kowtow wrote: do you need anything special for the capacity from the pump to the parlour or is it just the single unit?
kowtow wrote: Are they expensive? A few hundred or so plus a bulb each year?
jaymla627 wrote: » Hopefully lads don't lose the run of themselves and put in fairly optimistic projections our you'll see Bergin/Talbot reckon they need to invest another small fortune in processing and we'll be the clowns left footing the bill
Timmaay wrote: » I wouldnt like to see what sh1te I put down on mine back in 2013 or whenever the last one was, I was in utter dream land, thinking I'd double milk output within 2 or 3yrs etc ha.
Water John wrote: » The one done for DG in 2012 is still hanging around the necks of their farmers. Inthepit, your replies after a feed of pints should be interesting. Please copy here!!!
whelan2 wrote: » So did all ye Glanbia suppliers get your milk planning census 2017-2020? I'd say there will be some interesting comments on page 7. I am only filling in a few bits of it as I dont agree with the way the farmer has been treated this last 12 months. Also they are looking for way too much information in some parts of it.
Mooooo wrote: » 7 pages? ours is one page, a couple of lines really
wats the craic wrote: » glanbia always try their best to confuse and annoy their farmers
whelan2 wrote: » Its actually 8 pages, interesting as the first msa will be up before the period of the census ends
jaymla627 wrote: » It's unreal how intrusive the survey is, they basically want to know every facet of your plans going forward and basically get a insight into how much milk you'll produce even if they are paying a crap price, my one will be " sent in " but I reckon the f**s in an post will misplace it a haha[/quote Seems far too detailed for what they really need - which is a clear picture of how much peak processing capacity will be needed in next few yrs. If they don't build enough we'll be hit with peak penalties or B pricing like U.K. and elsewhere. Build too much and we are left to foot the bill. Hopefully a large number of suppliers give their best estimate on that piece - how many cows you likely to milk in 2/3 years time. PS would love to know why there's a question on zero grazers!?!
Bullocks wrote: » Will you get rid or bull her again , she would be getting a one way ticket here
Fixture wrote: » jaymla627 wrote: » It's unreal how intrusive the survey is, they basically want to know every facet of your plans going forward and basically get a insight into how much milk you'll produce even if they are paying a crap price, my one will be " sent in " but I reckon the f**s in an post will misplace it a haha[/quote Seems far too detailed for what they really need - which is a clear picture of how much peak processing capacity will be needed in next few yrs. If they don't build enough we'll be hit with peak penalties or B pricing like U.K. and elsewhere. Build too much and we are left to foot the bill. Hopefully a large number of suppliers give their best estimate on that piece - how many cows you likely to milk in 2/3 years time. PS would love to know why there's a question on zero grazers!?! To be fair they did try to introduce the seasonality pricing where suppliers who went over 16% of their annual supply in the may/June months where penalised and this was ment to go into a pot that payed out winter bonuses if you qualified....it was shot down and rightly so at the time as milk quotas where at play but present day theirs noting stopping them re-introducing the above
Water John wrote: » There is no shortage nor will there be of capacity in this country for many years.
Water John wrote: » Every processor doesn't need peak capacity and spare. From a national point of view and farmers, wholly inefficient. Willy waving by managements. Cooperation, gradual rolling capital investment between processors.
Fixture wrote: » You are right that no every processor needs spare capacity at peak but how much spare capacity was available in Ireland this year and where was it? Not much as far as I'm aware. And that was after crap April weather that affected peak cow yield. One of the best dairy processors in the world Friesland Campina had to pay farmers 2cpl this year to curb supply as they had no capacity for the growth surge.
Water John wrote: » My understanding was that the two large new plants in Bellview and Mallow when working at full capacity can cater for expansion to 2020. Again, as per West Cork. it is relatively cheap to have a second hand drier, which is what you do with peak, for small money.
jaymla627 wrote: It's pretty simple, glanbia and all the other co-ops can simply start to pay worthwhile bonuses for autumn/winter milk that will help level the supply profile our go drop another couple of 100 million on fancy dryers that churn out smp/wmp that will be dumped on the commodity market our end up in intervention.... Unfortunately the current mindset of having everything calving in the spring and 90% calved in 6 weeks as per the teagasc handbook along with lots of grass and no meal "that's a big no no" mean on the vast majority of dairy farms will churn out 70% of their milk supply from April to August and in between you have milk lorries driving the country trying to gather up a load and factories on the go-slow
jaymla627 wrote: in between you have milk lorries driving the country trying to gather up a load and factories on the go-slow
