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Eircode - its implemetation (merged)

beveragelady

I called An Post today to try to sort out a problem with deliveries. The customer service chap was very helpful and I think it all got sorted.
The thing is, I tried to give him my Eircode because I live at a vague rural address but he said that they're not using them because the system isn't set up.
Amazed!
It's bad enough that they're no good to users of satnavs or google maps, but this is just astonishing. Can anybody explain how this could have been launched to such fanfare when it's all but meaningless?

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Sam Russell

I tried my own and that worked. I tried my cousins house (which is non-unique) and that did not work.

So, what does that mean?

MBSnr

WHOA!!

Just put an eircode in Google Maps and it resolved to the house... Checked another and it also did. The 3rd didn't...

Someone please check...

[Deleted User]

I recently received a couple of letters with printed address labels on them and the postcode handwritten under the address.
Don't know whether it was someone in An Post or the sender adding it on.

sondagefaux

ukoda wrote: »

https://twitter.com/braycfr/status/759452652862308353

It's fairly obvious that opponents of Eircode will have to accept that many first responders are fans of Eircode.

sondagefaux

BoatMad wrote: »

plodder wrote: »

Your photographic image is personal data and CCTV is on trains for only limited purposes like security. So using it for other purposes (like rebutting Corbyn's political point) would be a breach. I see the case is being investigated by their DP watchdog.

your image in a public place is not personal data in general

CCTV images gathered by operators of CCTV systems are covered by Data Protection law across the EU.

Virgin didn't release photos of Corbyn taken by members of the public to the media.

It released still images derived from its on-train CCTV systems to the media.

BoatMad

plodder wrote: »

Your photographic image is personal data and CCTV is on trains for only limited purposes like security. So using it for other purposes (like rebutting Corbyn's political point) would be a breach. I see the case is being investigated by their DP watchdog.

your image in a public place is not personal data in general

Sam Russell

Mod: Can we leave Loc8 out of this thread. They are off-topic.

TheChizler

Very unprofessional carry on from loc8.

ukoda

https://twitter.com/braycfr/status/759452652862308353

ukoda

A lot of support from first responders for eircode on Twitter
Few samples:

https://twitter.com/traleeresponder/status/770936026474876928

https://twitter.com/traleeresponder/status/770936026474876928

https://twitter.com/ferns_cfr/status/768847976534052868

https://twitter.com/trimcfr/status/767150185235480576

Bray Head

Bringing up lat/long is also bizarre.

Huge potential for data entry/transmission error when using 18 digits.

McAlban

Loc8 Code and "GetLostEircode" on Twitter are hilarious to watch.

Like small children throwing a tantrum.

sondagefaux

ukoda wrote: »

Interesting

https://twitter.com/ferns_cfr/status/768847976534052868

Gotta love the way that loc8 jump right in and tell people who use Eircodes that they're not actually using them...

It's also obvious that National Ambulance Service (NAS) call handlers are asking people who call 999/112 for their Eircodes and using them to direct first responders and ambulances.

ukoda

Interesting

https://twitter.com/ferns_cfr/status/768847976534052868

[Deleted User]

plodder wrote: »

Your photographic image is personal data and CCTV is on trains for only limited purposes like security. So using it for other purposes (like rebutting Corbyn's political point) would be a breach. I see the case is being investigated by their DP watchdog.

Considering the fact that he had a camera crew with him, I would say that any case brought against Virgin would be thrown out.

plodder

BoatMad wrote: »

why would it be a data protection breach ?

Your photographic image is personal data and CCTV is on trains for only limited purposes like security. So using it for other purposes (like rebutting Corbyn's political point) would be a breach. I see the case is being investigated by their DP watchdog.

BoatMad

OT, but what's interesting about that is Branson would have known that publishing that CCTV was a data protection breach

why would it be a data protection breach ?

plodder

selastich2 wrote: »

nationalise

OT, but what's interesting about that is Branson would have known that publishing that CCTV was a data protection breach. He probably went ahead anyway as he figured that Corbyn would be too embarrassed to do anything about it, and that it was worth the risk, in case he gets into power and does try to nationalise Virgin Trains.

selastich2

sondagefaux wrote: »

Corbyn was trying to privatise trains? :ermm:

nationalise

plodder

L1011 wrote: »

Because it's been pasted here for months

I must have overlooked it. I'd be interested to see where it was posted too (first). Can't ask Smondie as he appears to have been banned.

sondagefaux

Corbyn was trying to privatise trains? :ermm:

selastich2

L1011 wrote: »

Because it's been pasted here for months

do you have any link to the first time or any time it was posted? Did you see the thing on twitter earlier with Jermery Corban in the uk where he took a picture of himself sitting on the floor if the virgin train, claiming there was no seats. He was using it as a campaign to nationalise the trains. Richard Branson tweeted the real footage and it showed lots of empty seats and that Corbon only sat on the floor for the photo opportunity.

this could be an expose just like that :eek: :pac:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3757395/Corbyn-s-Virgin-train-stunt-shows-s-stuck-1970s.html

L1011

plodder wrote: »

How do you know when that email was sent?

Because it's been pasted here for months

McAlban

An Post are using Eircodes for other services, such as delivery box and other products. Just not for planning the mail deliveries.

Don't they own Data Ireland? Who are an Eircode provider.

plodder

L1011 wrote: »

I have a feeling that trotting out an email from some time ago when its pretty obvious they're making efforts to encourage their use now is rather pointless.

How do you know when that email was sent?

L1011

I have a feeling that trotting out an email from some time ago when its pretty obvious they're making efforts to encourage their use now is rather pointless.

Smondie

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chewed

If An Post don't use eircodes, who is putting that "Remember to use your Eircode" stamp on letters?

oscarBravo

Smondie wrote: »

Here is an e-mail I got from an post confirming they do not use eircodes as they are a different company

That's a pretty stupid thing to say. I use Eircodes, even though they're a different company. Is he trying to claim that Eircodes were created by Capita for their own exclusive use?

Smondie

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