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El Presidente Trump

Kermit.de.frog

It's happened folks. You are only waking up but it has happened. A genuine unstable idiot has become president of the US.

I will be asleep as you wake. But I will wake too and I will also think of the consequences and wonder is it a dream:eek:

It's not a dream.

It's real.

F**k

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ligerdub

Well well well......what a glorious day this is! I seriously couldn't be happier with this result, it's a vindication for the quite frankly excessive interest I've held in this contest, and being firmly in camp Donald since before we won the Republican primary. It was a full year ago when I started to believe that he would win, and in the end with a bit more conviction than I thought.

It's also nice to see a bit of retribution given back to those who twisted his words, threw ridiculously untrue accusations at him, and indulged in a weak grievance culture to build up the case for his opponent. Thankfully the US voting public didn't fall for this nonsense, and have voted for the right candidate.

It has been a fairly lonely place being a Trump sympathiser in this country this last while. Let me tell you Clinton sympathisers something, it doesn't fell good being accused of being a racist, sexist, bigot (which by association is implied in comments about Trump), so to me it seemed pretty clear who was the real harbour-er of hatred.

The smugness in the political pundits on RTE in the early coverage last night was incredible. They were practically making plans for an early end to proceedings and joking about the early night they were going to have. They had a good old laugh about it. Well they weren't laughing a couple of hours later, it was like a wake in there. When the tide had turned there the comments started to take a more sinister accusatory tone, the usual baseless platitudes. I see the usual social media blaze up when something doesn't go the way of liberal sorts, but that's to be expected, and to be honest make it even better.

All hail President Trump!!

Deise Vu

I'm searching for a silver lining here and I'm struggling. Maybe The Duck won't be as bad as he came across in the campaign. Maybe he is the cleverest man alive and he realised the only way a Billionaire could convince the poor he was a man of the people was to approach the election with the rhetoric of a pub bore after 10 pints and a couple of chasers. Now that he is in, maybe he will have a load of positive ideas to boost trade and employment.

Nah, I don't buy it either.

Possibly, now that the Brits and the Yanks have fallen for snakeoil salesmen we should join in. If Enda called a snap election and we voted Gerry for Taoiseach, Richard Boyd Barrett as Tánaiste and Mick Wallace as Finance Minister we could just get all the crap out of the way in about four years. Waiting for the Duck to break the world, the Brits to break Europe and then, after all that grief, for the loony left to break Ireland will give us 20 years of hardship. Lets get it over with now, I say.

Its not much of a silver lining but its the best I can do. Just be grateful we are not the Baltic states. I would imagine Putin is already hearing the crys of oppression from their Russian minorities. This will become ever shriller if Europe refuses to pay 10's of Billions to keep the US Army in Europe when the Duck sends the renewal invoice with an extra few zeros on the end.

Burial.

Jericho Caine wrote: »

I want a horse tip, c'mon Mystic Meg, lets go.

Na the last horse that was tipped to win lost to a guy with fake tan.

AnGaelach

CruelCoin wrote: »

Nothing changed in the last 8 years because the president was staring down the barrel of a republican senate and congress.

Now that the republicans have control of all 3 executive branches, we're going to see legislation rammed through!

Good. Finally.

Even with Trump putting a Republican on the Supreme Court, I can't see things changing that drastically - Trump faces Republican opposition as well as Democratic opposition, and the Supreme Court should remain relatively unbiased (the gay marriage legalisation came before Scalia's death).

NI24

Depp wrote: »

so women are sexist to women now aswel, jaysus yee have it rough!:rolleyes:

Of course they are. And men are sexist towards other men as well. And that sexism towards women is the main reason why a woman has not been voted as president or even vice president. If you want to delude yourself that sexism doesn't impact the voting statistics then do so, but you're not going to fool a woman who has lived in this country her whole life, and has lived in a conservative state her whole life as well.

ricero

Will trump legalize the weed ?

beach_walker

CruelCoin wrote: »

Why does it matter if they leave or not?

Because it's funny to see the rich and the famous claw back on these nonsense promises. Remember Ray D'Arcy saying he'd be gone if Enda got in?

BoatMad

AnGaelach wrote: »

He has 51% of the white female vote or something (with an enormous lead in with white men), I think only like 30% of white men voted for Clinton.

White women made up 37 percent of voters
53 percent of them voted Trump
43 percent voted Clinton

quite incredible

ligerdub

That walk out with his family was spectacular, what a moment.

NI24

AnGaelach wrote: »

He has 51% of the white female vote or something (with an enormous lead in with white men), I think only like 30% of white men voted for Clinton.

Uh huh. And the other women in the US? You know, the ones who aren't white?

BoatMad

in my view Trump, will be a reasonable president, he not a fool and he has little moral compass ( i dont like moralists )

Pence is much more dangerous

Lt Dan

NI24 wrote: »

Sorry didn't mean to go off on you specifically. But the Trump ass licking that goes on around here is mind boggling.

Jesus H Christ. You are getting fierce homo erotic at this hour of the morning.

NI24

Lt Dan wrote: »

Jesus H Christ. You are getting fierce homo erotic at this hour of the morning.

You have me confused with the ones defending Trump. Despite the fact that they're not even American.

Hank Scorpio

Poor Cher, she was a great shill for Clinton tonight. When she seen Trump was winning she ran out of the room as fast as her legs could carry her.

People calling Trump supporters racist, you are out of reality and brainwashed by the mainstream media. He's said some stupid things, but he has a connection with people, something that someone like Clinton and her fakeness can never have. She is merely a puppet using the media preying on the minority groups and trying to get Woman to vote for her because Trump is 'a sexual predator'. 50% of Woman voted for Trump tonight.

On reddit's Trump site, Blacks, Mexicans, Hispanics have been taking selfies all day with Trump vote cards and posting them there calling themselves deplorables. It was never about race, it was about the average working class taking a stand against the elite and showing them talking down to them only makes them stronger. Trump supporters aren't racist, they are real. Not one single racist comment has been said on that forum since it opened. Trump says it how it is without the PC crap that has diseased modern culture and people love him for it.

Trump had everything against him, the establishment, the bankers, the media, his own party to an extent. And he still won in a landslide. Most people don't read Wikileaks, or perhaps even know what it is. For those who don't, the mainstream have been working in cahoots with the DNC, planting racist stories for CNN and NBC to publish, to publish made up stories linking Trump with Russia, to make him look like a racist, to pretend only redneck write men will ever .vote for Trump. It goes on and on, so I'd suggest anyone calling Trump the next hitler to go and do your research.

America made the right choice and I can see sleep easy after following this all night. Go read wikileaks, do your own research and don't be a puppet for them any longer.

Lt Dan

NI24 wrote: »

Uh huh. And the other women in the US? You know, the ones who aren't white?

Who cares about them? They clearly did not get their message out there strong enough

A majority voted in Favour of Trump. Their racial and gender background is not relevant (well, it should not be - but it is )

valoren

ligerdub wrote: »

it doesn't fell good being accused of being a racist, sexist, bigot (which by association is implied in comments about Trump), so to me it seemed pretty clear who was the real harbour-er of hatred.

And thus begins the cult of Trump?
That he is infallible? Can say what he wants? Do as he pleases?
And if you have the temerity to call bull**** on blatantly outrageous carry on, then it's actually you who is the problem, the hateful one, the bully, they're brainwashed by the 'media'? That's dangerous ground. Bullies invariably twist their own toxic behaviour on those who question it. Trump strikes me as the ultimate cry bully. There were legitimate concerns about his temperament. Imagine him in a situation similar to the cuban missile crisis. Makes you shudder thinking about it.

Gringo180

abff wrote: »

First Brexit, now Trump. Another victory for the politics of hate. It's a sad, misguided world we're living in.

I think people are fed up with the status quo of modern day politicians who look after the elite few instead of the working class people. You could of said the same statement above if Clinton won. She is nothing but rotten and is a warmonger. I am no fan of Trump either by the way. This all smacks of protest votes with people fed up with how there governments are being run.

ligerdub

The bitterness only makes it more enjoyable.

fizzypish

Lt Dan wrote: »

Jesus H Christ. You are getting fierce homo erotic at this hour of the morning.

I know. Tis great. I'm gonna shave myself bald, by a ****ty toupee, cover myself in orange fake tan and have the missus peg me tonight.

dav3

ligerdub wrote: »

Well well well......what a glorious day this is! I seriously couldn't be happier with this result, it's a vindication for the quite frankly excessive interest I've held in this contest, and being firmly in camp Donald since before we won the Republican primary.

Who is we?

AnGaelach

Deise Vu wrote: »

I'm searching for a silver lining here and I'm struggling. Maybe The Duck won't be as bad as he came across in the campaign. Maybe he is the cleverest man alive and he realised the only way a Billionaire could convince the poor he was a man of the people was to approach the election with the rhetoric of a pub bore after 10 pints and a couple of chasers. Now that he is in, maybe he will have a load of positive ideas to boost trade and employment.

Nah, I don't buy it either.

Possibly, now that the Brits and the Yanks have fallen for snakeoil salesmen we should join in. If Enda called a snap election and we voted Gerry for Taoiseach, Richard Boyd Barrett as Tánaiste and Mick Wallace as Finance Minister we could just get all the crap out of the way in about four years. Waiting for the Duck to break the world, the Brits to break Europe and then, after all that grief, for the loony left to break Ireland will give us 20 years of hardship. Lets get it over with now, I say.

Its not much of a silver lining but its the best I can do. Just be grateful we are not the Baltic states. I would imagine Putin is already hearing the crys of oppression from their Russian minorities. This will become ever shriller if Europe refuses to pay 10's of Billions to keep the US Army in Europe when the Duck sends the renewal invoice with an extra few zeros on the end.

I have an obvious Conservative bias on this, but I'll give you a few silver linings that I personally see.

1. European countries are going to see their defence forces (which have been sorely dilapidated) continue on the path of actually being capable of being called defence forces.
2. NATO isn't going to start any more interventions, I can't see Trump calling for an open invasion of Iran - once ISIS is done, he'll probably use economic clout to draw concessions, and let the Turkish-Saudi axis contend with the Iranian axis. China has also said they believe Trump is more focused on economic policy than military confrontation (still, with a Republican Congress/Senate, China isn't able to try and strong-arm results). China (and Russia) will know exactly where they stand since (unlike Obama) it's going to be a strong Executive office.
3. We'll probably see an economic boom (fuelled mostly by deficit spending in the US), and oil prices probably won't go up that high since US shale is incredibly resilient and has low break even points.
4. We're seeing a rollback of parties giving up the centre-ground. Previously, you had political parties shifting left to win votes. With the Brexit and Trump upset votes (and we've to remain to see what the Austrian outcome will be), parties will begin moving back to the centre to ward off any more hard-right growth.

The downside is Eurosceptic groups coming to the fore, and the possibility of further fractions between the left and right a few years down the line, but I don't think we're going to see another civil war, like some people proclaim in hyperbole.

Dick phelan

I find it baffling how people suggest a Billionaire with Trumps background can possibly represent the working class? Trump is just as big an elitist as Clinton he will do what's best for big business not for ordinary people, tbf Clinton would have done the exact same.

NI24

Lt Dan wrote: »

Who cares about them? They clearly did not get their message out there strong enough

A majority voted in Favour of Trump. Their racial and gender background is not relevant (well, it should not be - but it is )

It's hard to be a majority when you're a minority. I'd like to see the stats for the "50% of women" voting for Trump. Including those minority women we "shouldn't care about".

ligerdub

valoren wrote: »

And thus begins the cult of Trump?
That he is infallible? Can say what he wants? Do as he pleases?
And if you have the temerity to call bull**** on blatantly outrageous carry on, then it's actually you who is the problem, the hateful one, the bully? That's dangerous ground. Bullies invariably twist their own toxic behaviour on those who question it. Trump strikes me as the ultimate cry baby. There were legitimate concerns about his temperament. Imagine him in a situation similar to the cuban missile crisis. Makes you shudder thinking about it.

I really don't care anymore, the vindication has happened. I stopped reading your post after line 1.

I'm quite frankly sick and tired of the funny looks and accusations Trump sympathisers receive. I always found it to be bogus and phoney, and I no longer have to listen to the various putdowns. The victory is in the books.

Lt Dan

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Why isn't anyone asking the important question?

Did the South Park boys get tonight's episode right?

I think they did. They have been pretty on the spot (as often is the case) for a while now. Time to F them all to death

ligerdub

dav3 wrote: »

Who is we?

We is a typo.

AnGaelach

NI24 wrote: »

Uh huh. And the other women in the US? You know, the ones who aren't white?

Well obviously they were heavily anti-Trump, but I'm not sure if they've turned out the vote (as historically they haven't) so we won't know how many women actually supported him in the elections.

Boggy Turf

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Trump supporters aren't racist, they are real. Not one single racist comment has been said on that forum since it opened.

Firstly I have to say that the reaction to Trump's victory has been way over the top. The world will keep turning and I don't think we'll even notice.

However many of his supporters are racist.

http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004533191/unfiltered-voices-from-donald-trumps-crowds.html

NI24

ligerdub wrote: »

I really don't care anymore, the vindication has happened. I stopped reading your post after line 1.

I'm quite frankly sick and tired of the funny looks and accusations Trump sympathisers receive. I always found it to be bogus and phoney, and I no longer have to listen to the various putdowns. The victory is in the books.

If you have no interest in what he said then why are you in a discussion forum? Oh right, you're a Trump supporter, that's why.

9or10

Made a note in my diary. Simply said:

Bugger