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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

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A new thread for a new season

Old thread here with warnings still active: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057588528

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5starpool

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Delighted Ayre is going, the season just gets better and better.

It was announced months ago that he was leaving at the end of this season.

~Rebel~

mosstin wrote: »

Not at all. David Moores sold us down the ****ing river and he was a Red through and through.

He was owner, never CEO, never actually running the club. Very important distinction.

More than that though, Moores did actually have the clubs best interests at heart, it just went horribly wrong with H&G didn't meet any of the promises they made. "Shovel in the ground in 60 days" etc etc.

That was the main reason he sold to them, as he knew he couldn't have funded the club moving to the next level.

But also, so what? Obviously there are tonnes of Liverpudlians not at all suited to running the club - but having one that was is, to me, preferable to having an outsider of similar ability. It's a very nice extra factor for very obvious reasons.

retalivity

Adam lallana - the only goalscorer for england under Allardyce.

Pub question for the future.

mosstin

~Rebel~ wrote: »

He was owner, never CEO, never actually running the club. Very important distinction.

More than that though, Moores did actually have the clubs best interests at heart, it just went horribly wrong with H&G didn't meet any of the promises they made. "Shovel in the ground in 60 days" etc etc.

That was the main reason he sold to them, as he knew he couldn't have funded the club moving to the next level.

But also, so what? Obviously there are tonnes of Liverpudlians not at all suited to running the club - but having one that was is, to me, preferable to having an outsider of similar ability. It's a very nice extra factor for very obvious reasons.

You make the most catastrophic business decision in the club's history sound like a quirk of fate. Moores ultimately sold to the highest bidder. Regardless of what H & G promised Moores had been in business long enough to take greater care selling what was his boyhood club.
So, no, give me a Martin Broughton any day over the local.

[Deleted User]

Moores' decision was no doubt well intentioned but it did go horribly wrong, that doesn't take away from the nice Ayre being a local lad sentiment though

Talisman

NukaCola wrote: »

Any particular reason?

Oktoberfest!

NukaCola

Its all about that Net!!
Discounting "sprints per game" Its all fairly impressive....

[Deleted User]

How we fixed on points?

dogbert27

Augeo wrote: »

How we fixed on points?

Wahey!!

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dogbert27

Sorry, thought you said how are we fixed for pints?

NukaCola

Augeo wrote: »

How we fixed on points?

Yea, in fairness its the most important stat......in his first 36 league games its 61 points, but I'm open to correction.......10 draws in that time is a killer.......there are many reasons and excuses you could use, but leaving all that aside improvements have been made. We need to see that reflected in the points we gain, which I'd be fairly confident we'll see this season.....

54and56

~Rebel~ wrote: »

More than that though, Moores did actually have the clubs best interests at heart, it just went horribly wrong with H&G didn't meet any of the promises they made. "Shovel in the ground in 60 days" etc etc.

If Moores key objective in selling the club was to ensure the incoming owners delivered X, Y & Z projects/investments then those commitments could and should have been written into the sale and purchase agreement thus binding H&G to deliver them.

Handing the club over to two strangers for £Xm and a promise that they'd have a "shovel in the ground in 60 days" was both naive and negligent.

[Deleted User]

Moores selling to the cowboys was a disaster.

Also, a disaster for him and the club was not kicking on early 90's when money started coming in from TV.

He took over then as chairman and only now 25 years later do we have an extended stadium.

Muahahaha

I know Ayres gets a lot of stick but I think he did great work during the transition from Rodgers to Klopp. iirc we were only mangerless for three weeks and then ended up with one of the top managers in the world. I have no doubt Ayre was laying the groundwork for recruiting Klopp a long time before Rodgers was sacked. Ayre deserves appreciation not only for making the Klopp appointment happen but also for the business like way in which he went about it IMO

Grayditch

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Delighted Ayre is going, the season just gets better and better.

If you're happy we're shot of him because of his perceived inability to persuade big names to join the club, just remember that that's no longer our thing now. That is something I criticised him for at the time, but it's sort of irrelevant now. He oversaw the Standard Charter deal, which was big for Liverpool. If it's about the ticket thing, he said he was sorry.

messinkiapina

Eamon Dunphy bullishly predicts that Liverpool are going to dismantle Manchester United

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/liverpool/eamon-dunphy-bullishly-predicts-that-liverpool-are-going-to-dismantle-manchester-united-35081178.html

That's us fajuked then. Can't remember the last time he was right about anything. Thanks Eamo!

Agent Coulson

Ayre has been very important to Liverpool over the last number of years and will be a big loss I think.

Whoever takes over will have a tough job to improve on what Ayre has done for the club.

SuperTortoise

jcsoulinger wrote: »

Fair play to him on the charity work, players are generally praising of fans, I was more referring to him acting the clown.

I fear Alot of people find his personality endearing and are then willing to overlook his glaring inadequacies. As they really want him to succeed.

Glaring inadequacies?
There's nothing about his football game that worries me.
In his time at the club he has shown he is a solid cb and has the tools to be a top cb.
I understand the need for professionalism, and the recent goings on on the club tour was unfortunate and was bad timing but he has a lot of ability.

~Rebel~

Augeo wrote: »

Moores' decision was no doubt well intentioned but it did go horribly wrong, that doesn't take away from the nice Ayre being a local lad sentiment though

Exactly.

I'm with Bellamy on this one anyway and will wish him well.

dogbert27

Yeah it's another dog dangling afternoon around here

dogbert27

Midweek in this place without European football

[Deleted User]

........... we were 45 mins away from CL, goal to the good, so close.

Harry Palmr

I'm taking the sunny view of that failure - with CL football Klopp would be working hand to mouth time wise, without it he has moved the side forward more quickly.

Mini top 4 wannabe league table (nicked from RAWK) Not sure why Soton have been left out though.

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J Mysterio

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I'm taking the sunny view of that failure - with CL football Klopp would be working hand to mouth time wise, without it he has moved the side forward more quickly.

Yep, 100%

[Deleted User]

Indeed, there's definitely a huge silver lining.

Harry Palmr

Sadio Mane voted player of the month (well six weeks) for the Aug/Sept period by football fans on Sky Sport website.

Sadio Mane (49%)
Kevin De Bruyne (31%),
Etienne Capoue (8%),
Diego Costa (6%),
Michail Antonio (4%)
Curtis Davies (2%).

Obviously the reds network was hard at work!

Knex*

Wouldn't have complained if KDB won it, in all honesty, but fair play to Mane. He's been excellent for us.

jones

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Sadio Mane voted player of the month (well six weeks) for the Aug/Sept period by football fans on Sky Sport website.

Sadio Mane (49%)
Kevin De Bruyne (31%),
Etienne Capoue (8%),
Diego Costa (6%),
Michail Antonio (4%)
Curtis Davies (2%).

Obviously the reds network was hard at work!

No arsenal player? what is going on

Bandana boy

mosstin wrote: »

Moores ultimately sold to the highest bidder. .

Except he did not ,crowd who bought City bid more than H&G.

Devilman40k

Bandana boy wrote: »

Except he did not ,crowd who bought City bid more than H&G.

Mansour never wanted to buy Liverpool, you're mixing him up with DIC who made several attempts to buy the club between 2006 and 2008 (including one to buy from Hicks & Gillett which got to the point where Gillett was prepared to sell his stake)