Dave PP wrote: » Does anyone else think that VW Ireland dropping the performance pack model from its line up was a bad idea considering it accounted for over 60% of GTI sold.
Neilw wrote: » The clubsport replaced the pp gti, anyone know the difference in price between the outgoing pp gti and the clubsport?
Neilw wrote: » What exactly does the clubsport offer above the pp gti for €5k extra? I know it has a bit more power and different styling but is there anything else?
sebastianlieken wrote: » much weight reduction (aluminum sub frame, no rear seats, parcel shelf, smaller battery, lighter driver and passenger recaro seats, less sound deadening, lighter brakes, etc.) New Aero front and rear such that this edition of the golf has no lift at all new mode: comfort - normal - race - *nuremburg* ooohhh overboost function - gives you something like 34 bhp more for 10 seconds uprated fuel pump and sporty exhaust that backfires 'dramatically' under heavy deceleration 10% stiffer spring rates than the standard GTI, along with a stiffer chassis, and stiffer engine mounts - think, more responsive but less comfortable. It comes with more track orientated tires which promise lots of grip* *grip only superior in the dry, super skittish in the wet. get an R with AWD if this makes you nervous. GTI with PP probably wont hold resale value any better than a standard GTI, and a GTI Clubsport will defo hold its value way better than even an R.
kooga wrote: » The red clubsport in blackwater motors cork is priced at 47,137
JoeA3 wrote: » Looking at the product guide... if you want (and you should) upgrade the wheels, it's another €900 at a minimum - for the diamond cut Brescarias. If you'd like the R's pretoria's, well then you might want to be sitting down.... those will cost you 4 grand! Granted they come fitted with semi-slicks but who needs/wants those on a road car? 2 grand for the bucket seats - which do look fantastic, but you lose a few bits to get them (centre armrest, ambient lights...) It's a very very expensive car.
Dave PP wrote: » Agreed, it's very pricey. Too get the most out of it and make it a desirable resale it needs the seats and adjustable damping. dsg or manual is a personal choice but most will go dsg. The price of wheel upgrades is nuts!. Which brings me back to my point that the pp gti was good value and a better car than the 220 version. I've had both and the pp is a steal for a grand extra. VW UK still list all 3 so it's a local marketing decision for Ireland.
douglaslad wrote: » Why should one upgrade the wheels from the standard 18" Belvedere's to the 19" Brescia's or Pretoria's. Pretoria's perhaps at 2kg heavier than the 7.5kg forged Belvedere's but certainly not the lead weight Brescia's at 11.5kg.
carsfan2 wrote: » How come 19" Pretoria alloys can be so cheap on the R and so expensive with the clubsport? The tyres cant be 4 grand worth. Seems strange.
JoeA3 wrote: » Does anyone know what a set of those semi-slicks would cost in a regular tyre shop?
Neilw wrote: » Pilot sport cup tyres are about €250 each.
carsfan2 wrote: » Is dcc, adaptive dampers or adaptive cruise control? The VW website still has the gti pp on the configurator and a load of Passat models that are no longer on sale here either.
Ron Burgundy II wrote: » DCC - Dynamic Chassis Control. Adaptive cruise seems to be standard on a range of golfs. Just saw Joe reply, why isn't the ACC not available on the CS?
JoeA3 wrote: » Something to do with the bumper design. Doesn't fit.
Dave PP wrote: » Adaptive cruise is standard on the CS, front parking sensors are deleted. Take a look at the one one carton, the sensor is clearly there.
