BoardsMember wrote: » He bent my front wheel right around, and went down.
BoardsMember wrote: » *snip* I know the look, he was looking to avoid unclipping by picking a gap in the pedestrians crossing the road. the gap he identified was in front of me, he sped up so was going through the red light at a reasonable pace while people were still crossing. So I decided to take one for the team and closed the gap. He bent my front wheel right around, and went down. *snip*
stecleary wrote: » bent as in buckled? If so i'd have frog marched him to the nearest bike shop and charged him for a new wheel
Fian wrote: » Do you mean that you deliberately caused him to crash into you? If so not your finest hour indeed imo. Someone crossing at speed "between" pedestrians is indeed a tosser of the highest order and possibly "deserves" to come a cropper, but this does not justify deliberately causing a crash just to prove a point. Someone (you, he or another pedestrian if he swerved to avoid your front wheel) could have been injured. not to mention his poor innocent carbon bike.
Leroy42 wrote: » I was thinking the same thing. The cyclists was indeed a tosser, but you said yourself that you saw the look, you knew what he was going to do and you deliberately took an action to increase the likelihood of an accident. That doesn't make what the cyclist did right, far from it, but it doesn't make you a hero either. To then assault the guy on the basis that you were at least partially to blame for the accident is somewhat warped. We each have a responsibility to avoid accidents. Being right or wrong takes a backseat to the first principle. If I see a car on the wrong side of the road I don't just carry on driving straight into them if I can avoid it. Now if the crash happens of course the blame lies with the other person, unless it can be shown that I had sufficient time to avoid the accident but deliberately speed up in order to ensure the crash happened.
Leroy42 wrote: » That doesn't make what the cyclist did right, far from it, but it doesn't make you a hero either. To then assault the guy on the basis that you were at least partially to blame for the accident is somewhat warped. We each have a responsibility to avoid accidents. Being right or wrong takes a backseat to the first principle.
Seve OB wrote: » Also had a school incident yesterday. I had dropped my kids in and was walking back out, still on (primary) school grounds, heading up the ramp entrance. The bell had just gone and I got away fast so there was still lots kids coming in, lots of parents leavings, buggies younger kids etc. Now, the school harp on about not cycling, skating, scooting, whatever in the school grounds. It's to tight and narrow, to many kids around and accidents bound to happen. The odd time you might see a toddler on their scooter, but in general, the rule is adhered to. This gobsh1te parent decides it is ok for him to mount his bike and try and cycle through the crowd, up the ramp, which in no possible way could have gotten him out any quicker at all. Of course, as he was getting on his bike, there was a natural wobble to balance and he banged straight into a young lad who couldn't have been much more than 5. Not a major bang or anything, but if you bump into a young kid like that, they are going to feel it for a while. He said a very quick sorry and tried to cycle through the crowd. I was next to him so gave a him a piece of my mind and more or less told him to cop on and that cycling was not allowed on school grounds. I didn't get into stupidity of what he was doing with so many people around or anything. He looked at me and I could see he was actually about to have a go back, but I just waked off.
Chuchote wrote: » A parent doing it? What a loon!
CramCycle wrote: » As my brother in law recently pointed out to me, it is only when you start cycling or walking a reasonable distance in Dublin, do you see the complete lack of reason and decency rife throughout our capital.
dermabrasion wrote: » Actually Cram, how about you thinking about this another way. Because we have practically zero enforcement of minor traffic laws in the city, do you not think that we actually behave quite well compared to other cities with no effective police deterrent?
BoardsMember wrote: » Last week...having dropped the kids to school via the pedestrian crossing right outside the school, I used the crossing to get back to town-ward direction of road, wheeling my bike. There were others using the crossing, mostly in front of me. The light sequence is quite short as a green man/red light to traffic, though there is a generous orange. Still on the green man I notice lycra clad man on carbon bike eye up the situation as he approached the lights. I know the look, he was looking to avoid unclipping by picking a gap in the pedestrians crossing the road. the gap he identified was in front of me, he sped up so was going through the red light at a reasonable pace while people were still crossing. So I decided to take one for the team and closed the gap. He bent my front wheel right around, and went down. I lost it completely with him. I didn't curse or hit him, but it was all I could do not to. I roared at him for several minutes, holding him all the time, marching him from the middle of the road while still grabbing him. I was absolutely livid. My own kid has been knocked down crossing on the green man here by a cyclist, as have other kids. I made a huge scene. Not my finest moment, but I was so incensed. It takes a special kind of tosser to break the red light outside a school with kids/parents/prams crossing on the green man. I eventually stopped roaring abuse at him and let him go when he promised not to do it again. In my enraged state, I thought I might hang onto him and call the Gardaí but I decided to just let the scene come to an end. Several parents and teachers saw the aftermath, I think my new nickname is Walter White.
Bloggsie wrote: » I have to agree with your actions, my only issue with your actions are had he bounced into someone else that got hurt, the end result would have not been worth the risk, but I still would like to think id have done the same in the heat of the moment. What are the chances he has done it again already, do you think your shock tactics have changed his mindset?
Leroy42 wrote: » What you guys seem to be suggesting is that people actively take the implementation of laws, and their understanding of them, into their own hands and dole out justice as they see fit.
Leroy42 wrote: » Do you think that should you break a red light a car driver should be allowed to drive straight into you.
Leroy42 wrote: » Should people be allowed to punch children for riding on the footpath?
Leroy42 wrote: » What about if a motorist feels you are taking up too much space and not close enough to the kerb, should they be allowed to run into you?
Seve OB wrote: » If you broke a red light, then it would have been your own fault [if a driver "drove straight into you".
Seve OB wrote: » If you broke a red light, then it would have been your own fault.
magicbastarder wrote: » if you break a red and create an unavoidable collision, your fault. if you break a red and create an avoidable collision - one which the other driver chooses not to avoid - that other driver is clearly at fault.
Seve OB wrote: » I know. I was being devils advocate
Chuchote wrote: » No need. The devil already has many, many advocates.
buffalo wrote: » Incidentally, I heard an RSA ad this morning recommending a 1m overtaking distance in certain areas, instead of the universal 1.5m. Anyone know where that idea came from?
Chuchote wrote: » Where was that ad? Immediately report it to the Advertising Standards Authority, perhaps using this
