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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

Timmaay

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

All farming sectors go through difficult periods and during such times there may need to be changes in how threads are moderated.

Dairy threads are going to be more closely monitored and subject to stricter moderation for a while.

To that end we won’t tolerate baiting of posters, constantly reviving old arguments, posters with agendas or crusading for a cause.

Whether it’s discussion of the business or politics of the dairy or other sectors, we expect civility and tolerance toward each other and other opinions as diversity of opinion is needed as a source of different ways of looking at a situation.

"The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert

Also please be aware that what you may post as light-hearted banter can be read totally differently by someone adversely affected by the subject matter and evoke a reaction you hadn’t intended.

The ‘Off-Season’ forum, and its anonymous posting, is available for anyone to chat about their situation.

The Mod Team.

10 away from the 10000 posts! Frazz I think it's fair to say this thread has been a success!

Indeed it was! First thread can be found here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056872221

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Keepgrowing

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

KG, are you going to milk off the OCs, some weather for it. They'd be as clean as ICs in this weather.
First night in here. 20% of the block left. 20 more days out.
Dried off 10% earlier in the week, any with feet issues and a few bcs issues.
No 1st calvers dried off yet, very happy with their bcs ( thank you fty), I'll start into them on the 15th

Will milk till dry off in Dec off oc's. Winter milkers will be housed Monday and milked from the shed.

pedigree 6

Coolfresian wrote: »

Do many people have rubber mats on the parlour floor or just concrete? Any good ideas what might be the best way to go?

Rubber is a good job in the pit floor.

EXCEPT. You should plan for the dept of the rubber when building the parlour.
I.e when you're building the parlour and measuring the dept of the pit. The pit dept is measured from the waist of the milker, so your back is straight. Now if you go as an afterthought and add the dept of rubber, you're higher up and back to bending down your back when working. Giving you back problems.

The belt on your trousers should be level with the cow standing floor.:)

OverRide

Timmaay wrote: »

Must be even slower here, they are still full time on grass.

Don't worry,you're a rogue and I'm another
Loads of grass here so on course to let them in around Dec 1st
None eating silage yet either,full as ticks on grass and some dairy nuts
No sign of any of my neighbours putting them in full timeeither,some are in a night ,most out day and night and a lot on silage/diet wagon now alright
All bar a few are liquid or winter suppliers
Will be introducing some silage ourselves in about a week or two and gradually increasing
The grounds as dry as a bone

Mooooo

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Will milk till dry off in Dec off oc's. Winter milkers will be housed Monday and milked from the shed.

Happy cows. Is yard around them inclosed? As in could anything run in to spook em? A couple of years ago I was checking dry cows and on the phone to sis who was in Cork and and there was a bolt of lightning and thunder, yearlings were next to cows and they scattered and dries did the same, the walls between that group and milkers stopped the milkers from panicking as well I'd say. I got the fright of my life never seen cows panic like it in sheds, of course twas the yearlings that set em off. Plastic blowing on the pit did similar one time since but it was just the cows next to young stock

Keepgrowing

Mooooo wrote: »

Happy cows. Is yard around them inclosed? As in could anything run in to spook em? A couple of years ago I was checking dry cows and on the phone to sis who was in Cork and and there was a bolt of lightning and thunder, yearlings were next to cows and they scattered and dries did the same, the walls between that group and milkers stopped the milkers from panicking as well I'd say. I got the fright of my life never seen cows panic like it in sheds, of course twas the yearlings that set em off. Plastic blowing on the pit did similar one time since but it was just the cows next to young stock

Surrounded by either concrete or steel so should be fine but as you know anything could happen

kowtow

pedigree 6 wrote:

Rubber is a good job in the pit floor.

Any suggestions for price? Just been looking at 50cm square tiles and they are about 14e each. The purpose built industrial mats are a fortune.

Signpost

mahoney_j wrote: »

credit is flexible within reason ,no money collected till late April may and I clear balance at year end .brandy ,2 bottles of wine and a few calendars lobbed in my door too at Xmas

I do all my business with the one crowd, got a hat about 8 years ago from them and I'd say thats about it. 60 days credit and will be collected in full on that day. 270 for 18% seems to be the average since about May on this year. Willing to disclose if your mill deliver outside of Tipp if they can get a full lorry in the area?

pedigree 6

kowtow wrote: »

Any suggestions for price? Just been looking at 50cm square tiles and they are about 14e each. The purpose built industrial mats are a fortune.

No idea on price. The blue ones look well.
A friend of mine used to milk in a pit and I think Mayo Mats put it in (black) not sure if it was in a roll or mats. But he said it was really snug and comfortable to milk on.

Timmaay

OverRide wrote: »

Don't worry,you're a rogue and I'm another
Loads of grass here so on course to let them in around Dec 1st
None eating silage yet either,full as ticks on grass and some dairy nuts
No sign of any of my neighbours putting them in full timeeither,some are in a night ,most out day and night and a lot on silage/diet wagon now alright
All bar a few are liquid or winter suppliers
Will be introducing some silage ourselves in about a week or two and gradually increasing
The grounds as dry as a bone

Thinking about the lack of protien I'm going to have in the diet, and not wanting to house until hopefully late Nov, I'm going to do a grass measure the morning and budget hard for the next 3weeks. Calving not due to start until Feb 12th, and we get very frost, and usually grow around 7/day over the whole winter, I'll happily down towards an afc of 600. If the weather changes meanwhile I'll pull the pin on the cows and let the 16 born heifers graze out wherever allows. SR is 2.4 at the min also, with the incalf heifers on silage fulltime.

kevthegaff

Cows in Monday, 70% heifers nxt weekend in also as scanning, rest of heifers out until Jan 1st on rented block. Bad mistake on my part selling 2 feeders on wheels earlier in the year, ideal in present conditions

Timmaay

kevthegaff wrote: »

Cows in Monday, 70% heifers nxt weekend in also as scanning, rest of heifers out until Jan 1st on rented block. Bad mistake on my part selling 2 feeders on wheels earlier in the year, ideal in present conditions

I was only thinking today one would be handy, I'm lobbing a bale into a ring feeder for incalf heifers at the sec, but need to empty a roofed silage pit to use it as straw bedded. Unless I draw it down in the trailer, and tip it along in front of a temporary electric fence? The weather will hardly hold to let me away with that tho ha.

visatorro

2.80 for cull cow in factory. Straight out of parlour came into 816. Was inconclusive on tb test so couldn't sell private. She had the most flesh so that's the top price i would have gotten.
Sold similar framed cows for 700 two months ago but they wouldn't have killed as well as her.

Mooooo

Cows in 2 days and have been scraper surfing already. In the autumn normally look forward to them going as it saves all the tooing and froing and once there in you can't wait till spring again ha

Signpost

I'd say Monday I'll be pulling the pin on days and housing them full time. Was hoping to carry another few days but once I graze out this block I'm nervous of doing damage. Seem to be doing good on silage + 3kg of 18% nut and BC isn't dropping on any of them so see how we go. Nice luxury to have them on grass in November. Can remember 2012 having them inside for some few days of every month. Still makes me nervous even thinking about it!

leg wax

who on here has heifers going to kilmallock mart on monday can they pm please.:cool:

Mooooo

leg wax wrote: »

who on here has heifers going to kilmallock mart on monday can they pm please.:cool:

Nothing going from here anyway, what do you vaccinate for legs as your still buying in or do you cover for everything?

mf240

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Why don't you go and take a long walk off a short pier......

Edited by Mod to ensure the correct meaning is taken up...... and avoid more RPs to deal with.

It made more sense before it was edited.

I was only trying to find out which creamery he was supplying . Obviously doesn't have to say if doesn't want.

Won't ask again in case it causes offence.

leg wax

Mooooo wrote: »

Nothing going from here anyway, what do you vaccinate for legs as your still buying in or do you cover for everything?

cover for lepto sam ibr , dose and bolus.

simx

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Getting 100t of All calcium lime delivered and spread next week for 22.50/t.
How does that sound?

Same here spread last week

pedigree 6

simx wrote: »

Same here spread last week

Hopefully the farm will be white on Monday evening.
There's rain coming Monday night and Tuesday so should wash it in.
Land is in the best condition ever for spreading at this time of year.
Next door neighbour is spreading today.

Progressive farmers spread lime.:pac::D

Timmaay

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Hopefully the farm will be white on Monday evening.
There's rain coming Monday night and Tuesday so should wash it in.
Land is in the best condition ever for spreading at this time of year.
Next door neighbour is spreading today.

Progressive farmers spread lime.:pac::D

How soon after spreading lime can ya graze...

Mooooo

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Hopefully the farm will be white on Monday evening.
There's rain coming Monday night and Tuesday so should wash it in.
Land is in the best condition ever for spreading at this time of year.
Next door neighbour is spreading today.

Progressive farmers spread lime.:pac::D

When would you normally go out with urea?

pedigree 6

Timmaay wrote: »

How soon after spreading lime can ya graze...

Not really sure.
I've one field that won't be getting it and the cows and youngsters will be in there.
But I've 2 bulls and a cow that will be going back on a field the next day and I'm hoping the rain will have washed it off the grass.

pedigree 6

Mooooo wrote: »

When would you normally go out with urea?

Spring.
I think I may skip it and use CAN instead.
Depends on weather but probably use CAN.

danjoe

This maybe a stupid question but I am thinking of feeding suckler cows and calves( all under 5 months old) 18% dairy nuts to all stock rather than having 2 or 3 different types of ration, is it ok to do this?

Timmaay

I may finally get a calving gate. No huge demand for one here, c sections etc don't exist, so more just looking for a cheap but functional one. How does this one look? https://www.donedeal.ie/farmsheds-for-sale/calving-gates/10806349

greysides

Looking okay to me. Basically it's a division between calving pens so bear that in mind when you're siting it. I've seen it done wrongly so the animal has her head to one side while you're calving her. I like the way she can go down and still be safe. Also as regards positioning, bear in mind that a caesarian is done with the incision on the cow's left side. Be careful how you intend to hold the swinging section in its open position. A chain will need to be out of the way of the head of the jack, including when the cow decides to lie down.

GrasstoMilk

Timmaay wrote: »

I may finally get a calving gate. No huge demand for one here, c sections etc don't exist, so more just looking for a cheap but functional one. How does this one look? https://www.donedeal.ie/farmsheds-for-sale/calving-gates/10806349

I've the very same one as in last one, no issues with it
Have it 3 years I'd we've only ever had a cows in it 6 times but it's something I wouldn't do with out now

greysides

I can't understand farmers without a decent calving set up. It's not the vet that's going to get the best value out of it.

PS: Consider lighting as well.

raypallas

greysides wrote:

I can't understand farmers without a decent calving set up. It's not the vet that's going to get the best value out of it.

Agree fully. Put in a purpose built calving shed about 4 years ago with 6 pens, crush with gate and made up our version of one of those calving gates. Never looked back, had a few close shaves in the old small stone houses!