boosabum wrote: » Bit harsh there, Rochford has a 6 week old child at home. It's a big sacrifice to be taking focus away from a new born baby to be concentrating on what can be a very thankless task. managers have a short shelf life too, especially in Mayo
jmayo wrote: » The buck stops with the manager for a disastrous selection policy. Would you rather we pretend everyone did ok ? And being honest I would rather blame Rochford for putting Rob Hennelly in a position where it turned out he was ill suited than blame Hennelly. Also I think he did a disservice to David Clarke. There were a lot more from the drawn game that deserved to be replaced before Clarke. If we just gloss over the cracks we are doomed to repeat them.
boosabum wrote: » Are you suggesting that it's time for a new manager ?
Shurimgreat wrote: » I was of the view that James Horan could deliver an All-Ireland until after the 2013 final when it became clear he was not a manager for All-Ireland final day. I'd be in favour of giving Rochford another go at it, but only one more year. You either have it on AI final day or you don't. Horan never learned from his mistakes. I just hope Rochford can be different this way. It shouldn't be too much to ask for us to have one manager who comes up trumps at least once on AI final day. Just once would do. So far most have had shockers.
jmayo wrote: » He did what he did with SOS in first match, he appeared to keep waiting hoping it might improve.
km79 wrote: » Are people SERIOUSLY even suggesting Rochford should go? If so this place is gone worse than I thought
corny wrote: » I think you'll find a statistical analysis tells you Dublin are far less likely to score from their possession if the corner back gets the ball. Pushing up, as it were, might yield scores (Kerry game) but it might not. You might end up conceding a lot more if Cluxton has his day and finds his man in midfield. Nothing clear cut or 'blindingly obvious'. Might actually be the prudent thing to do.
CrowdedHouse wrote: » Lads - a Tipp man here. Is that statement from Rob H above real? If it is I'm shocked that he considered he had to make one, it's a team game, you can't be pointing the finger at one man. Will there be one from COC about missing the free, or the other forwards about why they couldn't score a couple more points between them? Really unnecessary IMO
Peist2007 wrote: » It was a very tough free. Long range kicks on a kickers "good side" are actually the toughest to get right. Harder to get the power and curl the ball in. He had to hit it harder and the danger with that is you will pull it, which is what happened. Was a freetaker myself and was left footed and always struggled with frees out the wing in or around the 45 yard line for that reason. He would have found it easier to kick it from the exact same position on the opposite side, despite Ger Canning's inevitable comment about it being "on the wrong side for a right footed taker". A very tough kick and i don't factor it into the game analysis at all.
Peist2007 wrote: » If you don't think that Dublin kickouts are a pretty big issue when preparing to play Dublin then we're in disagreement. There was no plan whatsoever. Naive management.
Peist2007 wrote: » Here's a question for you: why did Connelly and Holmes ignore Cluxton's kickouts last year on the first and second days despite this being a blindingly obvious issue to deal with?
Shurimgreat wrote: » David Clarke is far and away a superior goalkeeper to Hennelly. Probably Mayo's best player in the drawn game and did nothing wrong when he came on in the replay. Why is Hennelly even on the panel? He's simply not good enough at this level. To win an AI Final, you have to be ruthless from a selection point of view and drop from the panel players who aren't up to it. Its been a recurring problem over the years, too loyal to players past their best or who are part of a clique. If you look at counties like Kerry, they embark on ruthless self analysis in the wake of an AI final loss, so that they don't make the same mistake again. In Mayo, its usually a case of "ah sure it will be alright next time." Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.
seligehgit wrote: » Season ticket renewed.:)
The Talking Bread wrote: » Not sure where you have been! Everyone agrees on this matter, everyone blames Rochford for the decision. Doesn't mean he deserves to be automatically fired. I am not sure you have been near media over the past 48 hours but noone is glossing over anything. It was Rochford who made the decision to dump Hennelly for Clarke earlier in the season. Many thought it was a bit harsh on the time on RH but it proved to be a brilliant change. Rochford obviously saw something and took a gamble to try hit long kicks but it was an awful gamble as it turned out (and hindsight has a part to play in this also) RH has never been as bad nor ever will be again as Saturday. His confidence clearly blown after the first few kickouts and he never recovered. There has been worse mistakes made by greater managers but hard to remember one which backfired so much. Long and short, everyone knows its a bad decision, everyone knows the management are accountable for it but I am not sure everyone agrees he should be sacked.
The Talking Bread wrote: » of course its not necessary but what harm was it? It wasnt a statement, it was on his instagram account and aimed at fans, friends and followers. Wasn't an addrress to the nation! Its not as if it was an apology, more a sense of acknowledging the support he has got and getting it off his chest. A very positive piece and good to see he isn't hiding away and bottling it up.https://www.instagram.com/p/BLGeUmVgKmQ/
PressRun wrote: » We should be hoping that David Clarke doesn't decide to call it a day,
Robeman wrote: » The Talking Bread wrote: » Not sure where you have been! Everyone agrees on this matter, everyone blames Rochford for the decision. Doesn't mean he deserves to be automatically fired. I am not sure you have been near media over the past 48 hours but noone is glossing over anything. It was Rochford who made the decision to dump Hennelly for Clarke earlier in the season. Many thought it was a bit harsh on the time on RH but it proved to be a brilliant change. Rochford obviously saw something and took a gamble to try hit long kicks but it was an awful gamble as it turned out (and hindsight has a part to play in this also) RH has never been as bad nor ever will be again as Saturday. His confidence clearly blown after the first few kickouts and he never recovered. There has been worse mistakes made by greater managers but hard to remember one which backfired so much. Long and short, everyone knows its a bad decision, everyone knows the management are accountable for it but I am not sure everyone agrees he should be sacked. I know I have called for him to be sacked but thats because I think he is not running the show. I was delighted when he was appointed at the alternative hanging around in the background was too horrible to contemplate. If he cleanses the panel of all the "Egos" and show that he is in charge and only selects players who will be loyal to the team and management I would be fully supportive of his continuing. There are not too many attractive options out there who would be willing to take on Mayo as their choice will be accepting the "Egos" and their "manger reports to us" mentality or else a wholesale building of the team which would possible take 2\3 years.
SeanJ09 wrote: » Why are you presuming there is an "Egos" problem in the Mayo team? What are you basing it on?
