Menoetius wrote: » I don't care whether the issue is discussed or not on here to be honest. Not did I say anywhere that I hope the issues isn't discussed. You know this, now as before, please stop trying to pick a fight with me.
Godge wrote: » If you don't understand the need to promote exercise, social interaction and sport in an urban environment for public health reasons, then there is not a lot more I can do to explain it to you. Someone presented a map with no links and no statistics to back it up. If someone goes to the trouble of posting up the sources for the statistics, then of course it can be debated. If it was just someone dividing the money given to Dublin by the average senior football panel or the number of senior football players in Dublin, then it is a load of hogwash. Until I can find out whether it is anything other than the usual low-level tabloid journalism on the subject, I am happy to ignore it.
Biloxi Blues wrote: » Ah, but the only thing you have "clarified" is that you are unwilling to engage and hope the issue is not discussed and 'justified' it by attacking the character of the poster who has raised the issue.
Menoetius wrote: » No I don't call anyone who brings the topic up as a WUM, a troll, or anything else so let's not go there trying to pick fights again. My point about him being seen as a "WUM" or a "troll" was due to the fact that he is peppering the thread (and others) with the same old point over and over. Every single post he has made here GAA related has been having a dig at Dublin some way or another. He even picked his all star 15 without a single player from the champions on it. Hardly indicating a willingness for reasoned debate. Glad to have clarified
Biloxi Blues wrote: » Interesting that you say that the money given to Dublin, if used for Dublin juveniles, is improving the "country's health outcomes". How is this money, if used for Dublin juveniles, benefiting anyone , juvenile or otherwise, outside Dublin? So why did you refer to the "country"?
Biloxi Blues wrote: » Amongst all that deflection and waffle and insistence that "it's all for the poor childer" you are ignoring that Dublin have received more money PER PLAYER in games development than anybody else. Not just per county (of which they are many multiples the biggest beneficiary of even the second highest beneficiary) but the highest by far PER PLAYER.
Biloxi Blues wrote: » Yes, call anyone who presents the unpalatable facts a WUM. When the Dublin financial doping is brought up at Congress , finally, by a delegate with balls , John Costello should call him a "WUM", a "troll" and say he's actually another person.
Jaden wrote: » If you could link to the data, that would be enough. Thank You.
Nonevernomore wrote: » The figures about games development? Or what figures are you looking for? I can get you links for these.
Menoetius wrote: » No I'm fairly sure it's you posting the same thing over and over on this and other threads. I enjoy reading the threads mostly, only rarely jump in with a post. Make your point by all means, but by repeatedly making the same old point you are ruining it for everyone else. I think the reason people aren't engaging with you is they see you as a WUM as opposed to someone willing to have some reasoned debate. We are all too happy this week to be dragged into a row
Godge wrote: Anyone who has examined this issue understands that the aim of the money that Dublin have is to increase participation in sport at child level with a view to improving the country's health outcomes. It doesn't go into preparation of the senior team, it doesn't go to pay the manager, it is used where it should be used - at juvenile level.
Godge wrote: » All you have done is be provocative. Anyone who has examined this issue understands that the aim of the money that Dublin have is to increase participation in sport at child level with a view to improving the country's health outcomes. It doesn't go into preparation of the senior team, it doesn't go to pay the manager, it is used where it should be used - at juvenile level. You are trying to prove a causal link between investment at juvenile level and success at senior level. If that was the case then in another sport, say soccer, Crewe Alexandra and West Ham United would be fighting for top spot in the Premiership every year. The money does what it does - increase participation at juvenile level. If some other county comes up with a coherent programme to do that, they will get the required finance to do it too, Dublin will always get more because there are more kids in Dublin, and GAA facilities are historically underdeveloped in Dublin.
Nonevernomore wrote: » I didn't think it was the same Dublin posters who post over and over again. I'd be interested in a Dublin supporters point of view on the issue. All I've got so far is people ignoring it and deflecting. Why is that? And if that's all that's ever going to come from bringing that up here then of course I won't be posting about it.
Nonevernomore wrote: » I can't post links so I just put a space between the first w and the second w. I thought it would be easy to work out but there ya go! Also there seems to be a common theme amongst Dub supporters when this issue comes up. They try to laugh it off, I think this quote sums it up! It's not always the tears that measure the pain, sometimes it's the smile we fake.
Nonevernomore wrote: » The issue that just won't go away: w ww.thetimes.co.uk/article/dublins-predictable-win-makes-gaa-the-big-loser-lp5g7sszz?shareToken=7d3f35746e3ce56fc91a1a4b641db378
GAAman wrote: » Folks I'm looking for a bit of info on some of the backroom lads here if anyone knows who they are and what they do. Back row, from left (5) Front row, from left (10) Cheers lads!
Gael85 wrote: » Is that James Brogan beside Jim Gavin. Think he does stats.I believe Jim Gavin father is in front row 10th from the left.
GAAman wrote: » Folks I'm looking for a bit of info on some of the backroom lads here if anyone knows who they are and what they do. Back row, from left (2, 5, 6) Front row, from left (4, 10) Cheers lads!
