Elmer Blooker wrote: » I think its worth having a look at the latest Russian atrocity, this is a school with its roof intact and with desks not a centimeter out of place! There even seems to be a school book on one of the desks that withstood the shock waves- amazing! If anyone wants the see the REAL effects of an airstrike find photos of the airstrike by our Saudi allies on a funeral in Yemen. I'm not going to post them as the are too graphic. This atrocity barely made the news in our free and fair media for some reason?http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/1028/827472-syria-school-attack/
Dohnjoe wrote: » No, the jihadists arrived later in the conflict. Assad was butchering his own people long before that
KingBrian2 wrote: » Wrong the butchering only happened after the protests called for the overthrow of the gvt.
alastair wrote: » Ah, that's alright then. :rolleyes:
KingBrian2 wrote: » Tell it to your Washington masters. Those are the people financing the terrorist gangs running amok in Iraq and Syria.
alastair wrote: » Oh dear. The Syrian uprising had nothing to do with Washington. Tell that to your Infowars masters.
KingBrian2 wrote: » Nothing about the infowars and all about Saudi Arabia spreading their warped version of Wahhabi Islam across the region and targeting the people of Syria while at the same time America was backing terrorist organizations like the MB and Sunni terrorists in Iraq.
alastair wrote: » Let's break this down for clarity: 1. There was no ISIS in Syria in 2011. There was no ISIS at all. The ISIS that is now embedded in Syria came from Iraq, and long after the uprising began in Syria. So, so much for the wahhabi role in the uprising. 2. The Muslim Brotherhood got itself elected through a popular mandate in Egypt, and (in it's coalition role) in Iraq. It was not particularly enamoured with, or supported by, the US in either case.
recedite wrote: » I see Russia has been voted off the UN human Rights Council, with their alleged actions in Aleppo cited as a major reason. Their place has been taken by Saudi Arabia. Apparently mass beheadings and bombing the $hit out of neighbouring Yemen is not a problem, so long as they keep professing to be a US ally. You couldn't make this stuff up.
KingBrian2 wrote: » The west don't believe in human rights. It's all for show. the Syrian civilians who are being targeted by ISIS and their accomplices in Damascus, Aleppo, Latakia and elsewhere are quickly forgotten.
alastair wrote: » Just another helpful reminder that the west doesn't actually support ISIS.
Skommando wrote: » It's the same play, different actors . . . . As usual in most wars it's innocent civilians that suffer, while those who crave power and wealth will do anything deplorable they can think of to achieve and hold onto it.
KingBrian2 wrote: » No they only support those as bad when it suits them like the MB. http://europe.newsweek.com/muslim-brotherhood-backers-jail-cairo-riot-515005
alastair wrote: » ISIS are a terrorist organisation, the Muslim Brotherhood are not. ISIS seize territory by force, the Muslim Brotherhood put themselves up for election. Different situations altogether.
KingBrian2 wrote: » The MB are in all matters terrorist. They called on a Jihad, opposed making peace with Israel to the point of being involved in assassinating Sadat and disillusioned followers joined the Egyptian Islamic Jihad. They call for the overthrow of gvt across the Arab world and desire Islam to return to its true origin in Saudi Arabia. Don't take my word for it look at the sermons and ideology they preach. Pretty hard core ****. Another thing for all you admirers of the MB they absolutely despise Shia Islam.
alastair wrote: » They're not a terrorist group. Not proscribed here, not in the UK, not in the EU, not in the USA, not in Israel. Don't take my word for it, look at the list of terrorist groups and see if they show up.
AV277 wrote: » Of course the MB is a terrorist organisation. Can't believe this is being disputed. Their slogan contains 'jihad is our way' and they've proven themselves time and time again to be a very violent organisation. They're not for democracy either. A very unknown fact is that 2 years ago when running for election in Libya they lost out but took control through violent means. This is by all means a dangerous, vile and intolerant group.
KingBrian2 wrote: » And that's the problem is it not. Why are we not proscribing it as a terrorist organization when it most clearly is. People complain about Hamas when it calls for the destruction of the state of Israel. The MB is exactly the same. It would appear it is being used by the USA, UK, EU and Israel in order to inflame Iran, blatantly backing a political party that calls on violence against non Muslims.
AV277 wrote: » Of course I'm 'terrorised' by their slogan. If you actually understand their slogan you will know that their aim is to implement violent, harsh rules on EVERYONE including non Muslims. Some examples include amputating limbs of thieves, whipping of fornicators and death for apostates. These folks are practically a less violent ISIS (to put it nicely). It's difficult to tell if you're trolling or not because I can't believe there's a MB apologist... I don't waste my time with trolls.
alastair wrote: » I'm no apologist for the Muslim Brotherhood, but neither am I someone who pretends that they're a terrorist organisation. They're not - and that's a fact reflected in their absense from the proscribed terrorist group listings in the vast majority of nations worldwide. They're an Islamist organisation who use the electoral system to attain their goals.
KingBrian2 wrote: » Use the electoral system in order to impose Islamism onto the rest of the population more like it. Their ideology is in total contrast with how an electoral system works. Under them minorities and non pure Muslims would face discrimination and a worldwide Jihad would be called for against enemies of the prophet.
