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Would you break a law that was wrong?

steddyeddy

This interests me in case you haven't guessed. I lived in Tanzania and spent some time in other countries like Ethiopia where homosexuality was illegal. A friend of mine was volunteering there who was gay. He hid his sexuality but he did break the law privately in his own words.

In Ireland some consider the abortion laws as unethical and in Saudi Arabia women are repressed. If a law is what you consider to be morally wrong would you break it or abide by it?

I appreciate what is morally wrong is subjective.

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Winterlong

If I could get away with breaking a law that I did not agree with - then yeah.
Smoking the good stuff is a classic example.
Drinking after hours.

fleet_admiral

Im guilty of taking pens from the bookies, take me to the gallows

livedadream

jaywalking... i dont know anyone who actually abides by this law 100% of the time.

there's a scale- murder= bad
stealing= bad
jawalking=not as bad
lock-ins= not bad

all illegal.

steddyeddy

livedadream wrote: »

jaywalking... i dont know anyone who actually abides by this law 100% of the time.

there's a scale- murder= bad
stealing= bad
jawalking=not as bad

To Ethiopians homosexuality is pretty bad.

BrokenArrows

Ive been known to do a few digits over the legal speed limit. A 40 zone on a dual carriageway with huge lanes and no merging traffic is fundamentally and morally wrong.

livedadream

steddyeddy wrote: »

To Ethiopians homosexuality is pretty bad.

well you find idiots everywhere...

ScumLord

Certainly. You can't let some toff in a stupid wig restrict your experience of life.

BrokenArrows

fleet_admiral wrote: »

Im guilty of taking pens from the bookies, take me to the gallows

Or tiny pencils from argos.

Wanderer78

Regularly break the law, don't worry about it at all. Not all laws are there to help protect the majority

SmartinMartin

Jaywalking is not illegal in this country.

the evasion_kid

Yep customs and excise duty,i consider it thoroughly unjust

steddyeddy

livedadream wrote: »

well you find idiots everywhere...

True but unfortunately some idiots make the laws that govern a country.

livedadream

SmartinMartin wrote: »

Jaywalking is not illegal in this country.

Ireland has a jaywalking law that says that if you are within 50 metres of a pedestrian crossing you must use it to cross

Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) Regulations, 1997 (‘the Regulations’), wherein is stated:

46. (1) A pedestrian shall exercise care and take all reasonable precautions in order to avoid causing danger or inconvenience to traffic and other pedestrians.
(2) A pedestrian facing a traffic light lamp which shows a red light shall not proceed beyond that light.
(3) A pedestrian about to cross a roadway at a place where (…) [pedestrian lights] [have] been provided shall do so only when a lamp of the facing pedestrian lights is lit and emits a constant green light.

(…)

(7) On a roadway on which a (…) [pedestrian crossing] has been provided, a pedestrian shall not cross the roadway within 15 metres of the crossing, except by the crossing.

do you mean its not a criminal offence?

Stigura

Fifth Amendment ....!

Mr. CooL ICE

I once ignored a sign that said "stay off the grass"

Simi

Stigura wrote: »

Fifth Amendment ....!

The amendment that deleted the special position of the Catholic church??

endacl

I regularly break the blasphemy law. Victimless crime.

SmartinMartin

livedadream wrote: »

Ireland has a jaywalking law that says that if you are within 50 metres of a pedestrian crossing you must use it to cross

Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) Regulations, 1997 (‘the Regulations’), wherein is stated:

46. (1) A pedestrian shall exercise care and take all reasonable precautions in order to avoid causing danger or inconvenience to traffic and other pedestrians.
(2) A pedestrian facing a traffic light lamp which shows a red light shall not proceed beyond that light.
(3) A pedestrian about to cross a roadway at a place where (…) [pedestrian lights] [have] been provided shall do so only when a lamp of the facing pedestrian lights is lit and emits a constant green light.

(…)

(7) On a roadway on which a (…) [pedestrian crossing] has been provided, a pedestrian shall not cross the roadway within 15 metres of the crossing, except by the crossing.

do you mean its not a criminal offence?

Nope, I mean what I say. There is no general offence of jaywalking in this country. You are quoting the regulations relating to the use of a pedestrian crossing.

livedadream

SmartinMartin wrote: »

Nope, I mean what I say. There is no general offence of jaywalking in this country. You are quoting the regulations relating to the use of a pedestrian crossing.

dude i'm not going back and forth with you, jaywalking is ''to cross or walk in the street or road unlawfully or without regard for approaching traffic''

just because its not called jaywalking in the regulations doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

its covered by the Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) Regulations, 1997.

if you have another interpretation of jaywalking feel free to pm me to discuss other than that theres no need to derail the thread with the two of us going back and forth.

SmartinMartin

livedadream wrote: »

dude i'm not going back and forth with you, jaywalking is ''to cross or walk in the street or road unlawfully or without regard for approaching traffic''

just because its not called jaywalking in the regulations doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

its covered by the Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) Regulations, 1997.

if you have another interpretation of jaywalking feel free to pm me to discuss other than that theres no need to derail the thread with the two of us going back and forth.

That's an American definition. Jaywalking does not legally exist here.

Samaris

Well, pretty much like being religious and not following every word in the Old Testament, anyone living in a country that's been around more than a decade will have laws that people barely even know about, let alone follow. I doubt many people of respectable name and fortune in the UK practice archery for an hour a day in case the French invade.

I've probably broken the blasphemy law at some point or another. Any Jewish re-enactors probably didn't worry too much about their chainmail being illegal prior to 2006, and I doubt any French people here pay the French fine. While it's unlikely that many coffee makers here do mix sheep dung with their coffee, it probably isn't because of the legalities of it (yeah, specifically illegal! Cow dung is fine.) Also, and I don't know until how recently, Irish men were forbidden from owning white horses or having facial hair. The two are apparently not connected. In the North, it is still technically illegal to go to the cinema on a Sunday. Etcetera.

http://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/irelands-most-bizarre-laws/9455 For those and other weird laws here.

[Deleted User]

I've broken laws that are right.

YFlyer

Freeman on the Land crazies ignore all laws.

steddyeddy

Samaris wrote: »

Well, pretty much like being religious and not following every word in the Old Testament, anyone living in a country that's been around more than a decade will have laws that people barely even know about, let alone follow. I doubt many people of respectable name and fortune in the UK practice archery for an hour a day in case the French invade.

I've probably broken the blasphemy law at some point or another. Any Jewish re-enactors probably didn't worry too much about their chainmail being illegal prior to 2006, and I doubt any French people here pay the French fine. While it's unlikely that many coffee makers here do mix sheep dung with their coffee, it probably isn't because of the legalities of it (yeah, specifically illegal! Cow dung is fine.) Also, and I don't know until how recently, Irish men were forbidden from owning white horses or having facial hair. The two are apparently not connected. In the North, it is still technically illegal to go to the cinema on a Sunday. Etcetera.

http://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/irelands-most-bizarre-laws/9455 For those and other weird laws here.

I agree there are crazy laws like this but in Saudi and Ethiopia there are crazy laws which effect people just for their gender or sexuality.

sullivlo

Would travelling to the UK for an abortion count as breaking the law? It's not illegal in the UK, so no law was broken.

Ordering abortion pills online for delivery to Northern Ireland? Not illegal in NI to take the pills (IIRC), so no law broken.

Driving from Newry to Carlingford before taking the pills? Law broken.

What about duty free goods? Go to the Canaries on your holidays. Cigarettes are cheaper in the supermarket than they are here. Stock up. Bring them home. Don't declare them, despite having 1000 and your allowance being 200. Going to America on holidays and buying a new iPhone and taking advantage of the exchange rate. Don't declare it coming back to Ireland. Buying some hash in Amsterdam and getting through Dublin airport without the sniffer dogs getting you - not illegal in Amsterdam, illegal in Ireland.

A 17 year old girl having sex with a 16 year old guy - statutory rape. Or vice versa. What constitutes sex - if it was just getting handsy does that count? Is it just penis-in-vagina or would anal sex count? Blurred lines. And I don't think there are many people that didn't have some sort of below the belt fumble before reaching the legal age limit.

There are many, many blurred lines. I'm sure I've broken them. I'm sure I've even broken laws that I wasn't aware of existing!

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Tigger

livedadream wrote: »

Ireland has a jaywalking law that says that if you are within 50 metres of a pedestrian crossing you must use it to cross

Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) Regulations, 1997 (‘the Regulations’), wherein is stated:

46. (1) A pedestrian shall exercise care and take all reasonable precautions in order to avoid causing danger or inconvenience to traffic and other pedestrians.
(2) A pedestrian facing a traffic light lamp which shows a red light shall not proceed beyond that light.
(3) A pedestrian about to cross a roadway at a place where (…) [pedestrian lights] [have] been provided shall do so only when a lamp of the facing pedestrian lights is lit and emits a constant green light.

(…)

(7) On a roadway on which a (…) [pedestrian crossing] has been provided, a pedestrian shall not cross the roadway within 15 metres of the crossing, except by the crossing.

do you mean its not a criminal offence?

1 dosent mention jaywalking
2 15 m

eviltwin

I've broken a few motoring ones, speeding, driving without a valid tax disc. Have broken the blasphemy one, taken drugs, drank in public, been naked in public - not sure if those last two are even laws. Some are silly like the ban on using abortion pills and the ban on homosexuality when that was the case. I reckon most of us have done something illegal at one point.

batistuta9

steddyeddy wrote: »

To Ethiopians homosexuality is pretty bad.

It depends on the punishment and/or the chances of getting caught is the answer