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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

Timmaay

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

All farming sectors go through difficult periods and during such times there may need to be changes in how threads are moderated.

Dairy threads are going to be more closely monitored and subject to stricter moderation for a while.

To that end we won’t tolerate baiting of posters, constantly reviving old arguments, posters with agendas or crusading for a cause.

Whether it’s discussion of the business or politics of the dairy or other sectors, we expect civility and tolerance toward each other and other opinions as diversity of opinion is needed as a source of different ways of looking at a situation.

"The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert

Also please be aware that what you may post as light-hearted banter can be read totally differently by someone adversely affected by the subject matter and evoke a reaction you hadn’t intended.

The ‘Off-Season’ forum, and its anonymous posting, is available for anyone to chat about their situation.

The Mod Team.

10 away from the 10000 posts! Frazz I think it's fair to say this thread has been a success!

Indeed it was! First thread can be found here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056872221

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RedPeppers

Cows in here tonight lashing from the heavens. They ran in the shed after milking been feeding them good quality bales of silage in wet spells over past few weeks. Awful early to be eating into winter suppliers but needs must

whelan2

Of the last 10 calves born 9 have been angus bulls, 1 heifer. Glad they aren't friesians

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

Of the last 10 calves born 9 have been angus bulls, 1 heifer. Glad they aren't friesians

Santa sorted so;)

Water John

Buford, you reckon they'll be strong enough to pull the sleigh?

Buford T. Justice XIX

Water John wrote: »

Buford, you reckon they'll be strong enough to pull the sleigh?

Plenty of new milk into them while it's still cheap:pac:

kowtow

If there is one time of year I really miss in Switzerland it's the first week of October.

Water John

I suppose you wandered north over the border in Sept too for the beer festival?

kowtow

Water John wrote: »

I suppose you wandered north over the border in Sept too for the beer festival?

not for a long while, but maybe once or twice in my rather long and misspent youth

Actually it's not just the return of the cows which makes Switzerland great at this time of year - it's the season of "chasse" - hunting food - wild mountain game, venison, red onions, wild mushrooms ... some of the finest cooking in the world and very rarely written about or known outside the villages. The season only lasts a few weeks from about now until the snow line moves down to the village level and then it's fondue time for a few months.

The fact that red meat is rare in the Swiss mountain diet makes this time of year all the more special.

mahoney_j

kowtow wrote: »

If there is one time of year I really miss in Switzerland it's the first week of October.

Aghh thecreturn of the cows from the mountain pre winter .seen it in mayrhofen ;Austria .

Buford T. Justice XIX

The IGA spring dairy conference booking forms just came in the door. It's on in Kilkenny on Jan 18th.

http://www.irishgrassland.com/Events-and-Reviews/post-detail.asp?postId=4305

I can imagine there will be one or two lads from here in Kilkenny for the day;)

Karina Pierce from UCD will be presenting a section on the high yield, high stocking rate trials in Lyons Estate on the day as well.

wats the craic

anyone else cutting silage bales this week . a good bit around us cut or going to cut before the weekend

whelan2

wats the craic wrote: »

anyone else cutting silage bales this week . a good bit around us cut or going to cut before the weekend

mowed yesterday being baled on Friday :eek:

freedominacup

wats the craic wrote: »

anyone else cutting silage bales this week . a good bit around us cut or going to cut before the weekend

A lot of mowing going on in this area. There wasn't as much activity some days in May.

whelan2

freedominacup wrote: »

A lot of mowing going on in this area. There wasn't as much activity some days in May.

Was a great day today

Mooooo

Feck ye anyway I'm gone tight on grass here. Bitch of an in calf heifer is constantly breaking wire as well and ain't helping the situation and I can't figure out which one it is.

Water John

The experts will be telling us all we are wasting money baling this grass. That we got our building up of grass all wrong.
If weather breaks further in a few weeks, they will all be eaten.

whelan2

Water John wrote: »

The experts will be telling us all we are wasting money baling this grass. That we got our building up of grass all wrong.
If weather breaks further in a few weeks, they will all be eaten.

Everyone tries to do the best with what they have, there are no experts

Mooooo

Strange year, even just from on here, lads with maize in the pit, others baling grass in Oct and and others still with unharvested grain in fields

Water John

I should have put 'experts' in inverted commas.
I made bales on Sunday. Delighted to have them.
Better than a ball of snow next March.

whelan2

Better to make the bales on the fields now than looking at a very high cover all winter that mightnt be able to be grazed until April

moneyheer

whelan2 wrote: »

Better to make the bales on the fields now than looking at a very high cover all winter that mightnt be able to be grazed until April

very true. Hard to poach concrete ☺

kowtow

Water John wrote: »

The experts will be telling us all we are wasting money baling this grass. That we got our building up of grass all wrong.
If weather breaks further in a few weeks, they will all be eaten.

Or stood on to keep heads above water.

kowtow

We mowed this evening as well, for a third cut that I should have taken in August.

Whats the best form for this late grass? Is it worth tedding and extra wrap as we do with the early cuts or should we just leave it down, bale it up and wrap it lightly on the basis that it's never going to be rocket fuel?

mf240

You can never have too much silage.

mf240

kowtow wrote: »

We mowed this evening as well, for a third cut that I should have taken in August.

Whats the best form for this late grass? Is it worth tedding and extra wrap as we do with the early cuts or should we just leave it down, bale it up and wrap it lightly on the basis that it's never going to be rocket fuel?

I wouldn't think there's any need for extra plastic.

kevthegaff

mf240 wrote:

You can never have too much silage.

Unless you have a small slab and a big sfp..

freedominacup

mf240 wrote: »

I wouldn't think there's any need for extra plastic.

I wouldn't be skimping on it either though. Standard application. The drier the better within reason. Biggest complaint always with late season silage is how soft (wet really) the material is. Can be very hard to preserve as sugars aren't what they should be. Less weight will give you more sugar per kilo for preservation I think.

Buford T. Justice XIX

mf240 wrote: »

You can never have too much silage.

My BIL farms heavy ground and keeps a spare years silage in the yard. When the silage stock drops in a bad year, he drops stock numbers and cuts more silage until it's back up again..

Water John

Yeah, drying at this time is important. Great wind ATM.
I cut Sat and ended up baling Sun because of Mon weather. The swarth dried remarkably after mower/conditioner.
Just rayed in on Sun. Bales sitting up nicely.

kowtow

anyone got any idea how long milk recording results take from recording to showing up on ICBF (or whatever)?