Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

tippman1 wrote: »

Something completely new for Shannon:

http://www.shannonairport.ie/gns/about-us/latest-news/latest-news/16-10-11/Shannon_Airport_welcomes_new_SAS_service_to_Stockholm.aspx

Great news for the airport, good airline. Something different from the usual Ryanair.

Shannon - Commercial Movements (IAA)

|Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sept|Oct|Nov|Dec|Total
2015|1,253|1,026|1,277|1,454|1,725|2,169|2,058|1,728|1,780|1,645|1,283|1,312|18,710
2016|1,222|1,128|1,390|1,488|1,807|2,031|2,032|1,834|1,839||||
Change|-2.5%|+9.9%|+8.8%|+2.3%|+4.8%|-6.4%|-1.3%|+6.1%|+3.3%||||

SK is quiet a surprise, guessing they have block booking from an operator.

Hopefully it may be extended for Summer 2018.

Carnacalla wrote: »

Hopefully it may be extended for Summer 2018.

It might but it would really prove itself, they scale back on DUB during July and lots of city type routes in favor of Med.

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

It might but it would really prove itself, they scale back on DUB during July and lots of city type routes in favor of Med.

SNN would be more of a touristy destination from a Swedish point of view would it not?,

If not increased in the summer, would an increase into the winter be plausible?

highlydebased

I'm sure the short season is probably something to do with the route proving itself

highlydebased wrote: »

I'm sure the short season is probably something to do with the route proving itself

That was an automatic assumption.

I assume that the August-October schedule is due to Med routes being favoured in June and July?

It seems that the two Aer Lingus Boeing 757-200 aircraft based in Shannon were primarily leased to act as replacement aircraft for Dublin routes.

258 passengers on the Shannon – JFK – Shannon flights were offered a refund or alternative flights as the aircraft was needed for the Dublin – Washington – Dublin instead.

Apparently it was due to circumstances beyond Aer Lingus’ control.

See Clare Herald for more

Brennans Row wrote: »

It seems that the two Aer Lingus Boeing 757-200 aircraft based in Shannon were primarily leased to act as replacement aircraft for Dublin routes.

258 passengers on the Shannon – JFK – Shannon flights were offered a refund or alternative flights as the aircraft was needed for the Dublin – Washington – Dublin instead.

Apparently it was due to circumstances beyond Aer Lingus’ control.

See Clare Herald for more

Just one of them, the other aircraft in Shannon operated Boston, but 2 flights, which is one return flight.

EI-DUO was damaged in MCO a few days ago, so flights are being cancelled here and there. BOS was cancelled from DUB yesterday AFAIK.

Ennisman

SNN-JFK-SNN cancelled Monday.

SNN-BOS-SNN cancelled on Wednesday.

SNN-JFK-SNN chopped for Thursday!! 920 pax affected between all six flights.

Business is business but who loves Dublin more than Shannon??

Aer Lingus cancels more Shannon flights (Clare Herald)

Cosmo Kramer

It will all come down to yield in these situations, if there's a greater loss to be taken by ditching Dublin passengers, they will look after the Dublin passengers at the expense of the Shannon ones. If the affected Shannon services had been producing greater yields than Dublin the opposite would happen. However, 258 passengers for two flights on a B757 suggests that they're not exactly packing out the planes from Shannon, even during a peak tourist season in NY.

In other words, as is always the case, locals need to use the services provided to avoid situations like these arising.

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

It will all come down to yield in these situations, if there's a greater loss to be taken by ditching Dublin passengers, they will look after the Dublin passengers at the expense of the Shannon ones. If the affected Shannon services had been producing greater yields than Dublin the opposite would happen. However, 258 passengers for two flights on a B757 suggests that they're not exactly packing out the planes from Shannon, even during a peak tourist season in NY.

In other words, as is always the case, locals need to use the services provided to avoid situations like these arising.

Didn't know that Mid-October was "peak season". You must write to United, Delta and American, informing them of this, because they peak their services in July/August. Nobody is arguing the lack of yield in Dublin flights, suggesting that people in the midwest make unnecessary trips to NY isn't practical is it? Shannon's flights will never be as high yield as Dublins, hence the different aircraft and schedules available.

The real issue here, is that every little technical fault in the Aer Lingus fleet, results in a flight from SNN being cancelled. Should the fleet continue to grow and a spare aircraft not be readily available, this will become more frequent and reach the point where it seems that the SNN aircrafts are the replacement ones, and that services only run when everything in DUB goes fine.

SAS now have the flights loaded, return fares from under €100 per person.

Aircraft being used is a 737-700/600

Flight Number SK1932 SNN-ARN, SK1931 ARN-SNN.

Balf

Carnacalla wrote: »

The real issue here, is that every little technical fault in the Aer Lingus fleet, results in a flight from SNN being cancelled.

I think this is the issue - and it isn't particularly a DUB/SNN thing. These cancellations seem to be becoming a feature of AL SNN services, which is just a bad thing from an AL customer service point of view.

If AL take a route on, they should at least provide the service. It would be equally wrong if they were frequently cancelling flights on any route.

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

It will all come down to yield in these situations, if there's a greater loss to be taken by ditching Dublin passengers, they will look after the Dublin passengers at the expense of the Shannon ones. If the affected Shannon services had been producing greater yields than Dublin the opposite would happen. However, 258 passengers for two flights on a B757 suggests that they're not exactly packing out the planes from Shannon, even during a peak tourist season in NY.

In other words, as is always the case, locals need to use the services provided to avoid situations like these arising.

In all 927 Shannon passengers are affected (Monday, Wednesday and Thursday).

Don’t forget they have all paid in advance for a planned scheduled flight.

The law of contract seems to be worthless in Ireland if one party can dump the other, in order to maximise their gains from a second contract elsewhere.

highlydebased

Balf wrote:

I think this is the issue - and it isn't particularly a DUB/SNN thing. These cancellations seem to be becoming a feature of AL SNN services, which is just a bad thing from an AL customer service point of view.

For what could sometimes be a marginal route these cancellations could do the services harm if people feel it can't be relied on anymore

They are in a difficult position as transit passengers impacted cost them a fortune. Couple of other factors may be Omni cannot spare the B767 for long enough and some of the typical back up operators EI have used are no longer in a position to operate them.

DUB-IAD Cancelled Fri (I think that the plan), Saturday Full Schedule, Sunday TBA

SNN-JFK cancelled again today.

I did have a bit of sympathy for Aer Lingus at first, now its a bit ridiculous. 900 passengers over 6 flights isn't exactly a bad load either, is it not then responsibility of the airline to hire in an aircraft at this stage? Each one of these cancellations damage the airlines reputation just as the fire damage to the aircraft does (even tho the latter was out of their control).

Deagol

Would have to say, I think I'd be inclined to book Delta if I was flying to JFK in future. EI seem to have shown their usual contempt for customers flying from SNN.

Accordong to Aer Lingus Monday/Wednesday and Thursday cancellations impacted 669 or aroind 112 per flight on average or 64%. If correct there is some lodgic in pulling then.

When you consider if the other US departure had such free capacity many would be easily accommodated.

From the Clare herald

"The airline has been criticised for cancelling a total of six transatlantic services to and from Shannon this week leaving almost 1,000 customers affected."