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Australians starting to see through the fiction!?

Sam Quentin

http://www.breakingnews.ie/showbiz/irish-people-applying-for-jobs-in-australia-told-we-only-hire-australians-757817.html Doesn't surprise me at all, talking to one guy who was back here for a break, sacked one of his friends because of alcohol related issues and he has issued numerous warnings... Like wtf, sounds like London back in the 80s!? only problem being! your nearly 10,000mls from anyone who gives a sheeeet :mad:

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bodhrandude

What?

Jesus.

Not surprised. There's a lot of clowns out there pissing it up and another gang (travellers) going around scamming people out of loads of money. Our reputation is not good out there.

Sam Quentin

bodhrandude wrote: »

What?

Ps: If your an alcoholic or heavy drinker!? you will not understand or have any empathy towards my post.

Jesus.

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Ps: If your an alcoholic or heavy drinker!? you will not understand or have any empathy towards my post.

I am both but I do

bodhrandude

Yeah my bad read the link and see where your coming from.

Sam Quentin

Jesus. wrote: »

I am both but I do

Well that's something(sorry to hear btw), so you know what I'm getting at, about young Irish lads treating emigration as a lonnnnnnnnng holiday of sorts :mad:

duffman13

If you have a construction or medical background you can do well out there on a working holiday visa. The restrictions on the visa (max 6 months with one employer) is why employers advertise for permanent residents only (I've never seen a job advertised for Australians only) This restriction means a lot of people have to work in customer service jobs that the Australians don't want.

A lot of people got out there with a degree and no experience and expect to be given a great job when the reality is far different. That being said a customer service jobs (call centre work) can pay upwards of 27 dollars an hour. Also people on a working holiday visa are extremely unreliable.

Sam Quentin

duffman13 wrote: »

If you have a construction or medical background you can do well out there on a working holiday visa. The restrictions on the visa (max 6 months with one employer) is why employers advertise for permanent residents only (I've never seen a job advertised for Australians only) This restriction means a lot of people have to work in customer service jobs that the Australians don't want.

A lot of people got out there with a degree and no experience and expect to be given a great job when the reality is far different. That being said a customer service jobs (call centre work) can pay upwards of 27 dollars an hour. Also people on a working holiday visa are extremely unreliable.

That's all well and good,, but going by what my contact is telling me 27$ an hour sounds like 'bread-line'. He gave me a run down of>>rent, groceries, clothing etc etc>>serious money..... Anyway I'm more interested in the psyche of the Irish when they move away from Mammy, apparently the girls are nothing to be proud of either!?

ChunkyLover54

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Ps: If your an alcoholic or heavy drinker!? you will not understand or have any empathy towards my post.

This makes no sense. Have you drink taken?

ChunkyLover54

Jesus. wrote: »

Not surprised. There's a lot of clowns out there pissing it up and another gang (travellers) going around scamming people out of loads of money.

They deserve to be sentenced to a booting.

Realt Dearg Sec

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Ps: If your an alcoholic or heavy drinker!? you will not understand or have any empathy towards my post.

Yeah it's everyone else's fault we can't understand you.

duffman13

Sam Quentin wrote: »

That's all well and good,, but going by what my contact is telling me 27$ an hour sounds like 'bread-line'. He gave me a run down of>>rent, groceries, clothing etc etc>>serious money..... Anyway I'm more interested in the psyche of the Irish when they move away from Mammy, apparently the girls are nothing to be proud of either!?

If someone is earning 850 dollars a week after tax feels they are on the breadline they are drinking too much. I lived 15 mins from Melbourne CBD, was paying 190 for a room, 60-100 a week for groceries, 40 for unlimited transport. Bills were included in my rent. I had half my wages left for entertainment or saving.

Even if I wanted just a one bedroom apartment just for me I'd still have 250 a week for myself, an apartment share makes way more financial sense though.

Sam Quentin

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Ps: If your an alcoholic or heavy drinker!? you will not understand or have any empathy towards my post.

ChunkyLover54 wrote: »

This makes no sense. Have you drink taken?

Ahhhh here we go, listen>>> would you ever go away and bury yourself in denial and let the adults worry about the Irish reputation abroad....

Sam Quentin

duffman13 wrote: »

If someone is earning 850 dollars a week after tax feels they are on the breadline they are drinking too much. I lived 15 mins from Melbourne CBD, was paying 190 for a room, 60-100 a week for groceries, 40 for unlimited transport. Bills were included in my rent. I had half my wages left for entertainment or saving.

Even if I wanted just a one bedroom apartment just for me I'd still have 250 a week for myself, an apartment share makes way more financial sense though.

An apartment share.. Yeah sounds just like the 'apartments' in Kilburn North London back in the 80s lol.. Is that really a life

Canis Lupus

Sam Quentin wrote: »

An apartment share.. Yeah sounds just like the 'apartments' in Kilburn North London back in the 80s lol.. Is that really a life

Except it's not. LINK

That's just around where I live in Brisbane. Complete slums right?

foggy_lad

Sam Quentin wrote: »

An apartment share.. Yeah sounds just like the 'apartments' in Kilburn North London back in the 80s lol.. Is that really a life

It's only for 6 months maximum though, not like you're going to raise a family in it.

People nowadays are too sensitive and too soft regarding living spaces etc, I remember living in places where the washing machine was the bathroom sink and a box of handwashing powder. That would never be acceptable today.

Sam Quentin

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Except it's not. LINK

That's just around where I live in Brisbane. Complete slums right?

They're nice

Advbrd

So from the article linked we have “we only hire Australians” followed further down by "they know that the Irish are the best workers”. That does not make sense.
Not sure what the reference to "alcoholic or heavy drinker" is about. There is no reference to drink in the linked article apart from “They paint this picture of ‘it’s all cocktails and beaches’ but it’s really not". They could have just as easily said "its all milk and honey".

brandnewaward

that documentary sounds like its gonna be a heap of ****e .the pic on the article where the two boys are standing was taken in the cross. no doubt there will be plenty of footage of the boys living it up in O Malleys , probably the scummiest pub in the southern hemisphere.

The_Valeyard

Many Australians were racist? News to me...

duffman13

Sam Quentin wrote: »

An apartment share.. Yeah sounds just like the 'apartments' in Kilburn North London back in the 80s lol.. Is that really a life

Any apartment share, yeah there was 3 of us in a 3 bedroom apartment, two minute walk from a train station, the apartment is a new build. You seem to want to make a comparison to London which doesn't exist. Your contact is filling you full of **** by the sounds of it, get on the ground and have a look around and see for yourself

kneemos

Jesus. wrote: »

Not surprised. There's a lot of clowns out there pissing it up and another gang (travellers) going around scamming people out of loads of money. Our reputation is not good out there.

So Irish people.

Noo

Sam Quentin wrote: »

An apartment share.. Yeah sounds just like the 'apartments' in Kilburn North London back in the 80s lol.. Is that really a life

Yeah because renting in Dublin is such value for money.

Billy86

Sam Quentin wrote: »

That's all well and good,, but going by what my contact is telling me 27$ an hour sounds like 'bread-line'. He gave me a run down of>>rent, groceries, clothing etc etc>>serious money..... Anyway I'm more interested in the psyche of the Irish when they move away from Mammy, apparently the girls are nothing to be proud of either!?

$27 an hour? Breadline? That's just north of $50,000 a year! What planet is this contact from? I was on less than that an buying fillet steak and lobster when the mood struck - and no, that is not hyperbolic! Fillet steak in Paddy's Market, and lobster from the fish market. You can get a decent steak or chicken parmesan dinner out most nights of the week for $10, with a side salad and mash or chips included - not just in dingy spots either, good places on Darling Harbour etc.

I was on min wage for most of it (sales job so I earned a good bit in commission on top but saved about 90% of that for when I came home). That was $21.82 a week, if I recall $770 over a 35 hour week, $660ish after tax. Rent and bills were about $220ish a week (they do weekly rent over there, not monthly) first in Surry Hills and then in a lovely place in Kingsford, both with two other roommates. The public transport pass covered all trains, buses and ferries, and if I recall cost about $40. Factor in phone credit, household items like bog roll, bin bags etc and I still had about $375 or so disposable income per week. Again, on min wage without even touching my commission!

If people want to go out on the cheap, there are places that do $2-3 drinks until late, and that usually extended to a good 2-3 beer brands, 2-3 wines, and 2-3 types of spirits. Cheap booze and usually (not always!) in dives granted, but the fact is you could go out somewhere decent for a steak dinner after work, then go for 4-5 drinks after, and not even go through one hour's worth of wages.

Food shopping is reasonably expensive there, but not obscene. I've been cooking for myself since I was about 6 so had an advantage, but I kept pushing it on people and still do - google is basically an infinitely huge cookbook, and you can eat very well on very little money in most places if you know how to cook for yourself, rather than eating out all the time or buying overpriced ready meals/frozen pizzas etc. You can make your own 9" cheese pizza for less than a dollar for example and top it off with whatever is in the fridge, or a big pot of bolognese for about $1-1.25 per portion and so on. But even for those too lazy for that, you have $375 a week to feed yourself on - that's about $75 a day when a steak dinner costs $10!!!

The people complaining about not having a penny to scratch together in Australia were a mix of those working part time only, those who insisted on going to the ultra expensive nightclubs 3-4 times a week every single week, people who loved to spend half the nights coked out of their brains or on pills

As for the Irish having a bad reputation over there or the psyche, I was sheepish as f*ck when I arrived and almost apologetic to them because of us having that reputation... almost every single Aussie was confused as nothing else about what the hell I was talking about? It's over blown self pitying nonsense by and large, spread by people who go to live in the likes of 'Irish/British backpacker ghettos' like Bondi or St. Kilda, insist on only going to Irish bars, only wind up hanging around with Irish people (and maybe the token Brit or two), typically working for Irish people, etc etc and basically do everything they can to ensure that they might as well have stayed at home and turned up the temperature. Then they turn around and say "the Aussies don't even want to know us!" and play the victim card. Also, Aussie employers tend to love Irish and British workers, we've got an excellent work ethic according to most of them.

Absolute bullsh*t, that is. I'm not joking when I say I had more bad run ins with Irish people giving out about me mixing with Aussies, than I did from Aussies giving me grief for being Irish - the latter of which happened to me exactly once. There was plenty of 'banter' bullsh*t but that's just how they are, it's very rare that it's coming from a bad place with them. Also Australian women absolutely live up their reputation of being stunning, and absolutely love the Irish accent.

In Canada I saw people struggling to make ends meet on their working holiday visas quite regularly, where prices are about the same but min wage is $11/hr. Australia (min wage $21.82)? Not a chance! Anyway sorry, I've gone off on a bit of a rant.

Advbrd

So, steak and lobster, cheap drinks, reasonable minimum wage, nice people, stunning women, sunshine etc.... sounds like a sh1thole to me.

Billy86

brandnewaward wrote: »

that documentary sounds like its gonna be a heap of ****e .the pic on the article where the two boys are standing was taken in the cross. no doubt there will be plenty of footage of the boys living it up in O Malleys , probably the scummiest pub in the southern hemisphere.

Trying to run through my mind... is there anywhere in the Cross that isn't horrific? :pac:

Feck though, this thread now has me missing Manly, The Rocks & Harry's Pies.

brandnewaward

Billy86 wrote: »

Trying to run through my mind... is there anywhere in the Cross that isn't horrific? :pac:

Feck though, this thread now has me missing Manly, The Rocks & Harry's Pies.

Harrys!!!!!

The cross is all but closed up now really.
kings cross hotel and the sugarmill is still going but everything in between on that side of the road is gone

Billy86

Advbrd wrote: »

So, steak and lobster, cheap drinks, reasonable minimum wage, nice people, stunning women, sunshine etc.... sounds like a sh1thole to me.

The steak and lobster was a serious find!

Paddy's Market is a massive food market in their CBD, very famous in Sydney. Thing is, it's closed Mon-Wed, so if you go on a Sunday you can get potatoes, tomatoes, etc at $1-2/kg, fruit at similar prices, fillet steak at $25 (and it's good stuff straight off the loin, not pre cut or anything)... and then down in the Sydney fish markets about a 20 min walk from there you can get all sorts of fish at incredibly low prices. If I recall, the lobsters were $4 each - small ones yeah, but not overly so.

Of course more Irish people would know this if they talked to the locals a bit more!!

Honestly though, both there and in Canada Irish people living abroad really can be incredibly insular.

Billy86

brandnewaward wrote: »

Harrys!!!!!

The cross is all but closed up now really.
kings cross hotel and the sugarmill is still going but everything in between on that side of the road is gone

Wow really? Had no idea! I worked briefly at 100 William St (the Westfield sign between Hyde Park and the Coca Cola sign), can't say I'll miss much of those spots so good riddance.

But if you want the mightiest pie of them all, go to Hamlet's on the Manly corso. There are no words!! They also sell (or as of 2012, sold) them frozen to take home and pop in the oven when you want. I'd advise you to bring a suitcase.

brandnewaward

yeah , i lived across the road for a bit on william street. working in the lord Roberts on Stanley street for the past 3 years part time. love that area.

cheers for the tip , Im well overdue a trip out to Manly soon...
haha, must try and watch this documentary and see how BS it actually is , might be worth a giggle