Depp wrote: » where did i say this? the doctor should have his license revoked and he should be punished, also we dont have capital punishment here so theres that... an abortion is not a back up form of contraception and shouldn't be under any circumstances. Whatever way you look at it an abortion is the ending of a human life and that shouldn't be done cause you or your partner failed to use correct contraception. We as humans are not perfect and make many mistakes in our lives, we have to live with these mistakes its part of life. Those are your views and I respect that, I agree women should have freedom to travel I just don't want it happening here with my tax money helping to fund it.
lawlolawl wrote: » What mind? It doesn't have one at that stage.
AbusesToilets wrote: » I always am struck by the contrast in those who decry abortion and argue so passionately for the right to life for a fetus, yet couldn't give a toss for the child (and mother) after birth. Abortion isn't some brutal, traumatic experience. It's a normal out patient medical procedure, little different from getting a tooth pulled.
rjpf1980 wrote: » So the doctors nurses adminstrators secretarial staff at the abortion clinic and maybe the medical waste disposal staff who carry away the "dead babies" should get life or in certain jurisdiction the death penalty right?
rjpf1980 wrote: » The woman who has an unwanted pregnancy after a drunken one night stand or has a fling with her neighbor or work colleague behind her husband's back or decides to have a termination because she has three kids and can't t cope with a fourth etc etc should NOT get life or a possible death sentence? What she did was "murder" right? That's what you believe right? So surely logic would tell you there should be the same punishment ad any other murder right?
rjpf1980 wrote: » Thankfully abortion is legal in England and other jurisdictions and women have the freedom to travel.
osarusan wrote: » Any chance you could give this shyte a rest?
Depp wrote: » very strangely framed op suggesting that all pro life people are this, all pro life people are that. I'd identify as pro life to an extent, if bearing the child for the full term is a danger to the mother I believe aborting the foetus should be allowed but unrestricted abortions shouldn't be allowed. A childs life is not something to be thrown quite literally in a bin just because its inconvenient. Don't think the mother should be punished, going through the experience of an abortion and everything that goes with it is bad enough. Any doctor however who performs the procedure other than in the interest of saving the mothers life, should be struck from the register and punished severely. I understand there are some hardliners no denying it but most level headed pro-life people I have come into contact with have similar views on the topic, to suggest most pro-lifers want the mother punished and some want her executed is incredibly disingenuous
rjpf1980 wrote: » The country would have to build vast prisons to hold all these people plus employ thousands of wardens and armed guards and soldiers to stop mass escapes.
rjpf1980 wrote: » No woman could be trusted so any pregnant woman would probably have to be detained until they give birth and watched 24/7 to prevent them from self harming? And if they were caught planning an abortion they would have to be thrown in prison for attempted murder right?
gandalf wrote: » Knowing the Anti-choice brigade they probably want the Magdalene laundries reopened and the women interned there for their "sins".
DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: » I don't think they do tbh. I don't think that anybody out there embraces the reality of what an abortion is. It's a horrendous experience for any woman to go through. It's something that they will have to live for the rest of their lives. Life is not black and white, sometimes women might need that choice to terminate the child they're carrying. Don't forget that they're could a father suffering for it too. Be very careful before you judge a couple who decide on an abortion
AbusesToilets wrote: » Abortion isn't some brutal, traumatic experience. It's a normal out patient medical procedure, little different from getting a tooth pulled.
nozzferrahhtoo wrote: » Not sure what anthropomorphizing the fetus and presuming to know it's mind does for the discussion myself.
applehunter wrote: » I'll speak for the unborn child. "I would prefer to live than be killed."
applehunter wrote: » one for the legal egales. I Presume a custodial sentence.
Grayson wrote: » She didn't have a child. She was pregnant but hadn't given birth.
Donald Trump wrote: » Look stop twisting things. I said "childless".
Grayson wrote: » Sure we do.
Donald Trump wrote: » If you want to play that game of semantics, then pro-life people are not pro-forcing women to procreate either. They don't see a childless woman and think "lets force her to have a child"
endacl wrote: » Perhaps you ought to consider not making them in that case?
humberklog wrote: » Too late.
Donald Trump wrote: » Ehhh, try reading it again. :pac: A "pro-lifer" sees a random childless woman on the street. They don't think that she should be raped and forced to give birth to a child. I think that it is a scumbag thing to do to use women who have been raped as a tool to try to push your own angle. It's completely scummy and vulture-like. Do those type of people sit around in a room hoping that a woman will be raped and impregnated so that they can use her as a poster girl?
Donald Trump wrote: » I'm fed up with the over-simplistic arguments.
Decent Skin wrote: » Actually if she's raped they're doing exactly that.
endacl wrote: » I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts that extreme examples are the only examples you could come up with though. And that extreme example you gave isn't looking at the issue from the point of view of either a pro choice or pro life position. I'd imagine we can all agree that 'anti-human' is just a bonkers position. I think we can disregard the bonkers. And no, of course nobody would think 'let's force her to have a child'. Kinda what pro-choice is all about. Owner of the womb decides. I'm glad we can agree on that very salient point.
