Keepgrowing wrote: Ah no not now. Was on a farm that came out contract in Dec and got that till spot recovered, they're trying hard to get a contract again. Funny old world that people here hate them so much
Dawggone wrote: » Hmmm. I can only talk about my patch. You must also understand that it's not a level playing pitch as regards nitrates. How many unitsN/acre (inc dero) are you allowed? A lot of shyte as usual being bandied about...especially about milk price. What Coop in France payed/paying 23cpl? Is it a pile of ashes now? I consistently post my *base* price here and it never went to 23cpl... I also quote guaranteed minimum base price 3mts in advance. I've done a bit of farming in Ireland and I can't see any real difference between both countries except one enormous chasm...land price and availability. I also forgot to mention that I harvest 4 to 5tDm/ha of 26-29%pr clovers from every ha of maize ground.
Keepgrowing wrote: » I'm not questioning your price at all but I have a copy of a statement belonging to a northern French farmer who visited us. Land price and availability is our limiting factor. Imagine my surprise when I got a call from a neighbour yesterday morning asking me to graze 50 acres of grass for him. He is a tillage farmer who grassed land instead of putting in grain and sold silage. Went to visit him in afternoon and talk soon got to leasing his whole operation with him as a partner I've not gotten a call like this in a few years. Edit: things just may be changing on the land front
Timmaay wrote: » I'm taking full advantage of the tams2 at the minute and would expect to have a 20unit parlour and winter accommodation for 200cows within 18months. I'm fully happy to take the gamble that by then extra land needed will have sorted itself out ha!
Dawggone wrote: » Hmmm. I can only talk about my patch. You must also understand that it's not a level playing pitch as regards nitrates. How many unitsN/acre (inc dero) are you allowed? A lot of shyte as usual being bandied about...especially about milk price. What Coop in France payed/paying 23cpl? Is it a pile of ashes now? I consistently post my *base* price here and it never went to 23cpl... I also quote guaranteed minimum base price 3mts in advance.I've done a bit of farming in Ireland and I can't see any real difference between both countries except one enormous chasm...land price and availability. I also forgot to mention that I harvest 4 to 5tDm/ha of 26-29%pr clovers from every ha of maize ground.
Dawggone wrote: » Fire up a photo of that statement please. I only know Lactalis suppliers up north, family owned company, that will pay an average of 27.5 (or 28?)cpl +vat base (minimum) for 2016. I'd like to know what Coop got to pay less than a non cooperative. Best of luck with the new lease.
Buford T. Justice V wrote: » There's a big difference between available market also. You have a population of some 66million and a different food culture that prizes taste and home produced. We have a market of 4.7 million and a food culture that equates cheap with excellence. Our systems would never be comparable, imo.
Keepgrowing wrote: » Won't be posting that photo
Dawggone wrote: » Glad you changed your mind from a few months back Tim.
Timmaay wrote: » I actually haven't hugely in one sense. I am still only planning 5years max into the future, any investments need to pay for themselves within 5 or 6years (equivalent to a 20%roi), my exit door is still quite nearby if milk was to flatline at 20c or less etc. Leasing land or going into partnership like KG still leaves my options wayy more open than say buying land and spending 20years paying for itself. Or well being fully honest, I always become utterly sick and tired of farming come late spring, long hours, poor weather, disease problems with calves etc etc. The only solution to this, I will not go one cow over 110cows in total without having a 2nd labour unit of some sort for the springtime.
mf240 wrote: » He lets them out for a hour so he can service the cow scratchers and top up the lava lamps
mf240 wrote: He lets them out for a hour so he can service the cow scratchers and top up the lava lamps
kowtow wrote: » As far as I know he doesn't have to service either of the cow scratchers.. but they do both need a lunch break in the middle of the shift.
Keepgrowing wrote: » My oldest 2 lads Mr 9 and Mr 10 milked the whole herd this evening. I started as they brought in cows, I then went to move breaks and get tomorrow's breaks done. Fed calves and only had to set up parlour for washing. Great chaps 12 rows of cows. Proud Daddy
kowtow wrote: » Just got my milk recording results, which because we don't supply the co-op are actually the first measure we've ever had of what the cows are up to. All cows HO/FR except one RO and all on once a day this year. 80% of the herd 3rd lactation or earlier. SCC overall 161 but a lot of that was one poor old girl at 385, who had been feeding calves and is almost dry. Barely managed to strip a sample of milk from her when the recorder was in. Will have to work a bit on her. Half the herd under 100K which I think is ok for once a day? We're going to go back to twice a day any way next season so not going to get excited. 305 day yield 5707kg, 4.40 F, 3.50P, 4.69 L% (lactose?) Need to get the girls some protein bars. Can't find the pregnancy results on icbf maybe they come separately.
kowtow wrote: None of these have ever had a clinical case of mastitis... would a dry off treatment be the answer or is there anything we can do while still in lactation? Will CMT some quarters tonight to further investigate.
Mooooo wrote: » If you want to try and hang on to them, cmt the quarters find the problem quarter and take a milk sample to the vet to get it tested and see which antibiotic would work best. Other than that when dry off give a long dry period and use a good dry cow tube, again testing the milk is probably the best way but cepravin is a good tube for dry cows. Your scc is very good considering once a day. If there are cows heading for millionaire status on scc the best solution is generally maccy d's
atlantic mist wrote: » i tried tysolin on high scc cows a few years back, didnt get any good of it, we would now double tube any high scc at drying off and have had better results a lot at play with scc - internal infection, weather, temperature, dehydrated, received a puck from team mate, milking process, might be no harm to test again. if a millionaire (SCC) we'd cull straight away, scc of 200 would not worry me to much, ive a few but in comparison to your held ive a lot more cows to dilute figure plus im on a two day collection which helps overall bulk tank sample, they say scc is not impacted by a 2 or 3 day collection but from our experience there is a substantial difference, dont most farmhouse cheeses use the previous days milk? kowtow do you not get every milk batch tested in the cheese making process? How do you know quality by taste?
atlantic mist wrote: » dont most farmhouse cheeses use the previous days milk? kowtow do you not get every milk batch tested in the cheese making process? How do you know quality by taste?
