Blackrock Village proposed Development

Barr wrote: »

When will be known if phase 2 is going ahead?

I'm afraid that one will have to be filed in the 'how long is a piece of string' file.

You'd imagine it would happen, but at this point in time funding isn't signed off.

It would be lovely amenity for all the community if it was all developed properly but that doesn't really matter it seems.

If I hear any positive news l'll post, but I wouldn't go holding my breath. Expect another saga.

xabi wrote: »

As a resident you have every right to go past the signs as far as the one way section between Pier Head and entrance to the convent, but you don't have right of way so should wait until its safe for you to enter your driveway.

Oh absolutely, but the attitude out of some people who even see someone coming past that sign from a distance is that the world has ended and the gardai need to be called. Just drive on guys, it's all grand.

Jonathan222 wrote: »

I'm talking about the one way signs down by the cafe. I get people have to go past the other one(by the church) to get to the school and houses down there. Pretty sure I'm not intimidating anyone and you stand your ground by going the wrong way down a one way system? All I'm saying is I travel the right way as directed, and other people fail to follow pretty clear road signs. Also, a 3k detour? Just go right by the church before you head down the hill and do a loop. If that's 3k, I'll have set a new 3k running record.

I'm talking about the sign before the church says 'road closed'. If you've gotten as far as the church to take that right turn, you're already passed the bit I'm talking about. The detour would be to go up church road (where the sign is) and around the back of mahon, over to castle road and back up past the church again.

The part by the cafe is fair enough. but please don't be getting aggressive with residents, there's no need.

When will be known if phase 2 is going ahead?

pwurple wrote: »

My house is one of those near the road closed signs, so I go past the signs to drive into my driveway rather than taking a 3k detour.

The development is very messy and very awkward for the local residents affected, no Q about it. All that can be said I suppose it that it will be lovely when it is it done, particularly if phase 2 goes ahead.

xabi

pwurple wrote: »

What are you at I wonder? Expecting people to crawl back into their shells is a funny phrase I must say.

My house is one of those near the road closed signs, so I go past the signs to drive into my driveway rather than taking a 3k detour.

I've met two other drivers who think that leaning on the horn and waving wildly will somehow transport me over their heads (because they are usually blocking my drive), and that a roadsign trumps all. I wait it out until they travel on their merry way past me, and I can turn in. If you are intimidating the vast amounts of elderly people around blackrock, who will not stand their ground like I do, then I suggest you back off a little bit rather than stressing everyone off.

As a resident you have every right to go past the signs as far as the one way section between Pier Head and entrance to the convent, but you don't have right of way so should wait until its safe for you to enter your driveway.

Jonathan222

pwurple wrote: »

Jonathan222 wrote: »

I find it amazing the amount of people who ignore the one way signs and then get seriously pi*sed off when they have to reverse back. I mean what are they expecting? Fair enough if they think they are better than everyone else not to stick to it, but at least take it when you've been found out and have to crawl back into your shell.

What are you at I wonder? Expecting people to crawl back into their shells is a funny phrase I must say.

My house is one of those near the road closed signs, so I go past the signs to drive into my driveway rather than taking a 3k detour.

I've met two other drivers who think that leaning on the horn and waving wildly will somehow transport me over their heads (because they are usually blocking my drive), and that a roadsign trumps all. I wait it out until they travel on their merry way past me, and I can turn in. If you are intimidating the vast amounts of elderly people around blackrock, who will not stand their ground like I do, then I suggest you back off a little bit rather than stressing everyone off.

I'm talking about the one way signs down by the cafe. I get people have to go past the other one(by the church) to get to the school and houses down there. Pretty sure I'm not intimidating anyone and you stand your ground by going the wrong way down a one way system? All I'm saying is I travel the right way as directed, and other people fail to follow pretty clear road signs. Also, a 3k detour? Just go right by the church before you head down the hill and do a loop. If that's 3k, I'll have set a new 3k running record.

SkySter

Any plans to reinstate the public toilet down there? Badly needed for those going for a walk or having a coffee.

A superloo would be ideal.

Jonathan222 wrote: »

I find it amazing the amount of people who ignore the one way signs and then get seriously pi*sed off when they have to reverse back. I mean what are they expecting? Fair enough if they think they are better than everyone else not to stick to it, but at least take it when you've been found out and have to crawl back into your shell.

What are you at I wonder? Expecting people to crawl back into their shells is a funny phrase I must say.

My house is one of those near the road closed signs, so I go past the signs to drive into my driveway rather than taking a 3k detour.

I've met two other drivers who think that leaning on the horn and waving wildly will somehow transport me over their heads (because they are usually blocking my drive), and that a roadsign trumps all. I wait it out until they travel on their merry way past me, and I can turn in. If you are intimidating the vast amounts of elderly people around blackrock, who will not stand their ground like I do, then I suggest you back off a little bit rather than stressing everyone off.

Jonathan222

I find it amazing the amount of people who ignore the one way signs and then get seriously pi*sed off when they have to reverse back. I mean what are they expecting? Fair enough if they think they are better than everyone else not to stick to it, but at least take it when you've been found out and have to crawl back into your shell.

pmc1 wrote: »

Is there any confirmation if the second phase with the plaza down to the harbour is going to go ahead. It would be a real shame not to at this stage. The new car park is badly needed to, so hopefully that at least gets completed!

As far as l know there is not confirmation of funding at this point in time for the 2nd phase.

pmc1

Is there any confirmation if the second phase with the plaza down to the harbour is going to go ahead. It would be a real shame not to at this stage. The new car park is badly needed to, so hopefully that at least gets completed!

Yogi81

I think that is their plan.
The wider path will be the width of their premises

With ya now , maybe the pier head might use the extra footpath for outdoor seating

Barr wrote: »

What are the footpaths with big swings ? not sure what this is

I suppose what I was trying to say was that the footpath coming down Convent Road and when you get to the corner outside the Pier Head pub, the footpath on the Pier Head pub side will move out from the Pier Head pub in a kind of curve, i.e. the footpath will no longer be in a straight line.

Talking to a fellow in the Council he said that setup was all the go now, he called it traffic calming, so outside the Pier Head pub you'd now have to slow down as you get to the curve in the footpath.

The outline of that footpath (outside the Pier Head pub) was there when I was looking at the building works on Sunday.

Thanks for the update clerk , I was wondering how long more Convent Road will be closed. Glad you mentioned that

What are the footpaths with big swings ? not sure what this is

Talking to a few locals last night and looking at the progress of the works, it looks like Convent Road will be blocked for at least another 3 weeks from now. Electricity poles along the "old" line of the road are yet to be moved for example. Footpaths on the side where the houses are, are yet to be done etc.

They have parking set up into the line of the footpaths on the Convent side of the road, not a huge amount I would say probably just about enough for the people that live there to park in (if they can get them!). So I guess there will be less parking outside the actual houses which would reduce the bottleneck towards the top of the road as you come to the corner turn where the nuns are.

Apparently they're putting rail way tracks on both sides of the road outside the Convent (one side is more or less done, the other is yet to be started) and all the area in the village itself will be cobblestones (apart from footpaths) so you'll have to take it nice and handy in the car, which is exactly the plan, traffic calming.

There's putting in those footpaths with big swings in them outside the Pier Head and the other side, traffic calming again.

.red.

Stunning looking apartments, pretty big in size too. The 2 bed are bigger than a lot of 3 bed houses.
The price tho, is a bit steep although I can't imagine it'll be a problem.

Photos and prices here:

Professional ones
https://www.lisney.com/new-homes-for-sale/property-for-sale-in-blackrock-house-blackrock-cork/18375

My snaps.

Barr wrote: »

I suppose it is too tight to negotiate by the pier head at the moment for a bus :eek:

yes, there's no way the bus could go the normal route, Castle road is not an option for a bus, so it's just blocked off and that's it. Must be very awkward for some people, no question about it.

pwurple wrote: »

Bus route is supplied by a mini-van around there for the next 4 weeks. You get picked up by the van, which drives up to the marion park bus-stop and leaves you there to catch the 202 coming the opposite direction to normal. Absolute pain with a buggy or a wheelchair. 202 seems to be completely random as well instead of timetabled. Was waiting 40 minutes for it last night, supposed to be every 10 or 15 mins.

I went to have a gawk at the open house apartments in the ursulines. They've done a great job on keeping the features intact. All the windows were taken out, stripped back and cleaned, restored, resealed and put back in. The floors and ceilings look great. Ceiling height is beautiful. A lot of locals like myself in having a nose.... hope they sell for them, they've done some nice work there. I have some photos, will upload later if I get time.

So where does the van start , is it there by Mahon close to St Micheals football.

I suppose it is too tight to negotiate by the pier head at the moment for a bus :eek:

D'Agger

They're selling for a relatively high price yeah? They should - renovated old building in Blackrock - shut up and take my money!

On the 40mins wait for a bus - some things never change - Corks lack of bus lanes is a real issue that's debilitating to a service for a city

Bus route is supplied by a mini-van around there for the next 4 weeks. You get picked up by the van, which drives up to the marion park bus-stop and leaves you there to catch the 202 coming the opposite direction to normal. Absolute pain with a buggy or a wheelchair. 202 seems to be completely random as well instead of timetabled. Was waiting 40 minutes for it last night, supposed to be every 10 or 15 mins.

I went to have a gawk at the open house apartments in the ursulines. They've done a great job on keeping the features intact. All the windows were taken out, stripped back and cleaned, restored, resealed and put back in. The floors and ceilings look great. Ceiling height is beautiful. A lot of locals like myself in having a nose.... hope they sell for them, they've done some nice work there. I have some photos, will upload later if I get time.

GavRedKing

D'Agger wrote: »

Unless there's something physically blocking the road, like a digger or a large casm....the road aint closed :pac:

Thats whats happening down there alright.

I've started going the Skehard Road to work now in the mornings, because the traffic down towards the village via the castle road and marina, due to the school being back can be a pain in the arse.

D'Agger

Unless there's something physically blocking the road, like a digger or a large casm....the road aint closed :pac:

GavRedKing

Going to work this morning, I went down passedthe castle and up towards the village and right, heading down the Marina just before the bakery and convent, there was still cars coming down the convent road, at least 3 so they had ignored the signs on the Ringmahon road saying local resident access only.

Couldnt make it up. :pac:

Convent Road is now completely closed BOTH WAYS for at least the next 4 weeks. No access to Convent Road from Blackrock village.

I spoke to one of the lads working there yesterday, they closed it yesterday circa 2-3pm.

As I was down there some people were still bizarrely ignoring the "road closed" signs and driving all the way up to Convent Road, only in Ireland. One of these fellows who was turning his car around, asked me in a disgruntled tone "what was going on". I felt like saying to him when you turn around see if you find some visual clues up the road that you drove past like the "road closed" signs.

opus

It got a mention in yesterday's Echo - HISTORIC TRAM TRACKS FEATURE IN NEW PLAN FOR BLACKROCK VILLAGE

Yogi81

When the main drainage was laid in the village years ago, they cut straight through the tram lines.
They are now replacing the damaged ones with sections removed from further up Blackrock Road.
I'd imagine not all of the tarmac comes away easily from the cobbles also.

The tram lines and cobbles will be incorporated into the new road surface between the Ursulines entrance and the junction of Pier Head Inn.