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Eircode - its implemetation (merged)

beveragelady

I called An Post today to try to sort out a problem with deliveries. The customer service chap was very helpful and I think it all got sorted.
The thing is, I tried to give him my Eircode because I live at a vague rural address but he said that they're not using them because the system isn't set up.
Amazed!
It's bad enough that they're no good to users of satnavs or google maps, but this is just astonishing. Can anybody explain how this could have been launched to such fanfare when it's all but meaningless?

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ukoda

Interesting

https://twitter.com/ferns_cfr/status/768847976534052868

sondagefaux

ukoda wrote: »

Interesting

https://twitter.com/ferns_cfr/status/768847976534052868

Gotta love the way that loc8 jump right in and tell people who use Eircodes that they're not actually using them...

It's also obvious that National Ambulance Service (NAS) call handlers are asking people who call 999/112 for their Eircodes and using them to direct first responders and ambulances.

McAlban

Loc8 Code and "GetLostEircode" on Twitter are hilarious to watch.

Like small children throwing a tantrum.

Bray Head

Bringing up lat/long is also bizarre.

Huge potential for data entry/transmission error when using 18 digits.

ukoda

A lot of support from first responders for eircode on Twitter
Few samples:

https://twitter.com/traleeresponder/status/770936026474876928

https://twitter.com/traleeresponder/status/770936026474876928

https://twitter.com/ferns_cfr/status/768847976534052868

https://twitter.com/trimcfr/status/767150185235480576

ukoda

https://twitter.com/braycfr/status/759452652862308353

TheChizler

Very unprofessional carry on from loc8.

Sam Russell

Mod: Can we leave Loc8 out of this thread. They are off-topic.

BoatMad

plodder wrote: »

Your photographic image is personal data and CCTV is on trains for only limited purposes like security. So using it for other purposes (like rebutting Corbyn's political point) would be a breach. I see the case is being investigated by their DP watchdog.

your image in a public place is not personal data in general

sondagefaux

BoatMad wrote: »

plodder wrote: »

Your photographic image is personal data and CCTV is on trains for only limited purposes like security. So using it for other purposes (like rebutting Corbyn's political point) would be a breach. I see the case is being investigated by their DP watchdog.

your image in a public place is not personal data in general

CCTV images gathered by operators of CCTV systems are covered by Data Protection law across the EU.

Virgin didn't release photos of Corbyn taken by members of the public to the media.

It released still images derived from its on-train CCTV systems to the media.

sondagefaux

ukoda wrote: »

https://twitter.com/braycfr/status/759452652862308353

It's fairly obvious that opponents of Eircode will have to accept that many first responders are fans of Eircode.

[Deleted User]

I recently received a couple of letters with printed address labels on them and the postcode handwritten under the address.
Don't know whether it was someone in An Post or the sender adding it on.

MBSnr

WHOA!!

Just put an eircode in Google Maps and it resolved to the house... Checked another and it also did. The 3rd didn't...

Someone please check...

Sam Russell

I tried my own and that worked. I tried my cousins house (which is non-unique) and that did not work.

So, what does that mean?

ukoda

Sam Russell wrote: »

I tried my own and that worked. I tried my cousins house (which is non-unique) and that did not work.

So, what does that mean?

Mine worked and so did a few others!! It's happening lads!

I'd assume they are in the process of doing it and aren't 100% ready yet

MBSnr

Sam Russell wrote: »

I tried my own and that worked. I tried my cousins house (which is non-unique) and that did not work.

So, what does that mean?

See main thread I started in Infra forum. Mine is wrong. It seems that they are not applying the correct area sort code and perhaps basing it on your location in Google Maps if the last 4 digits match. I'm in Galway now and it gave me H91 XXXX (my 4 last digits) instead of my correct postal area code and XXXX...

ukoda

One for the GPO works

gctest50

Probably works if you do this too :

https://www.google.com/maps/place/D01+N971

MBSnr

gctest50 wrote: »

Probably works if you do this too :

https://www.google.com/maps/place/D01+N971

Nope.

Got H65 N971 instead. Same last 4 digits...

_kookie

What do you do if they have given the wrong Eircode to you.
I have one that pints to a house about a km down the road.
I contacted Eircode, emailed them the code they gave me, sent maps and all they did was sent me an email telling me that it was not their concern.

So what do I do now?

ukoda

_kookie wrote: »

What do you do if they have given the wrong Eircode to you.
I have one that pints to a house about a km down the road.
I contacted Eircode, emailed them the code they gave me, sent maps and all they did was sent me an email telling me that it was not their concern.

So what do I do now?

It's An Post you need to contact

GJG

I've just tested the directions function to route between two non-unique rural addresses. Worked perfectly. I used one address that is particularly difficult to find, on a warren of rural roads that all share the same address.

I have stuck in two Eircodes into this sample search, try your own on either field. Anyone get any anomolous results?

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chewed

So Eircodes are now working on Google Maps? When did this roll out? How come there's not more of a big announcement?

ukoda

chewed wrote: »

So Eircodes are now working on Google Maps? When did this roll out? How come there's not more of a big announcement?

We think it's beta testing since this morning, so no announcement as it isn't officially supported yet

GJG

ukoda wrote: »

chewed wrote: »

So Eircodes are now working on Google Maps? When did this roll out? How come there's not more of a big announcement?

We think it's beta testing since this morning, so no announcement as it isn't officially supported yet

Correct. Not all codes are uploaded yet, but for the ones in there it's working perfectly. I'd imagine they will make an announcement when the full data set goes live.

Sam Russell

chewed wrote: »

So Eircodes are now working on Google Maps? When did this roll out? How come there's not more of a big announcement?

ukoda wrote: »

We think it's beta testing since this morning, so no announcement as it isn't officially supported yet

Well, it works on some but not on others. I would think it is not actually meant to be working, but sneaked out.

chewed

Sam Russell wrote: »

Well, it works on some but not on others. I would think it is not actually meant to be working, but sneaked out.

Yeah, I noticed some codes weren't working! Good news though.

1huge1

Working for my parents parents place in rural county limerick,but not my place in Dublin, they seem to be working on it at last, great news.

[Deleted User]

works for my home address

sondagefaux

This is from autoaddress:

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[font=Arial, sans-serif]#Eircode now in beta support in @googlemaps It is a bit hit and miss at the moment, but we expect Google will solve that quickly.[/font]

I just tried it with two friends' Eircodes (both unique addresses in Dublin, one with a street number, the other with a house name). It worked for both. It also worked for directions between the two addresses.

I then tried it with my sister's address (non-unique, in a rural townland in Co. Cork) - it didn't work.

However, Google Maps Ireland did suggest the "Add a missing place to Google Maps" option when I entered her full Eircode.

So I added the Eircode as a place/destination to Google Maps, which I did by logging-in to Google Maps (using my gmail account), then adding the name of the townland, selecting 'Restaurant' in the Category field (so it would show up in public results on Google Maps, selecting 'Home' as the Category means it will only show up on Google Maps to yourself), and dragging the red pin onto the exact spot where my sister's house is (luckily it shows up in satellite imagery).

I then logged out of my Google account, and checked it for directions, using my home in England as the starting point, with my sister's Eircode as the final destination.

The result was a perfect route, from outside my house to the entrance to my sister's house.

If Google Maps isn't going to add Eircodes to non-unique addresses (or if it's going to do so slowly), I think the method I used to add my sister's house to Google Maps could be the best one for businesses of all kinds, including tourist accommodation such as B&Bs, located in rural townlands where there are no unique addresses.

If a B&B owner in rural Ireland wants to add their Eircode to Google Maps, they can find their Eircode (check on Eircode Finder: https://finder.eircode.ie/#/), then type it in to Google Maps, then if Google Maps suggests "Add a missing place to Google Maps", add it by using the method I've outlined above, selecting an appropriate category.

Businesses can add their web addresses, phone numbers and opening hours if they choose to, although none of these are required fields.

From what I can see, in this beta phase, Google Maps has updated (all/many?) unique Irish addresses with their Eircodes, and now allows you to enter Eircodes to display the location of those addresses on Google Maps, with Direction functionality included.

However, Google Maps doesn't seem to have updated all non-unique Irish addresses with Eircodes yet and it could be some time before they sort this out.

Once it's finished, this is probably going to lead to a massive uptake in the use of Eircodes.

I'd suggest that it might be easier for Google Maps to initially confine itself to adding Eircodes to businesses with non-unique addresses, almost all of which will be in rural townlands.

Once the Eircodes of rural businesses are added, along with the Eircodes for unique addresses in cities, towns and villages, Eircode functionality on Google Maps will be very good for most people, and adding Eircodes to all non-unique rural townland addresses can be rolled out more gradually - Co. Cork would be a good place to start, since Cork city and county combined have about 12% of the total population and Co. Cork is the largest county in terms of area.

This is the major boost that Eircodes have been waiting for.

I'd imagine that within a few months it will become commonplace for people living in rural areas to give their Eircode to people looking for directions and tell them to put it into Google Maps.

It's also going to be a huge boost to B&Bs etc, along with all other rural businesses, who can now put their Eircodes on all their publicity materials, and in all customer contacts, to allow people to find them using Google Maps.

Eircode should start publicising the fact that Google Maps has started to add Eircode functionality, and get some ads on TV to explain how useful this is going to be, especially to rural dwellers and businesses.