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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

Timmaay

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

All farming sectors go through difficult periods and during such times there may need to be changes in how threads are moderated.

Dairy threads are going to be more closely monitored and subject to stricter moderation for a while.

To that end we won’t tolerate baiting of posters, constantly reviving old arguments, posters with agendas or crusading for a cause.

Whether it’s discussion of the business or politics of the dairy or other sectors, we expect civility and tolerance toward each other and other opinions as diversity of opinion is needed as a source of different ways of looking at a situation.

"The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert

Also please be aware that what you may post as light-hearted banter can be read totally differently by someone adversely affected by the subject matter and evoke a reaction you hadn’t intended.

The ‘Off-Season’ forum, and its anonymous posting, is available for anyone to chat about their situation.

The Mod Team.

10 away from the 10000 posts! Frazz I think it's fair to say this thread has been a success!

Indeed it was! First thread can be found here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056872221

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Injuryprone

kevthegaff wrote: »

Maize. Beet pulp, barley, soya bean hulls 14% nut 230

Are those 4 ingredients not all around the 10% protein mark or below(maize)? How do they get it to 14%?

Injuryprone

jaymla627 wrote: »

Yes ordered stuff listed above, rep admitted he was at fault apparently can't be taken back out so got him to knock a 100 a ton of price, may just feed a bit extra to make up for crap ingrediants

It is possible for them to suck the nuts out of the bin. I had it here when they blew the weanling nut ( no calmag) into the dairy bin. At 180 /tonne, I dunno are they loosing out too much on the spec you called out, when you see what people above are getting for 220-240.

Keepgrowing

Ordered winter nut today as cows finished grazing today.
18% protein €220 per tonne blown in.

Barley is main ingredient don't ask the rest as price is my main consideration as most are spring calving cows

whelan2

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Have samples sent off to bagnelstown also so be interesting to see how they compare

maize /wholecrop test takes longer and costs more than ordinary silage test, I learnt the hard way you have to specify you want the specific test

GrasstoMilk

whelan2 wrote: »

maize /wholecrop test takes longer and costs more than ordinary silage test, I learnt the hard way you have to specify you want the specific test

Yep, have that sorted

freedominacup

jaymla627 wrote: »

Yes ordered stuff listed above, rep admitted he was at fault apparently can't be taken back out so got him to knock a 100 a ton of price, may just feed a bit extra to make up for crap ingrediants

Absolutely can be taken back. You didn't get what you ordered you have no obligation to pay for it. Tell them it's available for collection until tomorrow. After that you're dumping it. I've had two batches taken back over the past few years.

freedominacup

kevthegaff wrote: »

Maize. Beet pulp, barley, soya bean hulls 14% nut 230

There's no way that ration has 14% pr. Nothing in it to get you to 14.

jaymla627

freedominacup wrote: »

Absolutely can be taken back. You didn't get what you ordered you have no obligation to pay for it. Tell them it's available for collection until tomorrow. After that you're dumping it. I've had two batches taken back over the past few years.

Only that I'll probably get another 3 weeks out at grass I would of had it taken back cows shouldn't drop to much on it also got a very good deal on the next load I get of what I wanted in the first place but will more then likely will just order of the mill I do 90% of my business with

Timmaay

freedominacup wrote: »

Absolutely can be taken back. You didn't get what you ordered you have no obligation to pay for it. Tell them it's available for collection until tomorrow. After that you're dumping it. I've had two batches taken back over the past few years.

Blown into a loft here still, I've told feed merchants before that if I'm not happy they can come back themselves with a shovel to remove it all!

freedominacup

jaymla627 wrote: »

Only that I'll probably get another 3 weeks out at grass I would of had it taken back cows shouldn't drop to much on it also got a very good deal on the next load I get of what I wanted in the first place but will more then likely will just order of the mill I do 90% of my business with

I wouldn't be paying for it. You try bringing a load of crap grain to them and see what you get. Better yet rock up to their organic/gluten free oat intakes and tip up a load of conventional grain and see what happens you. They'd probably try to have you arrested for criminal damage. What mill are you getting it from?

mahoney_j

jaymla627 wrote: »

Only that I'll probably get another 3 weeks out at grass I would of had it taken back cows shouldn't drop to much on it also got a very good deal on the next load I get of what I wanted in the first place but will more then likely will just order of the mill I do 90% of my business with

I do 100% of my dairy feed business with one company and have done so for last 4 years .never got as much as 1 bad load ,excellent nutritional back up without the pushy sales push ,competitive price ,excellent quality feed and no issues as regard making a special .my nut contains the same ingridents all year with alterations made for protein and fibre content at stages of the year .ive even had our group in for a tour of feed mill followed by an open q&a and also had nutritionist out to attend 1 group meeting per year .no charge and no bull**** .i do ring around once a year to get a price on what mix I'm using and there never beaten .credit is flexible within reason ,no money collected till late April may and I clear balance at year end .brandy ,2 bottles of wine and a few calendars lobbed in my door too at Xmas

FarmerDougal

Injuryprone wrote: »

It is possible for them to suck the nuts out of the bin. I had it here when they blew the weanling nut ( no calmag) into the dairy bin. At 180 /tonne, I dunno are they loosing out too much on the spec you called out, when you see what people above are getting for 220-240.

Got our crowd to bag it out of an old shedðŸ˜„

blackdog1

freedominacup wrote:

There's no way that ration has 14% pr. Nothing in it to get you to 14.

Could be if there is a comma between soya bean and hulls

RightTurnClyde

mahoney_j wrote: »

I do 100% of my dairy feed business with one company and have done so for last 4 years .never got as much as 1 bad load ,excellent nutritional back up without the pushy sales push ,competitive price ,excellent quality feed and no issues as regard making a special .my nut contains the same ingridents all year with alterations made for protein and fibre content at stages of the year .ive even had our group in for a tour of feed mill followed by an open q&a and also had nutritionist out to attend 1 group meeting per year .no charge and no bull**** .i do ring around once a year to get a price on what mix I'm using and there never beaten .credit is flexible within reason ,no money collected till late April may and I clear balance at year end .brandy ,2 bottles of wine and a few calendars lobbed in my door too at Xmas

I'm dealing with the same crowd. They're a pleasure to deal with and provide an excellent service. A few coops could do with taking a leaf out of their book, with regards how to treat their customers.

bogman_bass

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Getting 100t of All calcium lime delivered and spread next week for 22.50/t.
How does that sound?

sounds about par for the course

Keepgrowing

Cows in tonight, that's grazing done for this year

mf240

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Cows in tonight, that's grazing done for this year

What creamary are you supplying this week.?:D

mf240

Cows more or less on silage here but going out for a few hours.

Slow learner so will graze when it's dry and leave in next Feb march if it's wet .

Injuryprone

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

I'm dealing with the same crowd. They're a pleasure to deal with and provide an excellent service. A few coops could do with taking a leaf out of their book, with regards how to treat their customers.

+1
Was with them for 2 years, except this year they were out €20 a tonne on my dairy nut. The new crowd (private company in the same county) are just as good. The only difference is they need 2 days notice most of the time. Must be a private v co-op thing. They must value the custom a bit more

Timmaay

mf240 wrote: »

Cows more or less on silage here but going out for a few hours.

Slow learner so will graze when it's dry and leave in next Feb march if it's wet .

Must be even slower here, they are still full time on grass.

Keepgrowing

mf240 wrote: »

What creamary are you supplying this week.?:D

Why don't you go and take a long walk off a short pier......

Edited by Mod to ensure the correct meaning is taken up...... and avoid more RPs to deal with.

whelan2

Timmaay wrote: »

Must be even slower here, they are still full time on grass.

Mine coming in on monday night.

Coolfresian

Still a third of the cows that will go dry first out by night and the rest out by day. It has been a great autumn.

Coolfresian

Do many people have rubber mats on the parlour floor or just concrete? Any good ideas what might be the best way to go?

kevthegaff

mahoney_j wrote:

I do 100% of my dairy feed business with one company and have done so for last 4 years .never got as much as 1 bad load ,excellent nutritional back up without the pushy sales push ,competitive price ,excellent quality feed and no issues as regard making a special .my nut contains the same ingridents all year with alterations made for protein and fibre content at stages of the year .ive even had our group in for a tour of feed mill followed by an open q&a and also had nutritionist out to attend 1 group meeting per year .no charge and no bull**** .i do ring around once a year to get a price on what mix I'm using and there never beaten .credit is flexible within reason ,no money collected till late April may and I clear balance at year end .brandy ,2 bottles of wine and a few calendars lobbed in my door too at Xmas

No wine from my reps:-(

trixi2011

most of the cows in at this stage now , nearly half the herd dry and going dryng the other half next week due to **** milk prices and free money from the eu. Cows that are milking getting some pretty **** silage and half a kg of meal down to 9 litres at the moment feels very strange drying off in whats usually one of the busiest months of the year

Mooooo

Spring girls inside on silage full time as of yday. Autumn girls outside but buffering with silage until in dry off 15 culls and the cows calving in Jan and first 2 weeks of Feb. will house autumn calvers then when more space and hopefully in 2 weeks it'll be just a case of winter routine as all cows will be calved and culls gone. will milk on a few empties to fill winter qouta and factory in Jan. HAVE enough heifers coming in not to roll over any so hopefully I won't get any stupid ideas come breeding in Jan. ..

RightTurnClyde

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Cows in tonight, that's grazing done for this year

KG, are you going to milk off the OCs, some weather for it. They'd be as clean as ICs in this weather.
First night in here. 20% of the block left. 20 more days out.
Dried off 10% earlier in the week, any with feet issues and a few bcs issues.
No 1st calvers dried off yet, very happy with their bcs ( thank you fty), I'll start into them on the 15th

Keepgrowing

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Why don't you go and take a long walk off a short pier......

Edited by Mod to ensure the correct meaning is taken up...... and avoid more RPs to deal with.

That's not what I meant.

greysides

Keepgrowing wrote: »

That's not what I meant.

My version is safer. :cool: