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El Presidente Trump

Kermit.de.frog

It's happened folks. You are only waking up but it has happened. A genuine unstable idiot has become president of the US.

I will be asleep as you wake. But I will wake too and I will also think of the consequences and wonder is it a dream:eek:

It's not a dream.

It's real.

F**k

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Manic Moran wrote: »

On further other matters, stock in firearms manufacturers have dropped about ten percent. Caterpillar (Construction equipment) up 7%.

Was watching a market analyst on KRON4 this morning (SF Bay area news station). It was weird. He was obviously unhappy that Trump won, had a negative tone about everything, but everything he was saying was positive. "OK, the futures collapsed, but when the markets opened today, they were slightly stronger than yesterday, the market is holding. We can expect a recession, but that was going to happen regardless of who won, they're usually on 4-8 year cycles, and so we're overdue. Expect the lower corporate tax rate to be beneficial to US-based company growth, and there will be big investment into infrastructure." I'm trying to see the bad part in the market assessment he was giving to match the tone of his voice.

5-7 Live on RTE this evening were discussing CRH. Back in the day, I believe they had a 25% share in the company that built the wall dividing the West Bank from Israel. (Link below)- I believe they have since sold those shares.

Construction shares have increased, gun manufacturers are down due to less pressure on the chances of restricting guns, IT shares down slightly, Pharma shares up (due to less pressure on laws around price restrictions).

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/crh-may-sell-stake-in-controversial-israeli-company-30116397.html

railer201

This WW3 talk reminds me of the final scene from Dr.Strangelove -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcW_Ygs6hm0

[Deleted User]

Manic Moran wrote: »

I disagree, and refer to my earlier post on this thread.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=101613112&postcount=1459

That's a terrible argument.

"Why would a politician ever bother with sparse old Indiana"

Er, Hillary barely bothered with Indiana.

How did her Kentucky rally go? About as good as Trump's campaign in Massachusetts I'd say.

Politicians already ignore certain states, for all intents and purposes. Whatever campaign there is for Hillary in Alaska is run by local obsessives.

tomwaterford

Fair fcuks to him

Funny AF this is......now whens this wall starting

ligerdub

Duck Soup wrote: »

There is one aspect of an upcoming Trump presidency that already concerns me. Trump has given the impression to Russia that, well, you leave us alone and we'll leave you alone. Asked what his response to further Russian aggression in the Ukraine would be, he said "As far as the Ukraine is concerned, we have a group of people, and a group of countries, including Germany - why are we always doing the work? I'm all for protecting Ukraine - but, we have countries that are surrounding the Ukraine that aren't doing anything. They say, "Keep going, keep going, you dummies, keep going. Protect us." And we have to get smart. We can't continue to be the policeman of the world."

So he's saying if Russia gets nasty with it's neighbours, he'll leave it up to European nations to sort it out. I can't believe for the life of me that Putin won't test the limits to US quasi-neutrality in the region to its fullest extent.

I don't see any problem with that. You are insisting a nation involve itself with issues that don't concern them and are thousands of miles away. Donald's reasoning is entirely sound.

Herb Powell

paleoperson wrote: »

It's just made-up nonsense. The guys on places like this believe it because it's what they see on CNN and Sky News etc., hilariously thinking THEY'RE the smart ones and Trump supporters are dumb.

It's the exact same with Putin. Putin has never been anti-LGBT, never been anti-homosexual, never been belligerent. There was a law passed to not advertise homosexual activity to minors, that's about as "anti-LGBT" as Russia or Putin has ever gotten.

The real joke is how they think they're clever and informed by lapping it up.

Yeah, just pretend homosexuality doesn't exist and that it's perfectly ok, there's no possible way that could ever hurt anyone or lead to trouble............

lawlolawl

"Gee, i wonder why people didn't vote for Hillary"

tomwaterford

Herb Powell wrote: »

Yeah, just pretend homosexuality doesn't exist and that it's perfectly ok, there's no possible way that could ever hurt anyone or lead to trouble............

There's nothing wrong with being gay...like yanno

[Deleted User]

According to RTÉ Clinton actually won more of the popular vote than Trump. Astounding.

God bless America and its understanding of democracy.

gctest50

tomwaterford wrote: »

Fair fcuks to him

T AF this is......now whens this wall starting

Be a bit of work for us yet - Roadstone did a fine job in Palestine

Them Mexicans won't be knocking Irish concrete too handy

Herb Powell

tomwaterford wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with being gay...like yanno

Absolutely nothing wrong with it. I am saying it's an absolute fuccking joke to imply that there is not a problem with homphobia in Putin's Russia.

osarusan

I wonder why more states don't have a system where electoral college votes can be split based on the % of votes in each state.

If you get 60% of the vote, you get 60% of the EC votes (with the overall number of EC votes being proportional to the population of the state. I appreciate that the maths isn't easy with states that have only 3 or 4 EC votes, but it could be approximated, and would seem more fair to me at least.

It seems strange that in a state like Florida with the vote evenly split, all the EC votes go one way. Likewise in California, Trump got 33% of the vote - why not give him 33% of the EC votes.

That way you still completely ignore a state at your peril, but it would more closely reflect the voting in each state at the end.

I don't know whether this would help one party more than the other in general, or if it has been discussed before either.

Permabear

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Everyone seemed very reasonable and measured in the speeches they gave today. Stark contrast to how things were in the campaign

Trump vowing to be a president 'for all Americans', and promising to unite the country etc. Why he couldn't have conducted himself in such a way before today is baffling.

I guess he wouldn't have appealed as much to the mouth-breathing idiots and racists who don't actually want to see the US or its citizens more united.

Anyhoo, I don't think having him as president will be as disastrous as some suggest. Unless he goes back to his pre-election rhetoric, which tbh I don't see happening now that he has his foot in the door.

tomwaterford

gctest50 wrote: »

Be a bit of work for us yet - Roadstone did a fine job in Palestine

Them Mexicans won't be knocking Irish concrete too handy

Seemingly the Mexicans are building it for him

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Permabear wrote: »

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So what that it's not the first time!

The next time the State legislates to levy a deeply unfair tax on commercial activity, or the next time the State wants to listen to your telephone calls, or the next time it wants to regulate a family's access to abortion, you as a libertarian will no doubt sigh into your pint and say "but this has happened before. So what?"

retro:electro

lawlolawl wrote: »

"Gee, i wonder why people didn't vote for Hillary"

In fairness that's donkeys years old

Depp

anna080 wrote: »

In fairness that's donkeys years old

only a year before trump was recorded without his knowledge on a bus! why is it only now that a clip is irrelevant because of its age?

20Cent

Depp wrote: »

only a year before trump was recorded without his knowledge on a bus! why is it only now that a clip is irrelevant because of its age?

People change their minds. It's actually a good thing.

A Dub in Glasgo

https://twitter.com/IamDeeMerlon/status/796304782042525696

Poor Uncle Tom

lawlolawl wrote: »

"Gee, i wonder why people didn't vote for Hillary"

Did nobody learn from the 'BoatymacBoatface' debacle, you shouldn't can't trust the public to vote for anything.....

Depp

trump says something misogynistic in 2005-hes a sexual predator, he will never change
clinton says something homophobic in 2004-thats ages ago, people change like

oh the irony!

ligerdub

Depp wrote: »

only a year before trump was recorded without his knowledge on a bus! why is it only now that a clip is irrelevant because of its age?

Because she likes Hillary and dislikes Donald.

retro:electro

ligerdub wrote: »

Because she likes Hillary and dislikes Donald.

I actually dislike both of them to be honest. To me it was like deciding whether or you'd like to die of a heart attack or die of a stroke.

lawlolawl

20Cent wrote: »

People change their minds. It's actually a good thing.

Nah, she just a bull****ter who'll say anything just to appear "right on".

Her talking about the sanctity of marriage after she stayed with her husband who lied to the nation about being bollocks deep in an intern in the Oval Office is another layer of hypocrisy.

Lackey

wonderfullife wrote: »

Ah now. They absolutely have a responsibility after absolutely fcuking up Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.

You can't just stroll over to these places over 30 years playing games, resulting in the loss of millions of lives, then leg it .

I see your point but you can't give out about their interference then give out when they say they'll leave.
It has to end sometime.
Seems to me they can't do right no matter what they do.

TheOven

lawlolawl wrote: »

"Gee, i wonder why people didn't vote for Hillary"

http://time.com/4401600/gop-platform-contemplates-anti-porn-provision-embrace-of-conversion-therapy/

People aren't honestly trying to pretend gay people are better off with Trump than Clinton.

retro:electro

Depp wrote: »

trump says something misogynistic in 2005-hes a sexual predator, he will never change
clinton says something homophobic in 2004-thats ages ago, people change like

oh the irony!

So she changed her mind on a policy, it happens and I'd hardly call her attitude there homophobic.
Trump has proven over and over again that he's a sexist pig. But sure look, he's now the President of America so obviously his clip was not that relevant after all

Depp

anna080 wrote: »

So she changed her mind on a policy, it happens and I'd hardly call her attitude there homophobic.
Trump has proven over and over again that he's a sexist pig. But sure look, he's now the President of America so obviously his clip was not that relevant after all

the entire speech is her defending the sanctity of marriage being between a man and a woman in an arguement against gay marriage...thats kind of textbook homophobia isnt it?

tomwaterford

Depp wrote: »

the entire speech is her defending the sanctity of marriage being between a man and a woman in an arguement against gay marriage...thats kind of textbook homophobia isnt it?

Is homophobia not an irrational fear/hate of the gays?