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El Presidente Trump

Kermit.de.frog

It's happened folks. You are only waking up but it has happened. A genuine unstable idiot has become president of the US.

I will be asleep as you wake. But I will wake too and I will also think of the consequences and wonder is it a dream:eek:

It's not a dream.

It's real.

F**k

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Chuchote

Elites? You think Donald Trump, a man who has preserved some of the billions he inherited, is your protection against 'elites'?

[Deleted User]

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

The elites will sneer & mock, but they have been rattled.

Indeed, people are fed up of politicians who only say what their PR advisors tell them to say (aka Cameron).

A politician who says what they think themselves, without checking with their advisors (aka vested interests) is a breath of fresh air.

AllGunsBlazing

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

gormdubhgorm

Patww79 wrote: »

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Turtwig

This Brexit comparison makes little sense. If the vote was anti establishment you wouldn't really expect a majority for both house and Senate to be Republican. That's like saying you're going to give two fingers to system but instead you unhook the tethers and let the beast you resent roam free with full autonomy.

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Patww79 wrote: »

My facebook is in complete meltdown. Now I have followed shag all of this, but why exactly does it matter so much to non-Americans or is it just fashionable or something to watch like a sport? I cannot fathom why all the social media crying is going on for an election in another country.

If you can't imagine then there's probably not much point explaining.

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Indeed, people are fed up of politicians who only say what their PR advisors tell them to say (aka Cameron).

A politician who says what they think themselves, without checking with their advisors (aka vested interests) is a breath of fresh air.

As long as it's coherent,not racist,sexist or bat**** crazy.

padd b1975

NIMAN wrote: »

You think likes of Intel are just going to up sticks and move back to the US? They going to just put that huge building they pumped billions into on the back of a low loader?

If they can recoup their investment by relocating to a cheaper environment, they'll be gone pretty much overnight.

It's what Dell did.

listermint

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Like Brexit. The elites will spit feathers.

There is a slight.... slight chance they will learn from this.

People were tired of the status-quo.

Remember, the fringes do better when the center fails..... And it has failed.

Donny will serve 4 years and may well lose reelection, if he bothers to run.
But both the GOP and Dems need to take stock and start listening to people instead of sneering with contempt.

Political revolution can be a good thing & shouldn't necessarily be feared, whether it's britain, Greece, Spain or the US.

The elites will sneer & mock, but they have been rattled.

What Fringes in Greece and Spain are doing well?

Any people from Spain I know have had to move to Ireland for jobs in their absolute thousands.

So praytell how this is a good thing for Irish employment specifically.

Because it looks like ramblings like that lad on the journal wally.

[Deleted User]

Turtwig wrote: »

This Brexit comparison makes little sense. If the vote was anti establishment you wouldn't really expect a majority for both house and Senate to be Republican. That's like saying you're going to give two fingers to system but instead you unhook the tethers keeping and the let the beast you resent roam free with full autonomy.

It's people lashing out like children that's the proper Brexit comparison.

Your Face

Patww79 wrote: »

My facebook is in complete meltdown. Now I have followed shag all of this, but why exactly does it matter so much to non-Americans or is it just fashionable or something to watch like a sport? I cannot fathom why all the social media crying is going on for an election in another country.

Its fashionable, simple as that.

TheOven

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Like Brexit. The elites will spit feathers.

There is a slight.... slight chance they will learn from this.

People were tired of the status-quo.

Remember, the fringes do better when the center fails..... And it has failed.

Donny will serve 4 years and may well lose reelection, if he bothers to run.
But both the GOP and Dems need to take stock and start listening to people instead of sneering with contempt.

Political revolution can be a good thing & shouldn't necessarily be feared, whether it's britain, Greece, Spain or the US.

The elites will sneer & mock, but they have been rattled.

The elites will be fine. They can move wherever they want, any visa or costs taken care of, they will have republicans backing them which will do what is best for making a profit.

NIMAN

People on FB just like to join in on collective outrage.....its the social media thing to do.

Most have no idea what they are usually getting outraged about.

BoJack Horseman

listermint wrote: »

What Fringes in Greece and Spain are doing well? .

Something something.... Alexi tsipras?

listermint

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Something something.... Alexi tsipras?

So basically none.

BoJack Horseman

listermint wrote: »

So basically none.

Basically he's the PM

Back to your Ovaltine Lister, pretend this isn't happening.
Give it a few hours & try not to be a beligerant prick all your life!

Mod-Banned

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padd b1975 wrote: »

If they can recoup their investment by relocating to a cheaper environment, they'll be gone pretty much overnight.

It's what Dell did.

They and the likes of Apple are going to repatriate their massive retained profits pretty much immediately. Then they will either pay them out in dividends or else invest by building facilities in the US.

SEPT 23 1989

Top story is about the reaction of "the markets"

That's exactly why he will be elected

People are sick of it

Chuchote

Why does it matter? Why do the markets matter?

Investors lend their money to businesses so that the businesses can afford to hire people and buy machinery and send their goods around the world.

Some of those investors are pension funds, and governments, which calculate that the businesses they invest in will do well, and so they will get their money back, plus interest as a repayment on their loan.

When the markets 'crash', this means that all these loans lose value. So your grandmother's pension now won't pay her, and she won't have money to buy food, or to buy you a nice present of a phone - which won't be made either, because the company won't have the money to pay its workers and buy its parts. And over in China, those workers will lose their jobs. The money they were paid will disappear from the Chinese economy, so other people will lose their jobs too.

Your government will lose the money it lent to companies and to other governments. So there will be no money to pay back people who have paid insurance against unemployment or towards their pensions; there will be no money to help small businesses to start up or to keep going in hard times.

The markets aren't a global illuminati; they're how money is lent and borrowed around the world. It's not a good thing for anyone if they crash.

This could be as bad as the 1930s Depression.

listermint

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Basically he's the PM

Back to your Ovaltine Lister, pretend this isn't happening.
Give it a few hours & try not to be a beligerant prick all your life!

Quite clear you didn't understand the question.

As expected.

listermint

Chuchote wrote: »

Why does it matter? Why do the markets matter?

Investors lend their money to businesses so that the businesses can afford to hire people and buy machinery and send their goods around the world.

Some of those investors are pension funds, and governments, which calculate that the businesses they invest in will do well, and so they will get their money back, plus interest as a repayment on their loan.

When the markets 'crash', this means that all these loans lose value. So your grandmother's pension now won't pay her, and she won't have money to buy food, or to buy you a nice present of a phone - which won't be made either, because the company won't have the money to pay its workers and buy its parts. And over in China, those workers will lose their jobs. The money they were paid will disappear from the Chinese economy, so other people will lose their jobs too.

Your government will lose the money it lent to companies and to other governments. So there will be no money to pay pack people who have paid insurance against unemployment or towards their pensions; there will be no money to help small businesses to start up or to keep going in hard times.

The markets aren't a global illuminati; they're how money is lent and borrowed around the world. It's not a good thing for anyone if they crash.

This could be as bad as the 1930s Depression.

No this is all good.......

Until the looneys scrambling for it here in ireland have their dole slashed. The

kneemos

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Top story is about the reaction of "the markets"

That's exactly why he will be elected

People are sick of it

That's why they elected the great socialist Trump ?

Lisha

I'm sad for America and slightly scared for the rest of the world.

What a numpty and now he is a very powerful one.

Mr.Nice Guy

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Top story is about the reaction of "the markets"

That's exactly why he will be elected

People are sick of it

They're sick of it and yet they're electing a mega rich tycoon who won't release his tax returns.

Only in America.

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Chuchote wrote: »

Why does it matter? Why do the markets matter?

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Markets matter long term. Short term they mean nothing.

The problem with the US is that the markets have been impacting day to day politics by throwing hissy fits which the politicians react to.

Those days are over. The markets will do just fine under Trump.

Chuchote

Deleted User wrote: »

Markets matter long term. Short term they mean nothing.

Tell that to the people who starved in America's breadlines in the 1930s after the 1929 Black Friday stock market crash. Many of them Irish. A stock market crash crashes an economy - or by now the interlinked world economy.

marklazarcovic

i smell an assassination

[Deleted User]

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Top story is about the reaction of "the markets"

That's exactly why he will be elected

People are sick of it

I'm sick of the colour of my bedroom so in gonna burn the house down.

listermint

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

They're sick of it and yet they're electing a mega rich tycoon who won't release his tax returns.

Only in America.

This in a nutshell.

The purest form of Irony

SeantheMan

stankratz wrote: »

"I'd rather be first and wrong than second and right." An unfortunately common mantra in times like these. OP is jumping the gun, but soon the thread will more than likely be accurate.

Of course he will win. But there is no Karma or anything like that or boards.ie , we have no need for these preemptive posts.
A thread should be made after he was confirmed, or discussed on the ELECTION thread.