Johnboy1951 wrote: » I am unsure what you mean here ........ the fibre will not be taken into a house/building unless a connection is requested, as I understand it.
Allison Puny Appetite wrote: » When he says "premises wired" he means premises passed ie the fibre runs past your door, on poles or in ducting, ready to be brought into your house. All the operators use this passed figue when releasing numbers.
Gonzo wrote: When open eir mention lines passed they mean the line is capable of receiving FTTH, the internet connection inside the premises will still be copper based until the customer then orders FTTH. But having your line wired up outside means your good to go and order FTTH, and that's what's most important to most people.
damienirel wrote: » Good luck to them, they think they have a business case, I fail to see it.
Gonzo wrote: » Im fairly sure that your copper line would be used, they would run fiber from the pole outside your gate to a room in your house. You have to order FTTH using your current phone/line number from your house which has been passed by Eir as capable of receiving FTTH services. If you order an FTTH package, you would have both FTTH and the copper line for your phone but if you order FTTH broadband only they would propably disconnect your copper and just leave you with the fiber.
plodder wrote: » Even Eir themselves want to shutdown the copper network. They will (I presume) deliver your fixed line telephone service with the same number over FTTH as well.
Gwynston wrote: » Would that require additional hardware (beyond what would be supplied for broadband from the FTTH connection) in order that old phones still work? Don't old phones work on essentially an analogue signal from the copper wire? e.g if you currently want to use VOIP technology, you basically need a new digital-enabled phone. So would Eir need to insert some box inside your house to convert the (presumably digital) signal from the fibre into something old phones understand?
plodder wrote: » Yes, it would need VOIP support builtin to the router (or in an external box). I'm not saying their current routers do it, but it's the obvious solution long term. You could have an analog RJ11 jack from the router that you connect your old phone to. The one use case that this doesn't handle is phone lines permanently available even in power cuts, but there should be other solutions to that problem rather than keeping the entire copper based network alive.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » You are mixing up the requirements for FTTC and FTTH. FTTC uses the copper line to get from cab to the premises. FTTH does not.
oscarBravo wrote: » Has it occurred to you that they have a great deal more information about their business case than you do?
Gonzo wrote: » Im not mixing up FTTC and FTTH! FTTH is fiber directly into the modem. But for normal phone calls the normal copper cable is still required?
Gonzo wrote: » another update to work going on in Dunshaughlin. 1 - some work being carried out on old N3 Navan side near the garage. Looks like ducting. 2 - still ongoing work on the R125 Dunshaughlin-Ratoath. 3 - KNN are back near my road and have started back where they started from back in April. They are back at the ducting for a 1km distance and have opened up all the manholes and placed cones all along the ducting. A large KNN truck has arrived with a large reel of black cable with what looks like white sticky tape on the end of it. Another 4 large reels of black cable is sitting in the trailer, unopened still in its plastic. Could be an interesting week. I am reserving my excitement until I see them wiring up outside my gate, but will update more later.
long_b wrote: » You havent ordered yet though - what are you expecting they'll be doing outside your gate specifically?
Gonzo wrote: » large team now ( 6 KNN vans) about 800 meters away from me. Yesterday and this morning they appeared to be linking up the fiber from Cab DSN1_13 under the road across to the first of the new manholes created back in April. Alot of black cable is strung along the side of the road beside the ducting and manholes all open. Terrible day for the lads to be working.
damienirel wrote: » Considering we had great weather for weeks and weeks! Oh well murphys law! At least fibre is coming your way soon.
Dero wrote: » I saw a KNN van laying cable of some sort on long_b's road (Co. Kildare, Curragh exchange) yesterday evening. Two vans and a mini-digger with a reel of yellow cable of some sort (looked for all the world like 10BASE5, if anyone remembers that). It was odd because this was about a quarter past five and it was pitch dark. Might be nothing to do with FTTH, but it is on a blue line.
ED E wrote: » Into the silly season now, fault times will be through the roof by Jan 1st. Don't envy OpenEir & KNN staff.
Gonzo wrote: » the lads went off after lunch and not surprised. The ducting area is now water logged, water running down the sides of the roads and leaves everywhere. Horrendous day here. They left their cones, road signs and a large reel of cable covered up for tomorrow.
ItHurtsWhenIP wrote: » If they come back, will you ever go down to them with a flask of tay and a few biccies and find out for sure what is happening with your road.
Tommy Lagahan wrote: » Tea and sambos man! If me uncle who works for eir has to do the lines up to my house I'll personally go out and help him lol
Gonzo wrote: » all this proves is how desperate us poor souls outside of Virgin Media and FTTC land are, and this is mild, we are desperate. * * as desperate as Trump is to win President.
Tommy Lagahan wrote: » ~500 quid deep into 4G antennas and modem and yes, I think I can call myself desperate :pac:
Gonzo wrote: » * as desperate as Trump is to win President.
