winston82 wrote: » Jesus, here comes another one.
Head Wreck wrote: » Max Holloway has more UFC featherweight victories in the last 3 years than Jose Aldo has in his whole career. Holloway is the only fighter besides Nate to last more than 2 rounds with Conor. Max deserves the shot more than anyone and I would be more interested to see him face max. He has good chin, we know aldos is extremely delicate.
wonderfullife wrote: » I just don't get why people are so opposed to seeing Khabib v Tony and Aldo v Max. Those are AMAZING fights and they both mean something. They cement one man in each division as the categorical clear contender. As i said above, when Brock was ready to return there was great debate over whether Mir or Carwin was the best contender. Frank Mir defended his Interim title against Carwin and lost. Then there was no debate and Carwin faced Brock in a unification bout less than 4 months later. What's the difference here? Not much, if any.
mdwexford wrote: » You would be wrong then. That's why nobody does it.
wonderfullife wrote: » Held up how? Max Holloway is on a 9 fight win-streak. Guess who hasn't beaten him? Jose Aldo. Conor has beaten both Aldo and Holloway. If Aldo had gone and beaten Holloway then I'd 100% agree with you. It's not "held up" when there are 2 guys with legitimate claims to be the number 1 contender.
riffmongous wrote: » What a great rebuttal that was :rolleyes: If a fighter goes up and loses he goes back to where he was, he still has his belt and everyone will give him credit for giving it a shot and if wins, he's a hero. If he defends his belt and loses he has lost everything, there is a huge risk difference there, look at McGregor and Penn, the losses didn't hurt them one bit
CurryFlavoured wrote: We don't, he's been KO'd once by one of the most powerful shots around which he also ran into.
CurryFlavoured wrote: » Sorry but I think this is silly for a couple reasons. 1. People made the exact same argument about him and Edgar, he won that fight at ufc 200. 2. That's not how finding a contender works, you don't keep making fights until the best contender comes out head and shoulders above. What if a new contender arises after Aldo fights and beats Holloway. He has to fight him then I guess? Aldo fights and beats him, then a new contender comes again. Same again? It's obviously a very unlikely hypothetical situatuon but you see my point, do we just keep putting off title shots on the basis that we don't have a 'clear contender'? Obviously not. I think they're both interesting fights, but I'd give the shot to Aldo.
CurryFlavoured wrote: » It's obviously a very unlikely hypothetical situatuon but you see my point, do we just keep putting off title shots on the basis that we don't have a 'clear contender'? Obviously not. I think they're both interesting fights, but I'd give the shot to Aldo.
weldoninhio wrote: » I watch most cards too, i like MMA as a sport. The UFC is turning it into WWE, where it doesn't matter who the best fighters are, its all about who makes the most money.
Lukker- wrote: » I think we might see Conor vs Aldo next. Ferguson vs Nate @ 209 for the next title shot at LW after Khabib. Khabib can wait until after McGregor deals with Aldo but he might be a while waiting considering he can't train during Ramadan. Might not see Khabib vs. Conor until this time next year. Will he be willing to wait without crying or making vague Dagestani threats to the UFC? Time will tell.
wonderfullife wrote: » What people seem to be missing (completely) is that the UFC regime under WME/IMG is a hybrid of sporting meritocracy and sports entertainment. Why did we have the tournament planned at MW? Why did Weidman need to fight Romero? Why did Rockhold need to fight Jacare? Surely by the logic you employed, Bisping should have just defended it immediately against Jacare or Weidman or Rockhold. Surely they could have all just sat on the sidelines and waited for a title shot, on the basis there's no need to be number 1 contender. If a clear contender is not needed, then why arrange those fights? Answer = They have an element of sporting merit (to try decide a clear contender) and they have an element of sports entertainment (to try make the UFC money putting the fights on). It's no different here. If they do it at Middleweight then why not do it at Lightweight or Featherweight. Of course, you could just make both Khabib and Ferguson sit on the sidelines and let Conor try to defend the strap against them both consecutively - but that robs the fans of amazing fights in the meantime. Likewise with Aldo. I'd much prefer he goes and beats Max/Pettis and then fights Conor than to see the Conor rematch immediately.
wonderfullife wrote: » This Khabib stuff has to stop. He was absent for 2 whole years from injury and since he returned he has stopped an unranked opponent and submitted a #7 ranked opponent. You'd swear he's been tearing through the division beating everyone. He has 2 notable UFC victories - against the then #6 ranked RDA in 2014 and now against the #7 ranked Michael Johnson. Does NOBODY find it amazing that Khabib is the #1 ranked contender in a division where he has never beaten the following names in the top 15: Ferguson Alvarez Diaz Barboza Cerrone Poirier Melendez He's ranked #1 contender in the division and has somehow skipped fighting the whole lot of them and the best win of his career was against RDA, who at the time was ranked 6th?????
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