Robeman wrote: » The mother I would personally like to speak with today would be David Clarkes mother or even his father or any other member of his family. I wonder how they felt yesterday when they heard their son was dropped. I would be enraged if it was my son being treated like he was. I don't expect him to come back next season. He was definitely NOT one of the "egos" funnily enough none of the "Egos" featured among the Sunday game team of the season.
MaroonAndGreen wrote: » I haven't been able to bring myself to so much as even watch the highlights of the game again, so I feel unable to offer any analysis of what I believe went wrong, I'd always like to have re-watched the game again and confirm my feelings. But one thing I will say is this, Mayo were seriously underestimated going into this final and Dublin were overestimated - there is nothing between those two teams. You just hope and pray that the lads have the heart to keep going another year or two because they are right there, so close. And for the record I wouldn't say a bad word against them if they all retired in the morning. They've given so much to the cause. At the end of the day, these players are chasing our dream for us because we aren't good enough to do it for ourselves, we ought to be very grateful, I know I am anyway. I can't bear to hear any personal criticism of management or players to be honest, it absolutely stinks in my opinion. Keep the faith and be proud of our team.
MaroonAndGreen wrote: » Yeah I seen that replay on Twitter and it killed me that it looked a lot easier on TV than where I was standing in the terrace. It looked a very difficult kick in real time.
Peist2007 wrote: » It was a very tough free. Long range kicks on a kickers "good side" are actually the toughest to get right. Harder to get the power and curl the ball in. He had to hit it harder and the danger with that is you will pull it, which is what happened. Was a freetaker myself and was left footed and always struggled with frees out the wing in or around the 45 yard line for that reason. He would have found it easier to kick it from the exact same position on the opposite side, despite Ger Canning's inevitable comment about it being "on the wrong side for a right footed taker". A very tough kick and i don't factor it into the game analysis at all.
km79 wrote: » very good analysis of it ! he definitely kicked harder through the ball alright to make sure he has the requisite distance on it Such a pity after 2 weeks that it was him to miss it. and STILL we had a chance to win the kickout.......aaaaagggghhhhhh
jmayo wrote: » And how do you think Rob Hennelly's family feel ? No one is a winner out of that situation. If there was such disharmony in the camp it would surely have spilled out in some fashion, it always does. And every team has egos and if you think otherwise you are deluded, but jaysus will you leave off. It's like a broken stuck record. Whilst I agree about not having pops at players who to all intents and purposes put their lives on hold to try and win, I think management can be rightly criticised. Management don't have to sacrifice as much as players in their day to day lives and as we all know they are rewarded in ways players aren't. Management have not got a ticking clock that means their career is over. And to make matters worse a players top level career has gotten even shorter over the last decade and a couple of years under a non performing manager can mean some players never have a chance to win major honours. And the above isn't specific to Mayo or this management team, but to all counties and clubs in both codes.
boosabum wrote: » Bit harsh there, Rochford has a 6 week old child at home. It's a big sacrifice to be taking focus away from a new born baby to be concentrating on what can be a very thankless task. managers have a short shelf life too, especially in Mayo
PressRun wrote: » Hopefully Ger Cafferky will be back for next year too. Last I saw him, he was on crutches and the road to recovery was looking very long. Twas a horrible injury he picked up.
koochie wrote: » Where were you last year when I needed you?
Barlett wrote: » Ok and this goes for you too Koochie, why would Stephen Rochford, an up and coming manager stay in the job when he has no say in the team? I mean it's him that's being criticised tonight by public and press so surely he'll walk away if the players are in control rather than risk damaging his reputation? And I'm not trying to take the piss lads, but when you're arguing something that nobody else believes its effectively a conspiracy theory. And that's my issue, if there is an issue someone would leave, speak out etc And that's what I'm asking, why in a team of 50-55 people has nobody done or said anything? Surely now people will leave if what you say is true then?
tacofries wrote: » Also get those season tickets renewed! I was able to renew mine this morning even though I forgot to do it last year!!!
Flange/Flanders wrote: » Robeman, you obviously know someone in the camp who's getting screwed over. Who doesn't like what they're seeing? Who isn't agreeing with the egos? And this person is still staying with the team. If you're right, then this person is a sheep and a coward. I wouldn't tolerate this if it was happening on my junior b team!
ClaptonBay wrote: » Didnt make a difference if Cillian had pointed that last kick, Dublin would've taken us in extra time. It would've only postponed the inevitable. I havent watched it back but it seemed Dublin had chances in the end to put a few more scores on the board only for some last ditch defending and some bad decisions on the Dublin side... Anyway - we go again and gutted for the team, they have a serious ability to keep going and total respect for them. My opinion is we need to get some of the younger lads game time in the league and persist with them even for the championship. Even if they dont perform to well, you need that experience to learn from. Where Dublin brought on pace we brought on Dillon and Barry, and there was only i think two balls launched in high. It would be good to have the likes of Irwin and Regan to call on who can add something when the legs of the other lads are starting to go. Feel for Clarke and Robbie - huge risk by management that just didn't make sense.
PARlance wrote: » If I've one wish for the winter it's to discover 1 or 2 real opinions in the FF line. It was very hard to watch Andy struggle in the second half and frustrating watching Barry in there. There was very little on offer from the FF line in the second half. Scrap that, if I'm making wishes, let's hope for 2-3 options in there. The big man rarely works, thank you Star for making it the default plan B.
Robeman wrote: » Speaking of sheep and cowards I will pose a further question and I would be grateful if any of you can answer it. How many players of last years panel signed the letter to the county board that demanded the heads of Connolly and Holmes and how many did not. I still have not found any sight of this letter on internet.
Peist2007 wrote: » I think lads with opinions in the full forward line has always been one of our problems
MaroonAndGreen wrote: » By the way have any of ye heard the MidWest commentary at the closing minutes of the game? It's absolutely heart breaking
Peist2007 wrote: » Here's a question for you: why did Connelly and Holmes ignore Cluxton's kickouts last year on the first and second days despite this being a blindingly obvious issue to deal with?
PhoneMain wrote: » @Shurimgreat To say Robbie Hennelly doesn't deserve to be in the panel is ridiculous. He's a decent goalkeeper with a normally very good kickout. He wouldn't be in the panel the last few years through 3 management teams if he didn't deserve to be. Do you ever watch him at club level? I highly doubt that.
Shurimgreat wrote: » I said he's not good enough at AI Final level or the business end of the championship. Its got nothing to do with club level. He also messed up in 2013 against Dublin when he came out to punch clear and mistimed it, allowed BB flick the ball in. He's an accident waiting to happen. His kickouts were awful on Saturday. I don't blame Hennelly personally. I blame the management. Once more zero accountability there.
