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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

Timmaay

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

All farming sectors go through difficult periods and during such times there may need to be changes in how threads are moderated.

Dairy threads are going to be more closely monitored and subject to stricter moderation for a while.

To that end we won’t tolerate baiting of posters, constantly reviving old arguments, posters with agendas or crusading for a cause.

Whether it’s discussion of the business or politics of the dairy or other sectors, we expect civility and tolerance toward each other and other opinions as diversity of opinion is needed as a source of different ways of looking at a situation.

"The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert

Also please be aware that what you may post as light-hearted banter can be read totally differently by someone adversely affected by the subject matter and evoke a reaction you hadn’t intended.

The ‘Off-Season’ forum, and its anonymous posting, is available for anyone to chat about their situation.

The Mod Team.

10 away from the 10000 posts! Frazz I think it's fair to say this thread has been a success!

Indeed it was! First thread can be found here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056872221

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Keepgrowing

jaymla627 wrote: »

Massive earthquake is just after hitting the south Island in new Zealand, could knock about dairy farmers out their considerably, could drive on the next gdt auction nicely depending on damage to factories/roads etc, reported casualties too hopefully their isn't to much loss of life

I really don't want to be in a dairy industry that celebrates human hardship. If it comes to that for a milk price, I'm out. I hope they'll rally and recover, not long since CChurch was hit before

jaymla627

Keepgrowing wrote: »

I really don't want to be in a dairy industry that celebrates human hardship. If it comes to that for a milk price, I'm out. I hope they'll rally and recover, not long since CChurch was hit before

Wouldn't wish the above on anyone simply a observation, the sad fact is for dairy prices to get to and stay above 30c/l extreme weather events/droughts need to occur in major milk producing regions, which obviously means human hardship

Keepgrowing

jaymla627 wrote: »

Wouldn't wish the above on anyone simply a observation, the sad fact is for dairy prices to get to and stay above 30c/l extreme weather events/droughts need to occur in major milk producing regions, which obviously means human hardship

Oh yes, I get you and wasn't suggesting anything else.

kevthegaff

Will it be another swing and roundabout if prices rise again

Water John

Well the question is, are there dairy stock out there that can produce more milk with an upturn in price? Otherwise you have to wait for a breed cycle.

Mooooo

I'd say there are, may plateau in 2 years as more beef bulls used this year but there are heifers on the ground. Will have culled a good few cows this year and will still be up in numbers next year.. also with an increase in price more feed may go in. NOW people will argue whether it's worth it or not but I reckon it will make a difference. Here on 2015 I reduced my meal bill considerably on 14 and resulted in lower milk sales, this year meal bill is back up along with sales. Now a number of other factors as well but for herds like mine it does make a difference supply wise whatever about profitability

Buford T. Justice XIX

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

This is my 'Be Careful With Acid!' post.

I was doing a bit of maintenance on the autowasher on the milk tank and was trying to fix a leak in the water input line.

Turns out it was the acid input line.

Today's arm selfie, a week on.

Buford T. Justice XIX

A bit on achieving correct BCS on cows this winter.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1267464716638211&id=1161444260573591

Buford T. Justice XIX

There is a Teagasc seminar on Thursday at 11am to 1.30pm in Listowel Arms Hotel on improving your 6 week in calf rate given by Joyce Voogt from LIC.

OverRide

Just took up the fence here to let the ladies into the next bit
Gorgeous mild morning and they're happy (and so is the milker)
Ground is solid,so weather permitting,grass wise,they can stay out until about Dec 3rd or so
They've access to silage and the cubicles at night but so far each morning I've had to go out for them

Timmaay

Unannounced HSA inspection this morning. I wasn't too busy so let them on with it, took about 1/2 an hr, very practical chap and actually gave afew helpful pointers. No major issues here which is what I expected, list of minor enough things to fix for him. On the safety statement which I'd filled out from the bord bia inspection I made the point that it was really only a tick the box excercise to pass it back then, and he fully agreed that there is wayy too much duplication with all the organizations. At least something useful can come out of a visit like today (death rate on farms is wayy too high), against tick the boxes with board bia.

Signpost

Kerry are at a similar exercise to the Glanbia one last week. At least they only want 1 page of information but like I said before its too subjective without knowing how milk price will be.
I know a farm nearby is going to be sold next year but will it be worth buying it on sub 30c p/l and potentially trebling production by taking dry stock off home block and drawing in silage? Probably not. If it was going to be 30+ for next 5 years I'd be taking on new block without seconds thought!

alps

jaymla627 wrote: »

Massive earthquake is just after hitting the south Island in new Zealand, could knock about dairy farmers out their considerably, could drive on the next gdt auction nicely depending on damage to factories/roads etc, reported casualties too hopefully their isn't to much loss of life

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/agribusiness/86419958/north-canterbury-farmers-wake-up-to-quake-toll

This is extremely traumatising for all involved....your heart would go out to them. Luckily, so far death count is low, but can you imagine the farming hit with rotaries knocked off their tracks, bridges down and whole communities like kaikoura looking like being cut off for weeks.

The farmers didn't need this at the end of 2 years bad prices.

GrasstoMilk

alps wrote: »

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/agribusiness/86419958/north-canterbury-farmers-wake-up-to-quake-toll

This is extremely traumatising for all involved....your heart would go out to them. Luckily, so far death count is low, but can you imagine the farming hit with rotaries knocked off their tracks, bridges down and whole communities like kaikoura looking like being cut off for weeks.

The farmers didn't need this at the end of 2 years bad prices.

100% agree. Chatting to a mate last night, he was out there 4 years ago and remembers being told that the last earthquake knocked a lot of rotarys off there Tracks and it took over a month to get a lot sorted. A lot of farmers had to walk cows OAD to a neighbouring herringbone to get them milk. It'll hit there milk production a lot never mind milk tankers not being able to get to farms with the state of the roads

pedigree 6

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

100% agree. Chatting to a mate last night, he was out there 4 years ago and remembers being told that the last earthquake knocked a lot of rotarys off there Tracks and it took over a month to get a lot sorted. A lot of farmers had to walk cows OAD to a neighbouring herringbone to get them milk. It'll hit there milk production a lot never mind milk tankers not being able to get to farms with the state of the roads

If they come off their tracks, how do they get them fixed again?
Do they have to take the roof off and get in a crane?

Water John

Their milk processing plants are supposed to be earthquake proof TMK.

GrasstoMilk

pedigree 6 wrote: »

If they come off their tracks, how do they get them fixed again?
Do they have to take the roof off and get in a crane?

Take off the galvanise and get in a crane he said. With the way roads are looking out there it could be a while before most are fixed

visatorro

20% barley,
17%maize
15% distillers dried grains
11% maize gluten
11% soya hulls
Cane molasses
Bean meal
Mineral and vets

238 euro. Works out at 16% protein on docket. What does anyone think?

degetme

Bad day today. First Cow this year down this morning in shed. Only dried off a few days. Back is ****ed we think. She's out in paddock now. Crack in tractor loader now aswell to make matters worse. This farming would drive one mad

farisfat

The milk cheque will come next week and sórt all those problems out.

freedominacup

visatorro wrote: »

20% barley,
17%maize
15% distillers dried grains
11% maize gluten
11% soya hulls
Cane molasses
Bean meal
Mineral and vets

238 euro. Works out at 16% protein on docket. What does anyone think?

There seems to be 30+% missing?????

visatorro

visatorro wrote: »

20% barley,
17%maize
15% distillers dried grains
11% maize gluten
11% soya hulls
Cane molasses
Bean meal
Mineral and vets

238 euro. Works out at 16% protein on docket. What does anyone think?

Molasses 8%
Beans 10%
Bean meal 4.5%.

That's all the ingredients anyway.

Mooooo

visatorro wrote: »

Molasses 8%
Beans 10%
Bean meal 4.5%.

That's all the ingredients anyway.

With molasses that high it could be a bit of bother if it sticks in the bin

visatorro

Mooooo wrote: »

With molasses that high it could be a bit of bother if it sticks in the bin

It's a nut.

freedominacup

visatorro wrote: »

Molasses 8%
Beans 10%
Bean meal 4.5%.

That's all the ingredients anyway.

I wouldn't be keen on maize gluten but there'll definitely be worse rations out there. What's bean meal?

pedigree 6

Sold a cull cow not in calf was dry for a month and was lame when I dried her off to make it worse,but got her hoof paired and shoe on at the time. Not lame now and was getting a bit of rolled barley in the field. Sold in the Mart today for 930 weighed 760.
Also sold a heifer born end of Jan last year not in calf twin to a bull no meal weighed 570 sold for 985.

With the price of cattle atm, happy enough.

Wildsurfer

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas what material to use to sheet off glass jars and pumps at end of pit to stop them getting dirty by cows exiting. Was thinking maybe stokboard but has anyone used some sort of aluminium plate or anything that would look better?

Buford T. Justice XIX

Collection day here today, 2 different collections already and the tank still half full. I was hoping to be finished earlier this evening as there is a funeral I should go to but it's not looking good atm.

PS. This is why I hate contract drivers collecting, all day here and still haven't collected all the milk.

Grrrrr!

Keepgrowing

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Collection day here today, 2 different collections already and the tank still half full. I was hoping to be finished earlier this evening as there is a funeral I should go to but it's not looking good atm.

PS. This is why I hate contract drivers collecting, all day here and still haven't collected all the milk.

Grrrrr!

If that happens here we just milk away, someone else's problem

visatorro

freedominacup wrote: »

I wouldn't be keen on maize gluten but there'll definitely be worse rations out there. What's bean meal?

It's not really value so. I'll have to find out what the bean meal is!
What exactly is gluten?