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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

Timmaay

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

All farming sectors go through difficult periods and during such times there may need to be changes in how threads are moderated.

Dairy threads are going to be more closely monitored and subject to stricter moderation for a while.

To that end we won’t tolerate baiting of posters, constantly reviving old arguments, posters with agendas or crusading for a cause.

Whether it’s discussion of the business or politics of the dairy or other sectors, we expect civility and tolerance toward each other and other opinions as diversity of opinion is needed as a source of different ways of looking at a situation.

"The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert

Also please be aware that what you may post as light-hearted banter can be read totally differently by someone adversely affected by the subject matter and evoke a reaction you hadn’t intended.

The ‘Off-Season’ forum, and its anonymous posting, is available for anyone to chat about their situation.

The Mod Team.

10 away from the 10000 posts! Frazz I think it's fair to say this thread has been a success!

Indeed it was! First thread can be found here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056872221

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rangler1

pedigree 6 wrote: »

And there's places here that are deficient in the stuff. Take all the cows that were eating stones on roadways this year.

I was referring to Holland, there's probably farms poisoned with it here too.....wouldn't be many though

pedigree 6

rangler1 wrote: »

I was referring to Holland, there's probably farms poisoned with it here too.....wouldn't be many though

Yea I know you were.
The biggest advantage with water quality in this country is that grass/crops are never suffering lack of water stress and are continually using up the P.
Not the same for our continental cousins though.
Plus our waterways are more shall we say fuller with more water.
Our water tests better than theirs.
Thank the rain.:D

Mooooo

Will be housing the spring herd next week, whole milking platform grazed since Oct 9th.bar one paddock fresh calvers will finish by thurs/Fri. Given the weather of the last two weeks I felt it best to drive on esp as the heavier ground had dried up. Also hAve extra stock with restrictions which will be gone. Ground which got slurry pre closing date has greened up nicely since grazing, if the rest of the ground got some now it would really set up for spring but thems the rules. With the weather clean out was excellent but wondering is it possible it is too good? Given I went around the farm in 24 days more or less will the cover be too low to grow back sufficiently by feb? This is where I should start measuring and not much I can do about the situation now just wondering opinions as normally the weather forces us in with grass left in the fields

mahoney_j

Mooooo wrote: »

Will be housing the spring herd next week, whole milking platform grazed since Oct 9th.bar one paddock fresh calvers will finish by thurs/Fri. Given the weather of the last two weeks I felt it best to drive on esp as the heavier ground had dried up. Also hAve extra stock with restrictions which will be gone. Ground which got slurry pre closing date has greened up nicely since grazing, if the rest of the ground got some now it would really set up for spring but thems the rules. With the weather clean out was excellent but wondering is it possible it is too good? Given I went around the farm in 24 days more or less will the cover be too low to grow back sufficiently by feb? This is where I should start measuring and not much I can do about the situation now just wondering opinions as normally the weather forces us in with grass left in the fields

You were 100% correct in what u done ,your farm is now perfectly set up for spring ,paddocks cleaned tight ,little or no damage and no butty grass left .im presuming ye get little frost so I reckon you will grow more grass than u ever did throughout the winter by having farm closed out so well .90 plus days to feb1 which I'm guessing is earliest u will turn out at a conservative growth rate of 10 kg per day is over 900
Kg of grass .

GrasstoMilk

mahoney_j wrote: »

You were 100% correct in what u done ,your farm is now perfectly set up for spring ,paddocks cleaned tight ,little or no damage and no butty grass left .im presuming ye get little frost so I reckon you will grow more grass than u ever did throughout the winter by having farm closed out so well .90 plus days to feb1 which I'm guessing is earliest u will turn out at a conservative growth rate of 10 kg per day is over 900
Kg of grass .

Plus what you already have on the farm which is probably 500kg,
You'll definitely loose some of it
I'm in same situation, winter milkers housed and 20 heifers dried and in the shed, they'll go back out with the incalf heifers next week and I'll start feeding silage to rest of the Spring calvers, should have supplemented earlier but weather was so good and I had my accident so didn't happen

GrasstoMilk

http://www.mnfarmliving.com/2016/10/letter-every-farmer-age-35.html

GrasstoMilk

https://www.facebook.com/eddy.costigan/posts/1113330932096303

He's a lucky lucky lad

OverRide

Spare a thought for two different members of this forum that I'm aware of having to deal with difficult circumstances at the moment
Circumstances in both cases that have came in the door not stayed outside
I'm not going to go into details other than one is the chief farmer in that household and is very ill and another has a family member very ill
Just be thankful things are going as well if they are as they can for you

[Deleted User]

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Don't think we'll have that problem from the 1st week of Nov this year.
#iceage

Cant complain, less grass this backend but has been almost unbelievably perfect here.

whelan2

OverRide wrote: »

Spare a thought for two different members of this forum that I'm aware of having to deal with difficult circumstances at the moment
Circumstances in both cases that have came in the door not stayed outside
I'm not going to go into details other than one is the chief farmer in that household and is very ill and another has a family member very ill
Just be thankful things are going as well if they are as they can for you

Tough few days here, hopefully we have turned the corner now , thanks

Buford T. Justice XIX

NZ offering polled high BW sires first the coming year.

https://twitter.com/LICnz/status/792807086400778240

whelan2

I sent a few cows to the factory last week straight from parlour. First cow had a tumour on her eye, was afraid she would be detained. She was 259kg@2euro/kg 519 euro. Second cow was 246kg and I got 493, last one was a johnes heifer not long calved 194kg 350 euro. Total deductions for the 3 was 33 euro. Dont think I would have fared any better at the mart. Also wouldnt have been able to show 2 of them in the mart anyway

whelan2

Cows still out day and night , will be in by the end of the week

Keepgrowing

whelan2 wrote: »

Cows still out day and night , will be in by the end of the week

Cows will all be in by weekend. Will have 100% grazed by Friday. Looking forward to Feb already.

Will do a cover this week but not considered as so much closed should give lots of grass in February.

blackdog1

whelan2 wrote:

Cows still out day and night , will be in by the end of the week

Think I'll get another 2 weeks night and day. Feeding 12-15kg of wholecrop and 2kg in the parlour. Gonna add 3 kg of crimp end of the week and 1 kg of soya in 2 weeks.

Cows holding well at 23 litres 3.65 p 4.38 fat. Going from 14% ration in the parlour to 21% next week when I order.

40% autumn calvers with 50% of them heifers. 15 more cows to calve.

Mooooo

http://edairynews.com/en/the-dairy-industry-lost-420-million-from-a-flaw-in-a-single-bull-49430/

pedigree 6

What's the "proper" way that you're supposed to put the clusters on the cows?

I was thinking about this and I had to watch myself put them on.

I hold the claw piece with my left hand and put on the cups with my right hand on the right hand side teats. Then change hands and hold the claw piece with my right hand and put the cups on the left side teats with my left hand.
I always do it this way regardless of side of pit I'm on.
It's so instinctive that you wouldn't really know which way you do it unless you watch yourself.

GrasstoMilk

Anyone know where I could get a comprehensive list of dry cow tubes licenses for Ireland with there active ingredients?
Turns out our cows are resistant to the dry cow tube we've been using the last half dozen years

pedigree 6

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Anyone know where I could get a comprehensive list of dry cow tubes licenses for Ireland with there active ingredients?
Turns out our cows are resistant to the dry cow tube we've been using the last half dozen years

Deck.
The last test I did with Glanbia they gave a list of tubes and what was in them other than that teagasc or dept maybe?

GrasstoMilk

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Deck.
The last test I did with Glanbia they gave a list of tubes and what was in them other than that teagasc or dept maybe?

Waiting on Shane McElroy to get back to me just want to see can I find anything online
Got that list as well, ubro red dry cow and ubro yellow seems to be the one so far but the one that's really wanted isn't on the list

Buford T. Justice XIX

pedigree 6 wrote: »

What's the "proper" way that you're supposed to put the clusters on the cows?

I was thinking about this and I had to watch myself put them on.

I hold the claw piece with my left hand and put on the cups with my right hand on the right hand side teats. Then change hands and hold the claw piece with my right hand and put the cups on the left side teats with my left hand.
I always do it this way regardless of side of pit I'm on.
It's so instinctive that you wouldn't really know which way you do it unless you watch yourself.

At the left hand line facing the top of the pit, hold cluster with your left hand. Put on back left, front left, front right, back right.

At the right hand side facing fron of the pit, hold cluster in your right hand. Put on back left, front left, front right, back right.

Buford T. Justice XIX

We were talking about hurricane mastitis tubes a while back. Does anyone know what company makes them? My vet just rang back saying they can't locate them.

Brown Podzol

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Anyone know where I could get a comprehensive list of dry cow tubes licenses for Ireland with there active ingredients?
Turns out our cows are resistant to the dry cow tube we've been using the last half dozen years

Look here.

https://www.hpra.ie/homepage/veterinary/veterinary-medicines-information/find-a-medicine

pedigree 6

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

At the left hand line facing the top of the pit, hold cluster with your left hand. Put on back left, front left, front right, back right.

At the right hand side facing fron of the pit, hold cluster in your right hand. Put on back left, front left, front right, back right.

I think I'll stick with the way I'm doing it.:D
Thanks Buford.

Jexbullcalf

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

We were talking about hurricane mastitis tubes a while back. Does anyone know what company makes them? My vet just rang back saying they can't locate them.

Hurricane healthcare in mayo sell them, made by some Dutch crowd. Didn't have great results with them here

Buford T. Justice XIX

Jexbullcalf wrote: »

Hurricane healthcare in mayo sell them, made by some Dutch crowd. Didn't have great results with them here

I can't find them on the website either, unless I am totally blind:(

http://hurricanecattlecare.ie/

Jexbullcalf

Gone off the Dutch crowds website too can't be a good sign!
Hollandanimalcare.nl

Buford T. Justice XIX

Jexbullcalf wrote: »

Gone off the Dutch crowds website too can't be a good sign!
Hollandanimalcare.nl

Ah well. I was going to try it out but looks like I can't now.

On a different note, I was ordering a few replacement tags today (again:mad:) and Mullinahone accepted my money first time out:)

I used always have to go through Verified-by-Visa which never accepted my password and ended up locking my account.

Now that crap seems to be gone:)

Jexbullcalf

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Ah well. I was going to try it out but looks like I can't now.

On a different note, I was ordering a few replacement tags today (again:mad:) and Mullinahone accepted my money first time out:)

I used always have to go through Verified-by-Visa which never accepted my password and ended up locking my account.

Now that crap seems to be gone:)

Snap!! Fcuking verified by visa is the Bain of my life

Water John

The cluster routine is to keep clawpiece in one hand and put on four clusters with the other. Switching hands slows down the operation and also risks a drop or slip with open clusters at risk of intake.
Takes a small bit of practise but it will speed you up.