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Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

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eastmayo

happyoutscan wrote: »

Just got a text that Clarke has retired. Can't confirm yet for definite

I heard that this eve.....I hope it's not true.

Alqua

happyoutscan wrote: »

Just got a text that Clarke has retired. Can't confirm yet for definite

No no no no no no no no.. please no.

km79

happyoutscan wrote: »

Just got a text that Clarke has retired. Can't confirm yet for definite

I said yday that the decision to drop him could be even more costly for us next year !

seligehgit

happyoutscan wrote: »

Just got a text that Clarke has retired. Can't confirm yet for definite

I heard earlier on today that he had walked away.:( Terribly sad if true.

TCDStudent1

Who is Mayo's 3rd goalkeeper on the panel?

Panrich

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Who is Mayo's 3rd goalkeeper on the panel?

I'd say Matthew Flanagan from the U 21 team will be next in line.

seligehgit

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Who is Mayo's 3rd goalkeeper on the panel?

Not entirely sure if we've a third goalkeeper in the panel...Kenneth O Malley from Ballinrobe was oftentimes in the mix.

I'd imagine Balla's Matthew Flanagan will see some action FBD action again next year.

seligehgit

Mayo GAA National Football League Division 1 Fixtures 2017

Round 1 Mayo v Monaghan, Saturday 4th February (7pm, McHale Park).

Round 2 Kerry v Mayo, Saturday 11th February (7pm, Fitzgearld Stadium, Killarney).

Round 3 Mayo v Roscommon, Saturday 25th February (7pm, McHale Park).

Round 4 Dublin v Mayo, Saturday 4th March (7pm, Croke Park).

Round 5 Mayo v Cavan, Sunday 19th March (2pm, McHale Park).

Round 6 Tyrone v Mayo, Sunday 26th March (2.30pm, Healy Park Omagh).

Round 7 Mayo v Donegal, Sunday 2nd April (3pm, McHale Park).

TCDStudent1

seligehgit wrote: »

Mayo GAA National Football League Division 1 Fixtures 2017

Round 1 Mayo v Monaghan, Saturday 4th February (7pm, McHale Park).

Round 2 Kerry v Mayo, Saturday 11th February (7pm, Fitzgearld Stadium, Killarney).

Round 3 Mayo v Roscommon, Saturday 25th February (7pm, McHale Park).

Round 4 Dublin v Mayo, Saturday 4th March (7pm, Croke Park).

Round 5 Mayo v Cavan, Sunday 19th March (2pm, McHale Park).

Round 6 Tyrone v Mayo, Sunday 26th March (2.30pm, Healy Park Omagh).

Round 7 Mayo v Donegal, Sunday 2nd April (3pm, McHale Park).

What do you think Mayo's approach to the league will be? I suspect they may take it a bit more seriously next year.

PressRun

seligehgit wrote: »

Mayo GAA National Football League Division 1 Fixtures 2017

Round 1 Mayo v Monaghan, Saturday 4th February (7pm, McHale Park).

Round 2 Kerry v Mayo, Saturday 11th February (7pm, Fitzgearld Stadium, Killarney).

Round 3 Mayo v Roscommon, Saturday 25th February (7pm, McHale Park).

Round 4 Dublin v Mayo, Saturday 4th March (7pm, Croke Park).

Round 5 Mayo v Cavan, Sunday 19th March (2pm, McHale Park).

Round 6 Tyrone v Mayo, Sunday 26th March (2.30pm, Healy Park Omagh).

Round 7 Mayo v Donegal, Sunday 2nd April (3pm, McHale Park).

Trip to Killarney! Good stuff! Will probably make a weekend of that.

Fowler87

Kumejima wrote: »

Kerryman here, just looking through the thread, lots of criticism and recriminations of management certain players etc. Its very harsh I feel. Mayo management did a fine job this year - no other county were anywhere near as good at shackling Dublin. But for freak bad luck on the first day and a freakishly bad day at the office for Rob Hennelley the last day, Mayo would be champions, and very worthy ones at that. I've been lucky enough to grow up through the late 70s onwards as we've enjoyed a lot of success. I've seen great teams who all had something, our boys in the golden years were just awesomely talented, The Meath team of the early 90s a great never say die team, the Tyrone lads the fiercest competitors, our naughties bunch were very talented, if lacking the killer instinct of the previous great Kerry team. This current Dublin team are probably the most composed and professional I've seen, with certainly the best management team and ethos that draws the best out of them.

I think this team are becoming a very special team of players. All the other teams mentioned, great and all as they are, never have been tested and tortured by our game like this current bunch of Mayo lads. For a team to suffer the heartbreak of losing an All-Ireland twice in succession - it would have finished quite a few teams off. For them to then lose two replayed All-Ireland semi-finals in the cruellest of ways is devastating. Yet these lads dust themselves off and go again. To be only separated by 1 point after 160-odd minutes from an apparently invincible Dublin team is some achievement.

This is a team that you can see will no longer bend the knee, will not take a step back, will not submit to defeat, and would die rather than give in. In truth, watching the game, it didn't feel like Dublin beat Mayo, only the clock did. You knew Mayo were coming back but Dublin have a handy knack of being ahead when the ref blows it up as we know to our cost lately here in the Kingdom.

You are so, so close to the line. I saw it in Dublin in 2011 in the league - they had run out of ways to lose and winning the All Ireland was an inevitability. I avoided going to the final as I didn't want to witness Dublin defeat us. Mayo are now I believe at that point.
If they can come back next year undaunted, they will be by far the most courageous team I have ever seen play the game. What have they to fear from defeat when it has thrown its worst at them and they refuse to yield. The only comparison I can draw is not with sport but with the exploits of Shackleton and Crean, who never gave up despite the harshest of setbacks. This is a team of goddam heroes and I, as a football fan, am immensely proud of them. Maigh Eo Abu.

Mighty post. Proud of this team too. The best squad of footballers our county has ever seen. The below quote really does sum them up. We will win an All Ireland soon.

seligehgit

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

What do you think Mayo's approach to the league will be? I suspect they may take it a bit more seriously next year.

I'd imagine they will and I'd like to see them to head to Croker and come out with a win on Saturday March 4th!Really looking forward to that trip.

Moo Moo Land

Kumejima wrote: »

The only comparison I can draw is not with sport but with the exploits of Shackleton and Crean, who never gave up despite the harshest of setbacks.

Ah here, neither Shackleton nor Crean ever got to the South Pole!

Mayo might and should win an All Ireland.

km79

seligehgit wrote: »

I'd imagine they will and I'd like to see them to head to Croker and come out with a win on Saturday March 4th!Really looking forward to that trip.

I actually think it's VITAL we beat the dubs in the league now. the games without a win ober them are adding up now

TCDStudent1

seligehgit wrote: »

I'd imagine they will and I'd like to see them to head to Croker and come out with a win on Saturday March 4th!Really looking forward to that trip.

Be quite an occasion alright. It could bring on Mayo if they actually went & won the league I think. Thats why I feel it might be a good idea to just go for aggressively for the league. I think Dublin may have to experiment more in next year's league too. They played very strong teams from the start this year.

seligehgit

Nice to have two Saturday night games under the floodlights in McHale Park.

I do think it's likely they'll take the league very seriously next year and a win against Dublin is long over due.

Can't believe it but it's not that far away!

Crybabygeeks

I have to say something tonight. The positivity and enthusiasm is brilliant and infectious! We are already looking forward to the league.... bring it on!! That's why Mayo will keep coming back. We don't know how to do anything else..

I hope the players and management will take the necessary time for themselves over the next few months and then like us, regroup and go for it again.

[Deleted User]

Like everyone else I'm gutted, and I have no interest in re-watching it to find out why or how or when it was lost

I'm just looking forward to 2017 and once again thankful to be living in one of the most prolific periods in the history of Mayo football

A lot of credit has to go Rochford for what he and his team have done this season.
Defensively they seems to have solved the problem of leaking goals, the job for 2017 should now be to get the forwards sorted out, they could have done a lot better on Saturday.

I always thought this team would get to the final and that the pressure was on them to do so after what happened this time last year,and they did get there, but 2017 should now be free of that baggage.

I don't want to see any of the following playing much in the league, Keith Higgins, Lee Keegan, Colm Boyle, Donie Vaughan, Seamus O' Shea, Aiden O' Shea, Tom Parsons, Kevin McLaughlin, Jason Doherty, Ciliian O'Connor, Andy Moran, Barry Moran.
We know well what they can do, we need to see what other guys can do, and if that means relegation,so be it, it needs to be done.

Back in June at the Galway game I though what I had feared was coming true, that these guys just had enough of the hard slog to do it another year, but I was wrong.
I just hope they have it in them for 2017, because in 2017 that route to the final is no more or less difficult that it just was.

And finally on the Clarke retirement rumor that is going around, if he is gone then so be it, thanks for your service Dave but now it's just next man up, lets not dwell on it.

A few years back a high profile player retired because he was dropped for a final and that has not affected anyone.

[Deleted User]

PressRun wrote: »

Trip to Killarney! Good stuff! Will probably make a weekend of that.

It will be in Tralee, no lights in Killarney, unless they plan on putting them in this winter

Padkir

seligehgit wrote: »

Mayo GAA National Football League Division 1 Fixtures 2017

Round 1 Mayo v Monaghan, Saturday 4th February (7pm, McHale Park).

Round 2 Kerry v Mayo, Saturday 11th February (7pm, Fitzgearld Stadium, Killarney).

Round 3 Mayo v Roscommon, Saturday 25th February (7pm, McHale Park).

Round 4 Dublin v Mayo, Saturday 4th March (7pm, Croke Park).

Round 5 Mayo v Cavan, Sunday 19th March (2pm, McHale Park).

Round 6 Tyrone v Mayo, Sunday 26th March (2.30pm, Healy Park Omagh).

Round 7 Mayo v Donegal, Sunday 2nd April (3pm, McHale Park).

Are those confirmed? I know that fixtures were announced a couple of weeks back as provisional.

seligehgit

Opinions on the likelihood of the backroom team staying on?Donie Buckley,Tony McEntee,Sean Carey...Maurice Horan,Barry Solan.Donie has been on board for 5 years plus,long trips from Ennis.McEntee has a nice round trip from Crossmaglen.

PressRun

Wouldn't be surprised if Donie left. Would prefer if he stayed though.

seligehgit

Padkir wrote: »

Are those confirmed? I know that fixtures were announced a couple of weeks back as provisional.

Presuming they are provisional but I can't imagine they'll change.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057647269

LeoB

Well the dust is settling now on what must have been a few torturous days.

Had an interesting chat with a fairly level headed reader of the game this morning. One thing he said which I found interesting was. He met a lot of Mayo people before the game and there was not much buzz about them, they seemed a little flat. Apart from when Keegan scored the goal when the roof near came off Croke park he felt there was a tension, a nervousness among the fans. He felt this could have effected Mayo players. I could understand that feeling and the possibility of how it could effect players. I know from 30+ years being involved with teams tensions or negativity elsewhere can creep in to a group no matter how hard we try to protect them. Any views?

The other thing he said was interesting. He felt that Cluxton had his most important game for Dublin in years. His kick outs were superb be they short or Long. Dublin only lost 2 long kick outs iirc? Nobody expected his kickouts that went long to be so accurate. Because the talk was on the opposite #1 his contribution was somewhat overlooked.

The other points lads made at work were the goalkeeping switch lads got but it just didnt work. But they felt Mayo should have put Boyle or Harrison on Connolly. Keegan had far more to offer to the team by attacking as opposed to defending. What Keegan brings to the overall game very few other do and going forward when Mayo needed it he was or would have been better option.

As time has moved on I feel very sorry for both Keepers. Some of the stuff said about Hennelly is totally wrong. Lads like him are going back to their families, and clubs, back to try and earn a living. Clarke I can understand if he walks away. He got some kick in rocks.

At the end of the day all these lads off both sides are ordinary fellas not getting paid who put their lives on hold for us all to go and see to laud if they win and criticise if they lose. But each and every one of them are great sportsmen, great men every GAA supporter can be proud of them all.

Best of luck to all in the club Championship and roll on 2017

TCDStudent1

LeoB wrote: »

Well the dust is settling now on what must have been a few torturous days.

Had an interesting chat with a fairly level headed reader of the game this morning. One thing he said which I found interesting was. He met a lot of Mayo people before the game and there was not much buzz about them, they seemed a little flat. Apart from when Keegan scored the goal when the roof near came off Croke park he felt there was a tension, a nervousness among the fans. He felt this could have effected Mayo players. I could understand that feeling and the possibility of how it could effect players. I know from 30+ years being involved with teams tensions or negativity elsewhere can creep in to a group no matter how hard we try to protect them. Any views?

The other thing he said was interesting. He felt that Cluxton had his most important game for Dublin in years. His kick outs were superb be they short or Long. Dublin only lost 2 long kick outs iirc? Nobody expected his kickouts that went long to be so accurate. Because the talk was on the opposite #1 his contribution was somewhat overlooked.

The other points lads made at work were the goalkeeping switch lads got but it just didnt work. But they felt Mayo should have put Boyle or Harrison on Connolly. Keegan had far more to offer to the team by attacking as opposed to defending. What Keegan brings to the overall game very few other do and going forward when Mayo needed it he was or would have been better option.

As time has moved on I feel very sorry for both Keepers. Some of the stuff said about Hennelly is totally wrong. Lads like him are going back to their families, and clubs, back to try and earn a living. Clarke I can understand if he walks away. He got some kick in rocks.

At the end of the day all these lads off both sides are ordinary fellas not getting paid who put their lives on hold for us all to go and see to laud if they win and criticise if they lose. But each and every one of them are great sportsmen, great men every GAA supporter can be proud of them all.

Best of luck to all in the club Championship and roll on 2017

Wouldnt have put Harrisson on Connolly but Boyle v Connolly would be an interesting battle. The thing with Boyle though is that he a little more hot-headed and rash than Keegan. Keegan has that little more control in his defending.

mayo.mick

Padkir wrote: »

Are those confirmed? I know that fixtures were announced a couple of weeks back as provisional.

Those are provisional, usually confirmed around the middle of October. If there are changes its usually switch's from Saturday to Sunday or other way around. I'd say our Kerry match will be on the Sunday in Killarney.

happycoach

Hard luck on Sunday guys. Great game. Keep the heads up for next year. Looking forward to seeing ye back in action.

Ascii

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

It will be in Tralee, no lights in Killarney, unless they plan on putting them in this winter

Ah valentines weekend in Tralee...doesn't get better :-) other than a Mayo win of course. Ireland and Italy on in the six nations that Saturday also in Rome.

PARlance

LeoB wrote: »

Well the dust is settling now on what must have been a few torturous days.

Had an interesting chat with a fairly level headed reader of the game this morning. One thing he said which I found interesting was. He met a lot of Mayo people before the game and there was not much buzz about them, they seemed a little flat. Apart from when Keegan scored the goal when the roof near came off Croke park he felt there was a tension, a nervousness among the fans. He felt this could have effected Mayo players. I could understand that feeling and the possibility of how it could effect players. I know from 30+ years being involved with teams tensions or negativity elsewhere can creep in to a group no matter how hard we try to protect them. Any views?

The other thing he said was interesting. He felt that Cluxton had his most important game for Dublin in years. His kick outs were superb be they short or Long. Dublin only lost 2 long kick outs iirc? Nobody expected his kickouts that went long to be so accurate. Because the talk was on the opposite #1 his contribution was somewhat overlooked.

The other points lads made at work were the goalkeeping switch lads got but it just didnt work. But they felt Mayo should have put Boyle or Harrison on Connolly. Keegan had far more to offer to the team by attacking as opposed to defending. What Keegan brings to the overall game very few other do and going forward when Mayo needed it he was or would have been better option.

As time has moved on I feel very sorry for both Keepers. Some of the stuff said about Hennelly is totally wrong. Lads like him are going back to their families, and clubs, back to try and earn a living. Clarke I can understand if he walks away. He got some kick in rocks.

At the end of the day all these lads off both sides are ordinary fellas not getting paid who put their lives on hold for us all to go and see to laud if they win and criticise if they lose. But each and every one of them are great sportsmen, great men every GAA supporter can be proud of them all.

Best of luck to all in the club Championship and roll on 2017

I think there was indeed a nervousness there, in both fans and players. I think that there was a belief that we could match Dublin but a fear that we mightn't be able to kick on and beat them.

Cluxton was excellent, greatly aided by his team and also helped by the fact that we surrendered a lot of his kick outs. There is a logic to allowing them have them and it nearly worked. There was one time in the second half when he came out and punched the ball and that could have went anywhere but it fell to Dublin.

Keegan was the only man for Connolly imo and your friend's point was kinda disproved by Keegan's goal. He was hard done by with the black card and this had a massive impact on us. I definitely wouldn't have put Boyle on him.

Some of the talk of player's ego's / calling the shots is absolutely rubbish. The fact is that Clarke had a real wobble late on in the first game, Hennelly was being warmed up to replace him. Droping Clarke was the wrong call imo but at the very least, they had some reason to consider it. If the players (Aidan seems to be seen as dictator in chief) were calling the shots then Hennelly would never have been dropped early in the season and Connor O'Shea wouldn't have sat out the first game. It's easy to resurface after a defeat and start kicking people when they're down. And anyway, you don't get to be a county player without having a load of self belief, if that manifests as ego then so be it.

I think every squad has senior players that have their say. The problem with us is that as long as we're "losers" they can be singled out as being a problem. Everything changes with a win, if that happened on Saturday people would have applauded them for doing what needed to be done to get an All Ireland. It's a fine line and we continue to be on the wrong side of it.

PressRun

Keegan is most definitely the man for Connolly. He has the measure of him and frequently gets away from him to score. Connolly knows this too which is why he was so eager for Deegan to put him off the last day.