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Encouraging rural people to the cities

Kermit.de.frog

Isn't it about time we have a strategy to depopulate rural areas and villages and "encourage" the locals to move to Dublin?

We are wasting vast sums of money trying to bring infrastructure to these desolate areas like broadband, roads, rail and stuff. This makes no economic or practical sense.

In return we get the country parochialism and gombeen politics foisted on us in Leinster House.

The theory is if they move to the Dublin area there is the critical mass of infrastructure and supports there. It could make people more sophisticated and open up new opportunities for their children (instead of emigration) and help nurture more progressive, liberal attitudes among them.

We should stop trying to bring Dublin standards of living to farms and one off housing in Mayo and Donegal. Instead lets encourage the locals to leave these areas and save a sh!t load of time and money.

They should move to Dublin. (Don't bother with Cork)

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nhunter100

511 wrote:

Would the words of the former Department of Finance secretary general do?

Ah the dept of finance, a shining beacon of foretelling. They got the soft landing right....oh wait!

buried

Islamic state logic this is. Make everybody live in certain areas where the law can be ordered to the entire population by loudspeaker. Fascism can't afford broadband

fox0512

hahaha....no thanks, I like my rural setting,it allowed me to be semi retired at 40 because I didnt have to pay .5mill for a shoe box!

Elliott S

The Backwards Man wrote: »

No nerves are hit here, you're the one getting all excited. Why would we lower our standard of living to a Dublin level? Have to walk to a bus stop rather than get in the car at the front door and drive to the door of wherever we're going? Have to visit relations we don't like in hospital because we haven't the excuse that it's too far away and the dog will eat the sofa if we leave her alone too long? Have to order all our shopping online because we're too scared to go down the town amidst the hordes of junkies, chuggers, and Sky salespeople?

Is this post supposed to match the OP for bizarreness but on the other side of the argument? That appears to be the aim. Hopefully.

drunkmonkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgqM7zrgCLI

jigglypuffstuff

fox0512 wrote: »

hahaha....no thanks, I like my rural setting,it allowed me to be semi retired at 40 because I didnt have to pay .5mill for a shoe box!

Drops Mic.....

Moo Moo Land

madmac187 wrote: »

No one wants to live in Dublin because it's ****e! As an educated culchie why would you want to be near the scum and filth of Dublin!

I'd rather relocate to Kabul.

NegativeCreep

Can't we all just get along?

[Deleted User]

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Isn't it about time we have a strategy to depopulate rural areas and villages and "encourage" the locals to move to Dublin?

We are wasting vast sums of money trying to bring infrastructure to these desolate areas like broadband, roads, rail and stuff. This makes no economic or practical sense.

In return we get the country parochialism and gombeen politics foisted on us in Leinster House.

The theory is if they move to the Dublin area there is the critical mass of infrastructure and supports there. It could make people more sophisticated and open up new opportunities for their children (instead of emigration) and help nurture more progressive, liberal attitudes among them.

We should stop trying to bring Dublin standards of living to farms and one off housing in Mayo and Donegal. Instead lets encourage the locals to leave these areas and save a sh!t load of time and money.

They should move to Dublin. (Don't bother with Cork)

Jeez where to even start! :mad:

Is there even a point explaining to you how utterly stupid your post is? Please leave boards and leave debating to more analytically minded people please.

flazio

And tell me this Kermit, where do you think the food on your table, the milk in your fridge, the very air you breathe came from?

[Deleted User]

flazio wrote: »

And tell me this Kermit, where do you think the food on your table, the milk in your fridge, the very air you breathe came from?

a) probably thinks the packet
b) Probably thinks the carton/bottle

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

flazio wrote: »

And tell me this Kermit, where do you think the food on your table, the milk in your fridge, the very air you breathe came from?

Deleted User wrote: »

a) probably thinks the packet
b) Probably thinks the carton/bottle

Well food comes from the countryside, but it is paid for by CAP, which in turn is funded by urban areas, which pretty much agrees with the point made in the OP in that rural life is indeed subsidised.

[Deleted User]

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Well food comes from the countryside, but it is paid for by CAP, which in turn is funded by urban areas, which does pretty much agrees with the point made in the OP in that rural life is indeed subsidised.

And if everyone lives in Dublin/larger urban areas then who is going to milk the cows or cut the silage or harvest the corn and wheat? Where are they going to come out of? thin air?

buried

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Well food comes from the countryside, but it is paid for by CAP, which in turn is funded by urban areas, which pretty much agrees with the point made in the OP in that rural life is indeed subsidised.

So whats the alternative? As you said "food comes from the countryside", but the likes of you and Kermit want to eradicate the countryside population, so where do we get the food after the countryside population is eradicated?

RobertKK

I don't want to live in a shoe box.

[Deleted User]

buried wrote: »

So whats the alternative? As you said "food comes from the countryside", but the likes of you and Kermit want to eradicate the countryside population, so where do we get the food after the countryside population is eradicated?

And this 'urban areas pay for it' attitude too. The farmers work long and hard hours and at one stage were producing milk at a loss (may even still be).

Kermit.de.frog

flazio wrote: »

And tell me this Kermit, where do you think the food on your table, the milk in your fridge, the very air you breathe came from?

Well, on your first points we don't even need to produce food in Ireland, we can import. Producing food in Ireland is expensive and as pointed out subsidised. On your last point regarding oxygen we could go in to the start of the solar system etc but it's not relevant. Ireland is not responsible for the global supply of hydrogen and CO2.

Ruu

I don't like the look of those city folk. Besides it smells like wee in big cities not to mention the streets littered with syringes and drunks. I'll sit in my country house thanks very much.

[Deleted User]

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Well, on your first points we don't even need to produce food in Ireland, we can import. Producing food in Ireland is expensive and as pointed out subsidised. On your last point regarding oxygen we could go in to the start of the solar system etc but it's not relevant. Ireland is not responsible for the global supply of hydrogen and CO2.

Yeah, we "DONT NEED TO":rolleyes: but its probably more advisable that we do because it probably would be more a cost effective solution. Something which you bizarrely claimed that your 'idea' claims to be advocating.

Look at Sugar production. After closing down sugar factories in Carlow (2k jobs lost) and other parts of the country it turns out that sugar production was cheaper in ireland after all.

So how do you propose to handle the extra traffic on the m50 kermit? or to squash another 3m people or so people within Dublin County??? Havent really thought this through have you?! ah bless the standard of education in Dublin :rolleyes:

lawlolawl

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Well, on your first points we don't even need to produce food in Ireland, we can import. Producing food in Ireland is expensive and as pointed out subsidised. On your last point regarding oxygen we could go in to the start of the solar system etc but it's not relevant. Ireland is not responsible for the global supply of hydrogen and CO2.

I'm sure that importing most of our food, including perishables, would be cheaper than producing it here.

Let's just cut down every tree and plant in the country and turn it all into urban sprawl and Dublin GAA jerseys as far as the eye can see.

We can add a bunch of lead to the water supply at the same time so that everyone will end up as braindead as your average Dublin native.

boobar

Encouraging rural people to the cities?

Just pretend every day is the 8th of December...

[Deleted User]

RobertKK wrote: »

I don't want to live in a shoe box.

I wouldnt live in a stately home in that kip let alone a shoe box.

fox0512

"I don't like the look of those city folk. Besides it smells like wee in big cities not to mention the streets littered with syringes and drunks. I'll sit in my country house thanks very much"

Thread is cracking me up haha

buried

Deleted User wrote: »

And this 'urban areas pay for it' attitude too. The farmers work long and hard hours and at one stage were producing milk at a loss (may even still be).

Some people up in here would have no problem buying stuff from the 'Irish Countryside', even including the air they breathe, as long as they were buying it from the likes of some international corporate Tesco-like kipshop running a huge ranch over the entire Irish countryside. That's the truth. That's why they are so enraged too, they know its never going to happen

[Deleted User]

buried wrote: »

Some people up in here would have no problem buying stuff from the 'Irish Countryside', even including the air they breathe, as long as they were buying it from the likes of some international corporate Tesco-like kipshop running a huge ranch over the entire Irish countryside. That's the truth. That's why they are so enraged too, they know its never going to happen

These attacks on rural Ireland are beginning to stick into my craw. And they are made by generally dumb, lackwitted, ignorant individuals who dont do their homework before they talk such shíte. The same type of people fell for lies on their own doorstep from the likes of Bertie Ahern, Liam Lawlor and Ray Burke in their time and yet they have the cheek to attack other parts of ireland. if they want to identify gombeens, they need to look closer to home

buried

Deleted User wrote: »

These attacks on rural Ireland are beginning to stick into my craw. And they are made by generally dumb, lackwitted, ignorant individuals who dont do their homework before they talk such shíte. The same type of people fell for lies on their own doorstep from the likes of Bertie Ahern, Liam Lawlor and Ray Burke in their time and yet they have the cheek to attack other parts of ireland. if they want to identify gombeens, they need to look closer to home

Just ignore all those online attacks Tipp. The greatest thing about real Ireland, both urban and rural, is that Ireland still has a good appreciation of community. Especially in rural areas. Bureaucracy has being trying to kill it but it can't. It won't either.

Fleawuss

511 wrote: »

Would the words of the former Department of Finance secretary general do?

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2016/news/state-cant-afford-rural-ireland-moran-34694927.html

Subsidizing rural Ireland is getting more and more expensive.

The move is on anyway. If we want a sustainable society we need a sustainable economy: saying move to Dublin is too literal. Move to larger population centers where services can be provided more effectively might sound better. I saw something on the news tonight about a place called Roosky that had a meat factory years ago then that burned down and its ****ed since. The usual stuff going on: bit of tourism bit of boating. The guy from the development company said it but the irony was lost on him: we need people he said. Fewer and fewer people want to live in out of the way places. People want to be where there's life and energy. The days when standing outside the church on a Sunday morning and going to the pub then the match was enough for people are long gone.

We need to bring calm rational planning to our future. Not sentimentality. Good job this isn't reddit or I'd be down voted to fcuk!

[Deleted User]

Fleawuss wrote: »

The move is on anyway. If we want a sustainable society we need a sustainable economy: saying move to Dublin is too literal. Move to larger population centers where services can be provided more effectively might sound better. I saw something on the news tonight about a place called Roosky that had a meat factory years ago then that burned down and its ****ed since. The usual stuff going on: bit of tourism bit of boating. The guy from the development company said it but the irony was lost on him: we need people he said. Fewer and fewer people want to live in out of the way places. People want to be where there's life and energy. The days when standing outside the church on a Sunday morning and going to the pub then the match was enough for people are long gone.

We need to bring calm rational planning to our future. Not sentimentality. Good job this isn't reddit or I'd be down voted to fcuk!

oh your not going to get away lightly here either i promise.

There is plenty in rural ireland to keep people going. You a making a generalisation based on ignorant and biased assumptions.

I personally would crack up in a city. Urban Ireland can be every bit as isolating if not more than rural. Added to that you have gangland crime in both Limerick and Dublin where you are not even safe having a drink in your local pub any more.

id like to suggest it might be a better idea for urban dwellers to move to rural areas in order to broaden your horizons and get away from it all but fact is we actually dont want you so stay where you are :pac:

goz83

Hilarious. Some numpty throws out some sh!tty post as bait and the amount of gombeens who bite is just amazing. :rolleyes:

[Deleted User]

goz83 wrote: »

Hilarious. Some numpty throws out some sh!tty post as bait and the amount of gombeens who bite is just amazing. :rolleyes:

Well the thing is, i thought there was a rule against trolling on this thread but it would seem the mods have let it run so on that basis we can only assume it to be a 'genuine' post.