deiseindublin wrote: » I think you'd need that to do their job to be fair. More power to them.
vin33 wrote: » Whether it's true or not, those/we who work in the private sector look with envy on the hours that teachers work. For sure it's true that our pensions don't come anywhere near and most people don't have a clue about this. If they did you would have no sympathy. That actually is the point, because you could win this purely on your lpt point because the public are quite ignorant. So play that card.
Sarah3 wrote: » Vin33, I am a current serving teacher but previous to my teaching career I worked in the private sector in a managerial role. I frequently worked more than my required 39 hours pw in that role and since becoming a teacher I can honestly say I now work more hours pw than previously when I take into account time in the evenings and at the weekend spent lesson planning, correcting tests etc. My husband frequently looks on wondering why I don't return to my previous job where I was paid more and my evenings could be spent with my family not working for my students. This is an all too frequent misconception with the general public that when the students finish the teachers also finish but never so.
Villain wrote: » My wife is a teacher and also my Brother, they have never worked 39 hours in a week so lets not tar all teachers with either brush
TheDriver wrote: » It now seems that Gardaí on ground aren't too happy about their new proposals and probably feel they can get things they want. It's turning into a right mess for the Govt, even Varadkar is keeping quiet at moment
judeboy101 wrote: » Useless to us. The gov will have us broken to pieces by time they ballot. We all know what happens when someone stands up to a bully, he goes harder on the next victim. The guards gave FG a bloody nose, they will take it out on us.��
acequion wrote: » You're probably right but what else can we do but hold our ground.Posters are right when they say we are naieve and that we shouldnt have given them an opportunity to lock us out.But backing down is unthinkable.However I still cannot fathom the legality of withholding our pay and hope that can be challenged.Id also feel betrayed by BOMs.But with many,perhaps most, still in the hands of religious orders am not surprised.
man_no_plan wrote: Do you think the TUI package, accelerated a bit plus the option to opt out extended to all would be palatable? Option for teachers in the scheme to be paid for extra supervision up to say, 60 hours per year?
Inspector Coptoor wrote: » We are in on Monday with school open to Exam years. Interesting times ahead.
km79 wrote: » asti only school?
political analyst wrote: » Why doesn't the ASTI challenge the Govt's refusal to pay ASTI members for S&S in the courts?
judeboy101 wrote: » How long will that take? Gov have no problem dragging couples whose kids have suffered damage in birth through the courts for years.
political analyst wrote: » Here's an even better idea - how about parents seek an injunction in the High Court to force the Govt to pay ASTI members for S&S on the grounds that refusal to pay for S&S violates the Govt's constitutional obligation to provide for education?
judeboy101 wrote: » No constitutional right to secondary education only primary didn't that yank in cork try that with her autistic son and supreme count ruled only primary?
political analyst wrote: » The Jamie Sinnott case was about primary education for people who have special needs and are under the age of 18 years. The Supreme Court didn't say anything about secondary education.
deiseindublin wrote: » Wonder when/if we'll hear how talks today went? From news it sounded like they weren't meeting til 2pm or 3pm.
km79 wrote: » within next hour I predict ",no progress blah blah blah" more talks tomorrow Announced for news "industrial action deferred "
judeboy101 wrote: » No deferral, FG want us as whipping boys for rest of ICTU
km79 wrote: » maybe it's us that will concede ......
judeboy101 wrote: Union following 1916 approach, blood sacrifice etc. We need to suffer and it needs to be shown to membership how management, parents and trustees care nothing for us. That way the failure will be less harmful to the union in the future. Kinda like hardening a stick by burning away the softness.
