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Phoenix Park tunnel: 4 trains per hour from 2016

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Jamie2k9

tnegun wrote: »

Whats the carraige 071 is hauling @ 2.34?

Old Mark III standard class coach

1huge1

MrMorooka wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZvY-cF1Czg

According to that, its not opening till early next year now.

spacetweek

1huge1 wrote: »

According to that, its not opening till early next year now.

When in the video does it say that?

tnegun

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Old Mark III standard class coach

Sorry for going OT where was it headed? Preservation?

1huge1

spacetweek wrote: »

When in the video does it say that?

12 seconds in the caption.

Jamie2k9

tnegun wrote: »

Sorry for going OT where was it headed? Preservation?

Inchicore, Belmond Grand Hibernian own it now and will either use it or have it for parts.

Jamie2k9

1huge1 wrote: »

12 seconds in the caption.

Defo next month at some stage, not next year.

Harvey Normal

1huge1 wrote: »

12 seconds in the caption.

That's an old video.

ClovenHoof

The woman in the video. Who in CIE is she related to and what happened to King Bull**** aka Barry Kenny?

also, she said the trains end in Connolly when they end in Grand Canal Street.

Nice to see that CIE is still employing mindless thickos as their PR people. Tradition and all that.

Jamie2k9

ClovenHoof wrote: »

The woman in the video. Who in CIE is she related to and what happened to King Bull**** aka Barry Kenny?

also, she said the trains end in Connolly when they end in Grand Canal Street.

Nice to see that CIE is still employing mindless thickos as their PR people. Tradition and all that.

Open your ears, she did not say services would end in Connolly. She was clearing explaining what it was currently been used for.

The offical IE video contains all details about new service and stations.

goingnowhere

The video is mostly a cover up to deny the tunnel was ever used until now

Drumcondra station exists only as a result of the Heuston-North Wall commuter service

The tunnel had daily passenger services until 1980, indeed the last scheduled passenger services were in 2001 on a Sunday, Galway-Dundalk, Limerick-Drogheda to return Mk3 PP sets stolen by the intercity division from suburban

Paddico

So whens it opening.
Thought it would be open by now ....

LXFlyer

Paddico wrote: »

So whens it opening.
Thought it would be open by now ....

No date as yet.

As soon as a date is settled it will be clearly publicised by both the NTA and Irish Rail.

Col_30

She did say in the video early next year, and it's not an old video as she mentioned that the timetables were out for public consultation. Pity it won't be this year

tnegun

What's the delay now?

Jamie2k9

It's opening next month, no delay.

Final works taking place end of month.

ChannelNo5

The service is all ready to go but it is in the lap of the IÉ drivers now. It may not be the end of this month as planned if the drivers use it, say for example, as a bargaining chip for pay negotiations, but there is nothing else stopping IÉ from running this service tomorrow if they want to.

Jamie2k9

ChannelNo5 wrote: »

The service is all ready to go but it is in the lap of the I drivers now. It may not be the end of this month as planned if the drivers use it, say for example, as a bargaining chip for pay negotiations, but there is nothing else stopping I from running this service tomorrow if they want to.

It was never going to be end of month, always November. Its more less ready to go. There is always 6-8 week period between feedback closing and operations starting.

Drivers wouldn't of completed daily train runs since the summer if it was a problem. They are still happening now as far as I know.

trellheim

Speaking as someone very close to the service theres a fair amount of action !

Are there enough drivers trained to run the TT ?

Thrashssacre

http://m.independent.ie/life/home-garden/new-home-view-adamstown-project-rises-from-the-ashes-35128563.html

Quoted as possible opening early next year in this article

"The reopening of the Phoenix Park tunnel is earmarked for the start of 2017 at the latest, which will enable commuter trains from Adamstown to travel directly to the Grand Canal Dock and IFSC."

XPS_Zero

Are they confusing the opening of rush hour services (coming next month) with wider services throughout the day (early next year)?

[Deleted User]

Well that's news to me, though that it was a simple start to service, I never realised that there was going to be a phased commencement of services.

XPS_Zero

The existing timetable seems confined to rush hour. Someone mentioned here that perhaps they might expand it next year that's why I say that.

I've no definite evidence it's being phased in

cowboyjoe

I heard from a IR source that the PPT general start date, November, will probably be pushed back further, as it'll be used as a 'bargaining chip' by drivers for better t's and c's as mentioned above.

Jamie2k9

cowboyjoe wrote: »

I heard from a IR source that the PPT general start date, November, will probably be pushed back further, as it'll be used as a 'bargaining chip' by drivers for better t's and c's as mentioned above.

Driver T&C's have gone to Labor Court so in theory they can't really argue until it comes back?

goingnowhere

Well the existing agreement the drivers has specifically states that there can be no claim for new routes or new technology, its considered to be part of the normal business, i.e. exactly how things are in the private sector.
Unions of course try it on over and over and have been thrown out of the LRC

Thrashssacre

Anyone have any idea why the first "leaked" timetable on Irish rails website was nothing like the one put out for consultation?

[Deleted User]

Thrashssacre wrote: »

Anyone have any idea why the first "leaked" timetable on Irish rails website was nothing like the one put out for consultation?

Probably a test page released by accident.

LXFlyer

Thrashssacre wrote: »

Anyone have any idea why the first "leaked" timetable on Irish rails website was nothing like the one put out for consultation?

As mentioned numerous times in this thread - not enough drivers available yet to operate it.

XPS_Zero

It's uttterly ridiculous that striking over new routes or tech is a thing at all. Pay and conditions are one thing but that?

They seem blissfully unaware that this kind of behaviour gives nothing but ammo to people who want to push privatisation