Potatoeman wrote: » Angry feminist with daddy issues, what are the odds.
midnight city wrote: » Mansplaining is a charged word and much abused.
Widdershins wrote: » Wow. I've done nothing but support men against angry feminists. There was no anger or unfriendliness in any way in anything I wrote. And I have no ''daddy issues'', I am quite comfortable and at peace with my upbringing. I won't 'gender' your problem, you're just an arsehole.
Potatoeman wrote: » Nothing personal, couldn't resist.
Mortpourvelo wrote: » It's a bloody ridiculous word IMHO!!!
midnight city wrote: » I seen a new one recently called a Manel meaning an all male panel.
LLMMLL wrote: » There's been a lot of posts in this thread about men experiencing violence and having to move on and they don't play the victim and why don't we say we have a violence culture etc. I've been physically assaulted (as part of a robbery). It happened once. On an average night out there is zero suggestion I will be physically assaulted. If I went out and there was regularly a suggestion someone might beat my head in, this together with my actual assault would make me fearful. And it would make all the other men on this thread fearful too. Most women I know are suggested to sexual harassment. Some are so used to it they consider it normal to be groped and called "c**t" for not responding to a come on. It's completely different to men experiencing a violent physical assault once in their life. I'm not saying we have a rape culture but to equate the fear a lone woman might feel to the fear a lone man might feel is completely ridiculous.
LLMMLL wrote: » I'm not saying we have a rape culture but to equate the fear a lone woman might feel to the fear a lone man might feel is completely ridiculous.
Mortpourvelo wrote: » Rot. Utter and complete rot.
py2006 wrote: » Oh please do explain...
Mortpourvelo wrote: » You're having a laugh ?? That is truly pathetic!!!
Mortpourvelo wrote: » Women are apparently fluffy little victims in waiting. Whereas all men wear suits like Ironman and are impervious to harm. As a woman, you have no idea how dumb I felt typing that - imagine believing it!!!!
Walter H Price wrote: » i think this kind of thinking being promoted has a negative impact in two ways, it makes girls feel vulnerable and afraid giving them a victim mentality. But i think it also make some men , who maybe a bit weaker or whatever feeling very insecure and uncomfortable with the fact that the may be afraid to be on their own late at night. i remember a friend of mine talking to me about this a few years ago , I'm 6"2 a former rugby player and boxer with a massive Joe Leadly - esque beard , not your stereotypical victim type. I remember a mate saying to me that he was concerned he'd never be able to protect any girl that was with him if they got mugged or whatever because he was to afraid of getting in a fight. This was shortly after a similar situation involving my Girlfriend. I remember feeling really bad for him that he felt in 2015 that society still expected him to be the big tough man protecting his damsel is distress can only imagine what it does to lads confidence who maybe have ended up in that situation and hadn't been able to scrap it out for whatever reason. But i was also thinking I've know this guy since we were 5 or 6 and he's never been a scrapper i could only imagine the state he could end up in if he tried to step in or that.
pumpkin4life wrote: » It must be so hard being Louise O Neill.
Butters1979 wrote: » Bullsh1t. If women were truly harassed to that level and felt at any moment they would be raped they wouldn't be in nightclubs dressed up to the nines knocking back drink like it's a free bar. They'd stay well clear of the violent and dangerous world of outside. Most women look forward too and enjoy (and quite rightly) a good night out. If they were in this much fear they would not.
midlandsmissus wrote: » But why would you let anyone stop you from going out? That's letting them win. I've been groped in a nightclub in the vagina once and that doesn't stop me going out. I think he was a pathetic prick, but again I don't think all men are like that, and I wouldn't give him the power to stop me going
Butters1979 wrote: » Letting them win? Explain how blokes who like to grope women on nights out would see women no longer going to said nights out as winning?
Mortpourvelo wrote: » I think you're missing my point, I AGREE that both male and female can be vulnerable and victims of physical and sexual assault equally. It was another poster who said basically that a woman alone at night isn't the same as a man alone at night. I agree with your post.
midlandsmissus wrote: » Sexual assaut is an act of dominance and power always.
py2006 wrote: » Not necessarily, a drunken pinch on the ass (however unwanted and inappropriate) doesn't necessarily equate to the guy (OR GIRL) trying to be dominant or powerful.
Walter H Price wrote: » no not missing your point at all , i was agree and just saying that the sentiment you expressed is routinely being express in the media , in articles like the one in the topic of this thread and i also feel it negatively impacts men and women. apologies if that didn't come across.