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GLAS thread

Muckit

There may be some interest in setting this up to help with any GLAS related items.

My questions (although not exclusively glas related) are as follows:

I have LIPP and l am trying to work out in real terms what chemical N l am allowed to put out.

So far l've converted the 40kg/ha limit to kg/acre which works put @ 16.19kg/acre.

Now take say a 50kg bag of CAN. That's 27%N so am l right in saying this works out @ 13.5kg? So really a bag of CAN is all that is allowed/annum?

Or if spreading typical compound like 18-6-12 that 1.5bags/acre can be comfortably spread?

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Base price

Now that we have had two dry days in a row and it looks like its going to rain later today I was going to top dress the wbc. It got a bag/acre of 10-10-20 when sown on the 5th of June. The first two leaves of the linseed is turning yellow in some areas of one plot. Could be to do with all the rain that we have had.
What would you recommend - CAN, 18-6-12 or 10-10-20.

limo_100

Base price wrote: »

Now that we have had two dry days in a row and it looks like its going to rain later today I was going to top dress the wbc. It got a bag/acre of 10-10-20 when sown on the 5th of June. The first two leaves of the linseed is turning yellow in some areas of one plot. Could be to do with all the rain that we have had.
What would you recommend - CAN, 18-6-12 or 10-10-20.

ours didn't do well in general especially the oats how did yours do?

Base price

limo_100 wrote: »

ours didn't do well in general especially the oats how did yours do?

One of the two plots is flying except for one area near a drain which would be damp and due to all the rain is now wet/squelchy. The other plot got hammered by the crows and about half of it has less oats growing than the other. The linseed is doing well in all areas but be spread about twice as much as required.

limo_100

Base price wrote: »

One of the two plots is flying except for one area near a drain which would be damp and due to all the rain is now wet/squelchy. The other plot got hammered by the crows and about half of it has less oats growing than the other. The linseed is doing well in all areas but be spread about twice as much as required.

The plot that was attacked by the crows are you worried in case of an inspection?

Base price

Some pictures I took yesterday.

Base price

limo_100 wrote: »

The plot that was attacked by the crows are you worried in case of an inspection?

No because there is linseed growing there. Crows didn't seem to go after the linseed seeds as much. Reading through the GLAS stuff there doesn't seem to be a problem with the precentage of oats v linseed growing in a plot.

Water John

Base I'd say go with the 10:10:20. you don't need that high N.
Muckit, You have to tell the crows that they are eating there own winter feed and would they please refrain.

Cavanjack

When is the next glas payment due? Will it be with the single farm payment? Can't find info anywhere on when it's due.

djmc

Cavanjack wrote: »

When is the next glas payment due? Will it be with the single farm payment? Can't find info anywhere on when it's due.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/balancing-glas-1-payments-to-issue-in-may-department/

May apparently if you believe what you read. :rolleyes:

ganmo

djmc wrote: »

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/balancing-glas-1-payments-to-issue-in-may-department/

May apparently if you believe what you read. :rolleyes:

Believe half of what you read and nothing that you hear

Base price

Water John wrote: »

Base I'd say go with the 10:10:20. you don't need that high N.
Muckit, You have to tell the crows that they are eating there own winter feed and would they please refrain.

Never got the chance to spread any fert yesterday because it started to rain heavy about hour later. Away today so hopefully it will still stay dry tomorrow morning.

Cavanjack

djmc wrote: »

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/balancing-glas-1-payments-to-issue-in-may-department/

May apparently if you believe what you read. :rolleyes:

Hasn't reached my account yet. Wonder there's no shouting about it yet.

djmc

Cavanjack wrote: »

Hasn't reached my account yet. Wonder there's no shouting about it yet.

I would think it's a small payment due only part of a part payment for three months of last year so I would guess around 3 hundred euros if we are lucky
Hardly worth shouting about.
We can save our breath until December when the main payment should be made for the 2016 year.

Base price

Water John wrote: »

Base I'd say go with the 10:10:20. you don't need that high N.
Muckit, You have to tell the crows that they are eating there own winter feed and would they please refrain.

Eventually got a bag and a half/acre of 18-6-12 spread this afternoon. Local coop had nothing else other than UREA.

limo_100

Base price wrote: »

Eventually got a bag and a half/acre of 18-6-12 spread this afternoon. Local coop had nothing else other than UREA.

how much is 18-6-12 now in your area 320 in my local co-op

Base price

limo_100 wrote: »

how much is 18-6-12 now in your area 320 in my local co-op

Only bought 8 bags for the wbc. Haven't used chemical fert on this farm in over 12 years.

Username John

Base price wrote: »

Only bought 8 bags for the wbc. Haven't used chemical fert on this farm in over 12 years.

Interesting...

I assume you use slurry or dung to keep indices in order?
What about silage ground? Or do you not cut any silage?

I am kinda the opposite in that I'm not able to spread any ding or slurry on my ground, so it's all chemical fert.

But very interested to hear how others do without it... (If I can be so nosey)

Base price

Username John wrote: »

Interesting...

I assume you use slurry or dung to keep indices in order?
What about silage ground? Or do you not cut any silage?

I am kinda the opposite in that I'm not able to spread any ding or slurry on my ground, so it's all chemical fert.

But very interested to hear how others do without it... (If I can be so nosey)

We don't make silage anymore except for a few round bales if a field gets too strong and the weather doesn't allow for hay.

Base price

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/an-taisce-slam-well-funded-irish-agricultural-lobby-over-latest-european-climate-targets/

yosemitesam1

Base price wrote: »

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/an-taisce-slam-well-funded-irish-agricultural-lobby-over-latest-european-climate-targets/

That is a bit of a joke, they dont even have any proof that irish grassland is sequestering carbon which could easily leave our co2/unit of output a lot higher than is made out in these reports.

ganmo

Base price wrote: »

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/an-taisce-slam-well-funded-irish-agricultural-lobby-over-latest-european-climate-targets/

When was the last time an taisc had anything good to say?

theaceofspies

djmc wrote: »

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/balancing-glas-1-payments-to-issue-in-may-department/

May apparently if you believe what you read. :rolleyes:

Maybe May, maybe June, maybe July, maybe August. Maybe Never

New Minister & new President of the IFA and yet nothing has changed.

Base price

Was talking to a beef/tillage farmer that we know from Co. Kildare. He sowed WBC, kale and oats in May and it is his first time in an environmental scheme. He was telling me that he walked through the plot the other day and there were hundreds of butterflies flying about. He also said that there was lots of different small birds in the crop. I suggested that he get himself a pocket bird book so that he can identify them.

Water John

Base, this article on apps might be handy also.

http://blog.nature.org/science/2013/05/27/boucher-bird-blog-apps-smart-birder/

dodo mommy

Quick question for ye, has everyone received payment for the last three months of last year for tranch one or are some of ye like me still waiting.

coolshannagh28

dodo mommy wrote: »

Quick question for ye, has everyone received payment for the last three months of last year for tranch one or are some of ye like me still waiting.

Have received no payment whatsoever

Water John

TMK nobody has been paid anything, open to correction. Ah but give Michael a bit of time. He is still reading his brief.

BENDYBINN

Got paid at christmas

Muckit

dodo mommy wrote: »

Quick question for ye, has everyone received payment for the last three months of last year for tranch one or are some of ye like me still waiting.

Like your good self - still waiting here.

djmc

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Got paid at christmas

part payment paid around christmas the next part of that part payment should be on the next few days id think
Its on financial self services side of ag payments now as being due