A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: » How do you even grab a vagina?
Walter H Price wrote: » ... just never spotted a vagina grab myself
py2006 wrote: » It can be if you are into the girl and things are getting heavy. However in my instance: a) It was unexpected from a stranger and hurt like hell. b) It was a random grab much to the hilarity of her and her friends c) It is actually humiliating and embarrassing What is annoying is that if I made a deal of it I would be been laughed at, disbelieved or told "yea right you wish"
Walter H Price wrote: » i get the grabed by the crotch thing though like that can be fairly erotic for a lad in certain circumstance but like does grabing a wonan by the vagina actualy achieve anything other then making you look like a total knob , would be fairly suprised if this was a common occurance at all
Walter H Price wrote: » who the fcuk gets anything out of grabbing a vagina that just seems a weird thing to do , honestly dont think i've ever seen any bloke with the girl or other wise grab her by the vagina like im not sure this happens tbh
py2006 wrote: » EDIT: I worked briefly at the age of 15 as a loungeboy and had my ass pinched on more than one occasion.
py2006 wrote: » I am sure it does but most certainly not rampant. In my earlier days, as I said before, I was grabbed in the crotch by girls in nightclubs. I'd say it happened 3-4 times. It hurt too on one occasion. But ssshhh, don't tell Louise... EDIT: I worked briefly at the age of 15 as a loungeboy and had my ass pinched on more than one occasion.
midlandsmissus wrote: » I mentioned a grab of the vagina. I know if it was me, walked up to a girl in a bar, grabbed her vagina and walked on, I would know it was her most intimate place, she wouldn't like it, but I insisted on doing it anyway to feel powerful. Sexual assault is always about power.
py2006 wrote: » Not necessarily, a drunken pinch on the ass (however unwanted and inappropriate) doesn't necessarily equate to the guy (OR GIRL) trying to be dominant or powerful.
Walter H Price wrote: » no not missing your point at all , i was agree and just saying that the sentiment you expressed is routinely being express in the media , in articles like the one in the topic of this thread and i also feel it negatively impacts men and women. apologies if that didn't come across.
midlandsmissus wrote: » Sexual assaut is an act of dominance and power always.
Mortpourvelo wrote: » I think you're missing my point, I AGREE that both male and female can be vulnerable and victims of physical and sexual assault equally. It was another poster who said basically that a woman alone at night isn't the same as a man alone at night. I agree with your post.
Butters1979 wrote: » Letting them win? Explain how blokes who like to grope women on nights out would see women no longer going to said nights out as winning?
midlandsmissus wrote: » But why would you let anyone stop you from going out? That's letting them win. I've been groped in a nightclub in the vagina once and that doesn't stop me going out. I think he was a pathetic prick, but again I don't think all men are like that, and I wouldn't give him the power to stop me going
Butters1979 wrote: » Bullsh1t. If women were truly harassed to that level and felt at any moment they would be raped they wouldn't be in nightclubs dressed up to the nines knocking back drink like it's a free bar. They'd stay well clear of the violent and dangerous world of outside. Most women look forward too and enjoy (and quite rightly) a good night out. If they were in this much fear they would not.
pumpkin4life wrote: » It must be so hard being Louise O Neill.
Walter H Price wrote: » i think this kind of thinking being promoted has a negative impact in two ways, it makes girls feel vulnerable and afraid giving them a victim mentality. But i think it also make some men , who maybe a bit weaker or whatever feeling very insecure and uncomfortable with the fact that the may be afraid to be on their own late at night. i remember a friend of mine talking to me about this a few years ago , I'm 6"2 a former rugby player and boxer with a massive Joe Leadly - esque beard , not your stereotypical victim type. I remember a mate saying to me that he was concerned he'd never be able to protect any girl that was with him if they got mugged or whatever because he was to afraid of getting in a fight. This was shortly after a similar situation involving my Girlfriend. I remember feeling really bad for him that he felt in 2015 that society still expected him to be the big tough man protecting his damsel is distress can only imagine what it does to lads confidence who maybe have ended up in that situation and hadn't been able to scrap it out for whatever reason. But i was also thinking I've know this guy since we were 5 or 6 and he's never been a scrapper i could only imagine the state he could end up in if he tried to step in or that.
Mortpourvelo wrote: » Women are apparently fluffy little victims in waiting. Whereas all men wear suits like Ironman and are impervious to harm. As a woman, you have no idea how dumb I felt typing that - imagine believing it!!!!
Mortpourvelo wrote: » You're having a laugh ?? That is truly pathetic!!!
Mortpourvelo wrote: » Rot. Utter and complete rot.
LLMMLL wrote: » There's been a lot of posts in this thread about men experiencing violence and having to move on and they don't play the victim and why don't we say we have a violence culture etc. I've been physically assaulted (as part of a robbery). It happened once. On an average night out there is zero suggestion I will be physically assaulted. If I went out and there was regularly a suggestion someone might beat my head in, this together with my actual assault would make me fearful. And it would make all the other men on this thread fearful too. Most women I know are suggested to sexual harassment. Some are so used to it they consider it normal to be groped and called "c**t" for not responding to a come on. It's completely different to men experiencing a violent physical assault once in their life. I'm not saying we have a rape culture but to equate the fear a lone woman might feel to the fear a lone man might feel is completely ridiculous.
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