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Attachment to Brand Names

FTA69

The other day I was watching a show about budgeting and one particular family when doing their weekly shop would only buy brand name products which as such drove up the price massively. It reminded me of my ex who was pretty much the same and if I didn't buy a certain brand of ketchup or orange juice or cereal she'd go spare - I never used to notice the difference and tend not to eat stuff that comes in packets anyway.

For instance I got some face wash in Lidl the other day for a pound, and also have a Nivea one that cost me £4; I mean is the latter going to make my face 400% cleaner at the end of the day?

Besides the odd exception, I find the supermarket stuff is nearly always the same as the brand name stuff on offer and any slight difference is worth it when you figure the cost difference. The only brand stuff I get is Barry's Tea and truth be told that's probably for nostalgic reasons more than anything. Are we completely shaped by advertising to the point people will spend four times as much for essentially the same product?

Or am I just a tasteless bastard who'll eat anything?

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setanta1984

Grandeeod wrote: »

Yes its true.

Its called Kerrygold spreadable with all the added oil. Exactly like Dairygold. Available in Sainsburys and Waitrose.

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/all-butter---spreads/kerrygold-spreadable-400g

:O

I tried this one from Tesco - http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=277302524 which is not the same at all, its the only kerrygold they had.

They better have that one in my local Sainsburys - if it is true dairygold I will love you forever...

Samaris

seamus wrote: »

So I'd say the nuances between recipies are quite well detectable for items like that, because there are many different ways of doing it.

Even moreso things like tea that we don't even grow here, and where the preparation makes all the difference, someone is talking out of their hat if they claim they can tell a difference between lyons and barrys.

You're probably right on that - plus, as a condiment it is much -more- strongly flavoured than most things, so it's more obvious.

I suspect, and I can't recall if I read this or if it's just seeming logical to me, that toothpaste is because it's an attachment formed in early childhood and reinforced every day, morning and night. What foodstuffs do people eat that constantly? I can't think of any off the top of my head, bar perhaps milk, if you're not lactose-intolerant anyway.

Colgate for me, although I have branched out a bit since I moved countries for a few years there. (And yeah, Kerrygold is widely available in the UK, don't think Dairygold is though). Hated Aquafresh the first few times I tried it, pretty okay across the usual brands now. I do still get branded toothpastes though. With all their promises that I suspect in my heart are bull. But they got me.

Edit: Friend just brought up shampoo, which is a good one. I reckon there -is- brand loyalty to shampoo, and perhaps cosmetics/toiletries in general.

LordSutch

The older & wiser I get the less I am attached to brand names.

Grandeeod

murpho999 wrote: »

Not true. Dairygold is a spread full of oils not a butter. Kerrygold is sold as Kerrygold abroad.

Yes its true.

Its called Kerrygold spreadable with all the added oil. Exactly like Dairygold. Available in Sainsburys and Waitrose.

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/all-butter---spreads/kerrygold-spreadable-400g

Shenshen

seamus wrote: »

Even moreso things like tea that we don't even grow here, and where the preparation makes all the difference, someone is talking out of their hat if they claim they can tell a difference between lyons and barrys.

Not between Lyons and Barrys (is there even any difference?) but I do find the "Irish" teas generally to be much more bitter and to have much less flavour than the "English" brands.

Shenshen

Parachutes wrote: »

On an aside, you have to love Boards.ie

Anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion on mayonnaise is a "deluded wannabe hipster"

I don't mind his assumptions on mayonnaise (I rarely touch it), but to assume there's no difference between supermarket plastic-wrapped bread and a fresh loaf from the bakery is kind of funny.

seamus

Samaris wrote: »

It's rather funny reading this thread because it reminds me of a study he(or something I was reading) was quoting about brand loyalty. Some things people are chilled about buying whatever and go for the own brand stuff. But mayonnaise, ketchup and toothpaste were specifically mentioned as being items that people do show strong preferences towards and often they actually won't settle for an alternative. Why those three? No idea.

I'm not sure about toothpaste, but I can certainly understand mayonnaise and ketchup. I've never found two brands of ketchup that taste the same. I would generally go with Heinz. I find the chef stuff to be a little sweeter than Heinz, and most other stuff to be saltier or more vinegary; especially the stuff you get in a chipper or a pub.

I've no real affinity for any particular mayonnaise, didn't eat it for most of my life. But most definitely some are sweeter than others, or more watery or saltier.

So I'd say the nuances between recipies are quite well detectable for items like that, because there are many different ways of doing it.

But for things like cheese and onion crisps or cornflakes where the formula is pretty standard, I would say 99% of people wouldn't have a rashers if you removed the packaging.

Even moreso things like tea that we don't even grow here, and where the preparation makes all the difference, someone is talking out of their hat if they claim they can tell a difference between lyons and barrys.

Olishi4

Beans and ketchup own brand, I just don't like the taste so I usually get Heinz beans and Chef ketchup. I also like Brennans bread, it just seems more fresh. I don't know if it's in my head but I just find the own brand bread goes stale very quick.

Tesco Wheatabix are exactly the same. I also sometimes buy "Special Flakes" which are basically Special K.

I don't care as long as I like the product.

[Deleted User]

FTA69 wrote: »

Buy your own you cheap slag it's only a pound.

are you in England??? or doing this thread from circa 2000?? a pound??

Speedwell

murpho999 wrote: »

Bread is not just bread. I never any bread that is comes in a packet and avoid white bread.

Some breads are definitely nicer than others.

Also, why are people going on about Mayonaise as if it's some gourmet food substance.

Eh, I grew up on Hellmanns. I prefer Blenders, to be honest; it has a less "chemical" flavor to me. They make Centra's "own label" brand, incidentally.

White bread has its place. What else would you use to make a toasted cheese?

What else is remarkably good? Centra's own-label plain salted tortilla "chips". Easily as good as if not better than 90 percent of the ones I used to buy in Texas.

murpho999

Grandeeod wrote: »

Dairygold is sold outside of Ireland as Kerrygold, Exact same butter. Available in Asda and lots more UK shops.

Not true. Dairygold is a spread full of oils not a butter. Kerrygold is sold as Kerrygold abroad.

murpho999

FA Hayek wrote: »

Sometimes you can get away with a non branded product e.g. Milk or ham or personal health products. However, more often then not people buy branded products because they are assured that they are getting the same product they are used to and not some swill that they will have to throw out.

Take Mayonnaise for example. I have tried many types but the best tasting for me is Hellmnans. The rest are just no good, utter muck or a pale imitation. If I want to make a good sandwich, I get a dollop of Hellmanns mayonnaise and some cheese and onions Taytos with some bread. Bread is generally bread, it doesn't matter but try telling me you will get the same test if you swap Hellmanns mayonnaise for some yellow pack ****e and Taytos for some random variety. Sorry, but its going to taste different, very different and anyone who tells it otherwise is deluded wannabe hipster.

You can of course buy non branded stuff and get lucky but in general it will not be the same, besides what the 'alternative living' folks will tell you. For fresh dairy products work away but for jarred products or dry products like chocolate or biscuits its pot luck.

Bread is not just bread. I never any bread that is comes in a packet and avoid white bread.

Some breads are definitely nicer than others.

Also, why are people going on about Mayonaise as if it's some gourmet food substance.

Grandeeod

setanta1984 wrote: »

Dairygold is the only spread I truly like. I think it's because it uses cream, which other spreads don't seem to.

Since moving to the UK sandwich making has been a disaster.

If anyone knows anywhere to buy Dairygold in the UK I will create a shrine to you...
Does anyone even have any suggestions as to a brand they think is even close to it?

Dairygold is sold outside of Ireland as Kerrygold, Exact same butter. Available in Asda and lots more UK shops.

Parachutes

FA Hayek wrote: »

Bread is generally bread, it doesn't matter but try telling me you will get the same test if you swap Hellmanns mayonnaise for some yellow pack ****e and Taytos for some random variety. Sorry, but its going to taste different, very different and anyone who tells it otherwise is deluded wannabe hipster

On an aside, you have to love Boards.ie

Anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion on mayonnaise is a "deluded wannabe hipster"

OU812

There's certain things the brand names are (to me anyway), better at. Cereals (Kellogg's), sauces (Heinz ketchup, Frenche's Mustard), soft drinks (7 up, Pepsi), Tea (Lyons Gold label only).

Other things are no different or sometimes better in some cases. Cleaning products in Aldi for example perform better than brand names, I guess that's German efficiency.

Speedwell

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Its It's mostly all the same stuff, just with different packaging.

Unbeliever ?

read this

No. The same factory often makes different products for different brands. The same brand and packaging can even be made by the same factory at different quality levels for different shops. There was a huge uproar over this when it was discovered that Wal-Mart purposely bought cheaply made products from manufacturers that were made with plenty of "cut corners" and quality compromises, packaged and named identically except for a small "made for Wal-Mart" notation in an inconspicuous location. I didn't know this myself until I ordered something from an Amazon reseller that was supposed to be a first-quality brand name item, only to receive something that was clearly a cheap knockoff... sure enough, "made for Wal-Mart".

whiskeyman

I swear on my 9 children's lives that Lidl condoms are every bit as good as branded ones

Alf Stewart.

Its It's mostly all the same stuff, just with different packaging.

Unbeliever ?

read this

Samaris

I thiiiink Bill Bryson's Made in America touches on a lot of this. Great read either way, just not 100% sure that that's my source for the following;

It's rather funny reading this thread because it reminds me of a study he(or something I was reading) was quoting about brand loyalty. Some things people are chilled about buying whatever and go for the own brand stuff. But mayonnaise, ketchup and toothpaste were specifically mentioned as being items that people do show strong preferences towards and often they actually won't settle for an alternative. Why those three? No idea.

In Ireland, crisps and tea seem to be the other big ones. One is either Walkers or Tayto; Barry's or Lyons!

Can't stand Tayto myself. It's a weird thing, but even just typing the name, I get a strong whiff of cheese and onion taytos on a hot bus. Funny how memory works. Despise cheese and onion crisps, hate the smell, and it's put me off the entire brand! Also, I find that taytos are thinner and more crumbly than Walkers (or Hunky Dorys, nom) and there are few things crisp-related more annoying than opening a packed of crisps to find the contents in shards and powder!

Speedwell

Oh, that's a good point... cross-border brand loyalties. I have three, only three, from America, but they irritate me like a stone in my shoe. Huy Fong Sriracha sauce (the one and only; that Flying Goose swill is not the same), Playtex tampons (I am in no way ashamed to admit), and Crystal Light powdered drink mix in the single-serving stick pack.

livedadream

setanta1984 wrote: »

Dairygold is the only spread I truly like. I think it's because it uses cream, which other spreads don't seem to.

Since moving to the UK sandwich making has been a disaster.

If anyone knows anywhere to buy Dairygold in the UK I will create a shrine to you...
Does anyone even have any suggestions as to a brand they think is even close to it?

a corner supermarket in tooting bec does an irish section with dairygold, taytos etc i cant remember the name.. though ill look it up and PM you.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I wouldn't scrimp on my skincare. A good cleanser and toner, exfoliator and moisturiser are very important and I wouldn't put anything from a pharmacy on my face.

Shower gel, toothpaste, Lenor, washing powder is pretty much all I'm very loyal to.

FA Hayek

Means Of Escape wrote: »

Chef tops Heinz

Yes, especially true for brown sauce. Not its not BBQ its brown sauce. Good luck finding a yellow pack substitute.

Speedwell

Widdershins wrote: »

My grandmother who was a nurse used to get quite annoyed about being prescribed generics. There was an ad campaign kind of encouraging people to trust generics. Clonmel Health .

No guarantees that the brand name is the purest or "best" formulation, either. My brother, who suffers from rheumatoid arthritis, thought he was allergic to a medication his doctor wanted him to take. The medication (I don't know which one it was) was important enough to his doctor that the next time my brother was an outpatient in the hospital for a procedure, the doctor called the chemist my brother usually went to and got information about the manufacturer who supplied that chain. The hospital pharmacy had a formulation by a different manufacturer. The doctor, having suspected that the active ingredient was not the issue, carefully supervised my brother's status as he administered the new formulation. No adverse reaction developed, and my brother was able to take the crucial medication after all (he reported that the doctor said, "you are not to obtain this medication from anywhere but my office, and to be safe, from me personally"). Scary stuff.

FA Hayek

Sometimes you can get away with a non branded product e.g. Milk or ham or personal health products. However, more often then not people buy branded products because they are assured that they are getting the same product they are used to and not some swill that they will have to throw out.

Take Mayonnaise for example. I have tried many types but the best tasting for me is Hellmnans. The rest are just no good, utter muck or a pale imitation. If I want to make a good sandwich, I get a dollop of Hellmanns mayonnaise and some cheese and onions Taytos with some bread. Bread is generally bread, it doesn't matter but try telling me you will get the same test if you swap Hellmanns mayonnaise for some yellow pack ****e and Taytos for some random variety. Sorry, but its going to taste different, very different and anyone who tells it otherwise is deluded wannabe hipster.

You can of course buy non branded stuff and get lucky but in general it will not be the same, besides what the 'alternative living' folks will tell you. For fresh dairy products work away but for jarred products or dry products like chocolate or biscuits its pot luck.

Means Of Escape

podgemonster wrote: »

The mother once replaced Heinz Ketchup with some Aldi/Lidl brand ketchup.

We didn't speak for a fortnight.

Chef tops Heinz

Widdershins

Speedwell wrote: »

My dad used to swear on a stack of Bibles that generic prescription medication was the same exact stuff as the name brand. Not even after much research could I tell him any different. Generic meds only have to have the same dosage of active ingredient. Sometimes the actual compound is different, but considered equivalent (for example, ascorbic acid and sodium ascorbate both considered legitimate forms of Vitamin C). Very often, the excipients (bulking, diluting, packaging, enhancing, flavouring, time-release, or other added ingredients) differ. Quality control may vary. Sometimes even the source of the active ingredient matters, such as whether it is naturally sourced or synthesised in a laboratory process.

My grandmother who was a nurse used to get quite annoyed about being prescribed generics. There was an ad campaign kind of encouraging people to trust generics. Clonmel Health .

Speedwell

seamus wrote: »

They think it works better. It must do, because it says it does.

Nurofen got nailed in Australia for this. They marketed a whole bunch of different painkillers, with different coloured boxes for each type of pain - period pain, headaches, backaches, etc etc. And they charged a huge premium on it.

They actually still do this in the UK. But it's the exact same painkiller in the box. There is no difference between the "regular" Nurofen and the period pain one except the price and the pink box (seriously).

Yet people were all too eager to buy it and many commenters shocked because they used to swear blind that only the "period pain" nurofen worked for them, the ordinary one didn't.

My dad used to swear on a stack of Bibles that generic prescription medication was the same exact stuff as the name brand. Not even after much research could I tell him any different. Generic meds only have to have the same dosage of active ingredient. Sometimes the actual compound is different, but considered equivalent (for example, ascorbic acid and sodium ascorbate both considered legitimate forms of Vitamin C). Very often, the excipients (bulking, diluting, packaging, enhancing, flavouring, time-release, or other added ingredients) differ. Quality control may vary. Sometimes even the source of the active ingredient matters, such as whether it is naturally sourced or synthesised in a laboratory process.

NikoTopps

Lyons and Tayto/Hunky Dorys. I can't stand the Aldi equivalents of either so I don't mind paying full price for the brand name stuff.

[Deleted User]

andekwarhola wrote: »

True. They're not much use in the **** bank.

When there's a will, there's a way