thee glitz wrote: In a different position, she may have done anything. What she did do was tell her child they may have been aborted, but for financial reasons. I'm not being fair though - maybe it's not her fault her child is pro-abortion, so I take that part back.
January wrote: » Pushing women into travelling for abortions or to order pills online and take them at home is not safe. Abortions will always happen. 3 abortions a day happen here in ireland. That's not hospital abortions that is women ordering pills online to perform unsafe abortions in their own homes because they cannot afford to travel to England. We need to legislate for this medical procedure to be able to be carried out safely under the care of a doctor.
sup_dude wrote: » And why is that supposed to be upsetting?
gctest50 wrote: » Why is it her fault her child is pro-choice ? What's wrong with being pro-choice ?
thee glitz wrote: It's only upsetting if the mother brought the child up to be pro-abortion. That's saying I wouldn't wish upon you what you've done to me.
eviltwin wrote: » I think it's gas that some people believe that an actual baby is being killed but don't believe these pre meditated murderers should face justice.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » When Philomena Lynott was pregnant with Phil in England she tried a self administered abortion as she couldn't afford to go any of the back street places at the time. Boiled Gin and a handful of coins I believe. Oddly quite a common concoction as I've read it a few places now. Not sure if she ever told Phil though I read it in the book she wrote about him after he died.
sup_dude wrote: » Why though? What's upsetting about it?
thee glitz wrote: Telling your child you'd rather they were aborted isn't cool - not good for their esteem. It makes you the worst parent and a drain on humanity.
sup_dude wrote: » Only if they were told like that. However, just like the rest of your posts, you're going hysterical about it. I think you will find that it isn't necessarily a case of saying "I wish I'd aborted you" in a distasteful way without context. But I think you know that.
thee glitz wrote: If you tell a child that they might/would have been aborted but for financial reasons is one thing. To then raise them as pro-abortion is quite another. To do both, is to tell your child they weren't worth it.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » In Canada there have been calls for a lot of so called "live birth abortions" to be investigated as homicides. Guy in Louisiana has also recently been charged with feticide (along with murder) for killing a pregnant teacher (he was the vice principal). I think there should be legal consequences for sure (excluding abortions carried out for medical reasons) if abortion is illegal in that country. Certainly for any abortionist offering such a service anyway. I'd liked to have seen the following guy get 20 years anyway, but he only got 18 months:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/25/jail-for-mastermind-behind-late-abortions-clinic-exposed-by-the/
sup_dude wrote: » I really don't see how. Where is your line of thought behind this post? Also, I've never really heard of anyone being raised pro-abortion. Pro-choice, sure.
thee glitz wrote: » I think that if a mother tells their child that they mave have been aborted, it should be that they follow it up by explaining why they are now opposed to it. Why else would you do that to someone?
eviltwin wrote: » Do you think the woman who procures an illegal abortion here should face a legal sanction?
She has sought out someone to 'kill a baby', or possibly done so herself. Why not jail her the same way you'd jail someone who kills a six month old.
eviltwin wrote: » Why would you assume they are opposed to it now?
thee glitz wrote: » Because otherwise telling someone they may have been aborted would have been better left unsaid. I can't imagine that's nice to hear.
eviltwin wrote: » Depends on the context don't you think?
Depp wrote: » under what possible context is it going to be nice to hear that from your mother?
Depp wrote: under what possible context is it going to be nice to hear that from your mother?
eviltwin wrote: » If your mother tells you that under different circumstances she might have had an abortion why would you take that personally?
sup_dude wrote: » There's is a huge difference between "I wish I had aborted you" coming out of no where, and having a discussion on abortion in general and learning that your mother was under huge strains for various reasons and abortion was on the cards due to them.
thee glitz wrote: For sure, but now being pro-abortion availability signals that you still wish you had the choice to abort that kid.
sup_dude wrote: » Yes, that's the point of pro-choice. So?
Depp wrote: so your mother rings you up in the morning and says she should have been allowed to abort you you're just going to say thats grand ma you shouldve had your rights?
sup_dude wrote: » Yes, I'd have absolutely no problem with that because I would agree. I'm not sure why you're asking me that, since that is what pro-choice is... having the choice.
thee glitz wrote: It's about realising that you're better off now than you would have been had the law been different.
sup_dude wrote: » Better off how? That sounds like an incredibly selfish thing to say.
thee glitz wrote: Agreed, it's very selfish. Better off because you didn't abort your baby, and you've had the pleasure of raising them, experiencing all the love they give you.
sup_dude wrote: » But we were talking about from the now adult's point of view. You could take that last sentence of yours though, and apply it to any stage of the baby making process. Also, what if it isn't a pleasure to raise them?
Depp wrote: so you're honestly saying you'd be cool with your mam wishing she walked into a doctors surgery and ended you and everything you are before you even got started? I hope for your own sake you're talking rot or blindly following the narrative to make your point cause if thats how you actually feel thats f*cking depressing!
