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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

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Old thread here with warnings still active: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057588528

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niallo27

I can't see anything but a liverpool win tomorrow. This game is made for the counter.

secman

niallo27 wrote: »

I can't see anything but a liverpool win tomorrow. This game is made for the counter.

If Liverpool turn up tomorrow, Chelsea get a walkover today.

5starpool

secman wrote: »

If Liverpool turn up tomorrow, Chelsea get a walkover today.

It was tomorrow for him at the time since he is in Canada.

TitianGerm

I'm going to miss the match now. Stupid lady leaving in work, and the rest of the clowns organising a meal for tonight

Ciano35

Matip saying he's going to stay at Liverpool during the African cup:
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/joel-matip-stay-liverpool-go-11893825

Agent Coulson

Isn't there a rule if a player refuses a call up for his Country they can block him from playing for his club while those internationals are being played.

Grayditch

emmetkenny wrote: »

I'm going to miss the match now. Stupid lady leaving in work, and the rest of the clowns organising a meal for tonight

That's like working outside of work, see ya after. If she's leaving she wont be there to hold it against you next week.

See how great with people I am?

NukaCola

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Isn't there a rule if a player refuses a call up for his Country they can block him from playing for his club while those internationals are being played.

No way! Really? Absolutely ridiculous if true.......

NukaCola

Grayditch wrote: »

That's like working outside of work, see ya after. If she's leaving she wont be there to hold it against you next week.

See how great with people I am?

I'm with you on this one......

Knex*

Grayditch wrote: »

With the Bus strikes on tomorrow, how will Chelsea defend?

Ha.

Haha.

Haaaaaaaaaaa.

Agent Coulson

NukaCola wrote: »

No way! Really? Absolutely ridiculous if true.......

This is from a couple of years ago.

UEFA President, Michel Platini, threatened to punish Franck Ribéry if he refuses to play for the French National team. In an interview with the German Newspaper, Bild, Platini stated that according to the FIFA Statutes Ribéry must answer Didier Dechamps call if chosen to play. “If he does not come, he is suspended for three games with Bayern Munich,” said Platini to Marc Schmidt at Bild.

http://worldsoccertalk.com/2014/09/07/franck-ribery-will-face-suspension-if-he-refuses-to-play-for-french-national-team/

The rule is there whether or not it's ever been used I don't know.

BullBlackNova

Ciano35 wrote: »

Matip saying he's going to stay at Liverpool during the African cup:
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/joel-matip-stay-liverpool-go-11893825

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Isn't there a rule if a player refuses a call up for his Country they can block him from playing for his club while those internationals are being played.

Jesus, surely not? That seems like a mental rule!!

Anyway, you wouldn't expect Matip to play in the AFCON - he's had a self-imposed exile from international duty for about a year hasn't he?

We will lose Sadio Mané, though, but we won't be hit as badly as some sides. Leicester I think will lose 3 or 4 first teamers if I'm right - Mahrez, Slimani, Schlupp and Amartey? Everton too, actually, with Bolasie, Gueye, Koné...

Knex*

emmetkenny wrote: »

I'm going to miss the match now. Stupid lady leaving in work, and the rest of the clowns organising a meal for tonight

And now we have our second nominee for calling in dead.

Just tell them later on that something has come up, but you're hoping to catch up with them after the meal. Grayditch makes a solid point above, to be honest.

[Deleted User]

niallo27 wrote: »

I can't see anything but a liverpool win tomorrow. This game is made for the counter.

Yup, Chelsea will just play to our strengths :pac:

I'm less than confident of us keeping a clean sheet so we are in score 2 or 3 times to have a chance of 3 pts territory.....

[Deleted User]

NukaCola wrote: »

No way! Really? Absolutely ridiculous if true.......

I'd say it's like the police being required to cover you having a dump in public rule.... questionable if it exists and never enforced.

Old saying, club before country comes to mind.

Such a rule can be bypassed by periods of international football "retirement" as required in any case.

Cartman78

Grayditch wrote: »

That's like working outside of work, see ya after. If she's leaving she wont be there to hold it against you next week.

See how great with people I am?

With you on this one....am allergic to work events outside working hours.

And don't get me started on being practically force-fed cake every five minutes...."C'mon...it's Dave's 37th birthday", "We're having cake to celebrate Angela's new hairstyle" etc.

Anyway, back on topic, will be firing up the laptop and dodgy websites tonight. Will be disappointed if we don't win tbh.

Milkers

emmetkenny wrote: »

I'm going to miss the match now. Stupid lady leaving in work, and the rest of the clowns organising a meal for tonight

And the even bigger clowns who don't want to go but go anyway :pac:

J Mysterio

emmetkenny wrote: »

I'm going to miss the match now. Stupid lady leaving in work, and the rest of the clowns organising a meal for tonight

Get your priorities straight!

TitianGerm

Milkers wrote: »

And the even bigger clowns who don't want to go but go anyway :pac:

But free food and drink

I have the game recording so I'll be avoiding you fine gentlemen and watching the match later :P

ArmaniJeanss

NukaCola wrote: »

No way! Really? Absolutely ridiculous if true.......

BullBlackNova wrote: »

Jesus, surely not? That seems like a mental rule!!

Augeo wrote: »

I'd say it's like the police being required to cover you having a dump in public rule.... questionable if it exists and never enforced.

Such a rule can be bypassed by periods of international football "retirement" as required in any case.

When explained its actually an ok rule (and kind of necessary) and 'retirements' aren't a way to get around it.

What the rule stops is players (usually mid20s journeymen from low-profile countries unlikely to win anything) coming under financial pressure not to play international football, with clubs hinting that their next 3K a week contract could be slightly bumped if they aren't jetting off to Bolivia, Panama or Zaire 8 times a year.
With this rule in place theres no point in clubs attempting to make such conditions as players can/must travel regardless.

Mr.H

Are you guys kidding?

The international rule is always used. Anytime a player declares themselves "injured" for international duty they are banned from playing any club games for up to 3 days before and after the internationals.

It's to stop trams from pretending their players are injured just to keep them for important games. There are rarely club games that close to international games anymore though. The August international use to be the one that caught a lot of players

corwill

Mr.H wrote: »

Are you guys kidding?

The international rule is always used. Anytime a player declares themselves "injured" for international duty they are banned from playing any club games for up to 3 days before and after the internationals.

It's to stop trams from pretending their players are injured just to keep them for important games. There are rarely club games that close to international games anymore though. The August international use to be the one that caught a lot of players

The Luas are feckers for it, in fairness.

marklazarcovic

He can just retire from international duty,and come out of retirement when it suits

ArmaniJeanss

marklazarcovic wrote: »

He can just retire from international duty,and come out of retirement when it suits

There is no such getout clause as international retirement for the reasons I gave in my post above. If a country wants to call up a player who has retired from internationals then they can, and the players either turns up or else doesn't play for his club during the time of the call-up.

Most of the time its not an issue as retirements are usually on good terms.

Milkers

Something tells me the first time a footballer decides to challenge that in the European Court of Human Rights under right-to-work laws will be the last time FIFA or UEFA try to pull that stunt.

NukaCola

Mr.H wrote: »

Are you guys kidding?
The international rule is always used.
There are rarely club games that close to international games anymore though.

So its always used when it rarely happens :pac:

If you just dont want to play for your country I wasn't aware you could be suspended from playing for your club. I know players get "injured" and dont fancy an away friendly or whatever etc but If its a case you simply do not want to play its fairly mad to me that you cant play for the team that pays your bills. Technically you cant retire from International football either which seems mad.

8-10

Matip has already refused all callups this year without club suspension. Sure he didn't go for the recent International break and still played for Liverpool v Leicester

Agent Coulson

Steak, Chips, Beer & Whiskey all sorted now for Friday Night Football what a time to be alive.

ArmaniJeanss

8-10 wrote: »

Matip has already refused all callups this year without club suspension. Sure he didn't go for the recent International break and still played for Liverpool v Leicester

CameroonFA and their manager have expressed disappointment etc over those rejected callups, but haven't gone the nuclear option of insisting.

Best example of it becoming a big issue was Domenech/Makelele/Mourinho 10 years ago. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2344514/I-am-no-slave-says-Makelele.html

NukaCola

8-10 wrote: »

Matip has already refused all callups this year without club suspension. Sure he didn't go for the recent International break and still played for Liverpool v Leicester

I'm not sure how this really works but apparently you are banned from playing any club games for up to 3 days before and after the internationals if called up and the Leicester game was 4 days after the Cameroon game.

The issue is during the ACON, games will clash within that 3 day rule. I think anyway, I may be way off here.