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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

Timmaay

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

All farming sectors go through difficult periods and during such times there may need to be changes in how threads are moderated.

Dairy threads are going to be more closely monitored and subject to stricter moderation for a while.

To that end we won’t tolerate baiting of posters, constantly reviving old arguments, posters with agendas or crusading for a cause.

Whether it’s discussion of the business or politics of the dairy or other sectors, we expect civility and tolerance toward each other and other opinions as diversity of opinion is needed as a source of different ways of looking at a situation.

"The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert

Also please be aware that what you may post as light-hearted banter can be read totally differently by someone adversely affected by the subject matter and evoke a reaction you hadn’t intended.

The ‘Off-Season’ forum, and its anonymous posting, is available for anyone to chat about their situation.

The Mod Team.

10 away from the 10000 posts! Frazz I think it's fair to say this thread has been a success!

Indeed it was! First thread can be found here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056872221

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Injuryprone

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

No, you will only get paid on your initial figure applied for. Say 50k liters and allocated 40k liters. If you reduce by 40k, you get paid on the 40k @ 14c/l.

If there is unused liters left by lads producing more that they should have, their unused liters will be allocated out up to everyone else up to the max you applied on so you can't get more than 14c/l on 50k liters but you may get a few extra hundred liters @14c.

That's how it was explained to me anyway so I don't know any more.

I get you. Except as it has turned out, everyone got what they wanted, so in the example above the full 50k has been allocated so there's no one there to take the re-allocation.

It would seem so that they'll have to run a second phase to cater for this potential milk even if the initial offering is small. There may be hope for Timmaay yet!

Mooooo

No heatwave here anyway. Misty foggy day odd bit of drizzle only clearing a bit now. Contractors finished at slurry now rolled up and all. About 60k gallons out from 3 different tanks in 4 and a bit hours with very little damage done. They will be back again the week before closing date so will finish then.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Well, bucket anyway!

I left up a jar of inhibitor milk this morning into the tank and ran over to the lab with a sample to see if I had managed to keep it from the tank.

Nope, bright blue:mad:

3 days milk too, it never seems to happen with one days milk.

Balls:(

stanflt

Here ebi dropped from 204 to 126 here on the latest Icbf ebi run

What have others dropped by??

CowMeister

stanflt wrote: »

Here ebi dropped from 204 to 126 here on the latest Icbf ebi run

What have others dropped by??

Gone from 136 down to 60

GrasstoMilk

156 to 83.
One of best cows on ebi I'd one that slipped 12 weeks in calving

Buford T. Justice XIX

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Well, bucket anyway!

I left up a jar of inhibitor milk this morning into the tank and ran over to the lab with a sample to see if I had managed to keep it from the tank.

Nope, bright blue:mad:

3 days milk too, it never seems to happen with one days milk.

Balls:(

Looking at the bright side, I just realised I'm going to be paid 14c/l for it : pac:

ted_182

stanflt wrote:

Here ebi dropped from 204 to 126 here on the latest Icbf ebi run

What have others dropped by??

Down from 162 to 81, that scrapes into top 25%, when i joined 3ish years ago herd was in top 10%...fack

Mooooo

Down to 67. Most young stock over 100 one cow -83 eek

wats the craic

bit off topic but what do ye lads think of a ursus 490 tractor are they a good machine

Brown Podzol

Down to 75 from around 150. Sure they're the same cows.:D

yewtree

Down to 76 from 148 lowest cow -11 definitely one of the worst cows in herd. highest cow 148. Highest animal 184 (16 heifer calf). Herd is + 25 for maintenance seems a good indication of mature cow size, jex herd here. 0 for health

stanflt

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Down to 75 from around 150. Sure they're the same cows.:D

Naturally- but I think they down graded them more than just the 71 as quote- think 71 was only for production and fertility

pedigree 6

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Libgen.io and sci-hub.cc are the sites your after!!

God bless the Russians.:)

leg wax

85 ebi here happy enough.

mahoney_j

stanflt wrote: »

Here ebi dropped from 204 to 126 here on the latest Icbf ebi run

What have others dropped by??

185 down to 107'

freedominacup

leg wax wrote: »

85 ebi here happy enough.

Herd ebi here 30. Couldn't give less of a fcuk. Lowest girl I can find is -159. -140.9 for fertility. Sixth lactation. Calving date gone from 25/4/14 to 17/4/15 to 9/03/15 to 13/03/16. It could not be a more useless assesment of any herd. Completely and utterly biased by the views of a select group in teagasc.

simx

Injuryprone wrote: »

At a much reduced price?

Depends, if she's fleshy Enough let her on, is she swelled up big or what's she like?

Keepgrowing

98 here down from I don't know what cause I don't actually care
Lowest cow is -98

degetme

Herd ebi down to 81 from 149
highest cow 138
Lowest 28

If i started milk recording could herd ebi go up or down?

darragh_haven

Keepgrowing wrote: »

98 here down from I don't know what cause I don't actually care
Lowest cow is -98

Does a cow in the negative ebi actual take milk out of the tank ðŸ˜œ

Mooooo

Had a cow culled 2 years ago, 15 years old 12 lactation with 8 years straight calving in the same fortnight and a half in jan/feb. Highest her ebi ever went was -37 I think. Now her solids were never high Avg 3.3p most lactations but that was with a yield avg of 6500. There will always be exceptions but sometimes you'd be scratching your head

Signpost

Herd average is 52. Highest 124, lowest -25. Not a huge believer in this whole EBI TBH thou, the aAa seems to be far more reliable for my herd I find anyway.

Mooooo

Signpost wrote: »

Herd average is 52. Highest 124, lowest -25. Not a huge believer in this whole EBI TBH thou, the aAa seems to be far more reliable for my herd I find anyway.

Did you get your herd scored using aAa or do you just do it yourself matching cows and bulls? You only use bulls with aAa figures?

Signpost

Been trying it myself for a good while but second year getting herd scored and definitely worth it. Far more thorough than when your doing it yourself.
Ya all bulls have aAa figures but my AI technician was the one who got me interested in aAa so he is great at using the right straws and giving advice when needed!

mahoney_j

mahoney_j wrote: »

185 down to 107'

For what it's worth highest ebi cow here 278 highest ebi calf 318 (both genotyped )lowest cow -3 (cracking looking cow but takes3/4 serves every year.lowest calf 118'.
I'll say no more other than I'm happy with it .....

mf240

What's this ebi ye speak of.

stanflt

mf240 wrote: »

What's this ebi ye speak of.

A mystical figure pulled from the sky

kowtow

The highest EBI cow here has more or less dried herself off after a few months on OAD.

She does feed a couple of late calves outside the parlour though on her way in to eat, although If I'm honest I think they are beginning to eye up the others with a view to changing snack bar.

Among those without an EBI two are still giving 20litres + on OAD.

I suspect this has more to do with the way I use EBI than the system itself.

Morris Moss

Have one cow gone from an EBI of 270 down to 30...... it'd make ya wonder sometimes are they pulling figures out of they're holes.