unseenfootage wrote: » Christians don't do that either. I don't think he is one.
Alive1 wrote: » The same applies for Judaism and indeed other religions both in the UK and throughout Europe. But you concentrate only on Islam, why???
cfuserkildare wrote: » Do we want a situation where we have vigilante muslims stoning cars that might enter a predominantly muslim neighbourhood, or going around telling women to cover up, or young men to stop drinking. Their attitudes are light years behind us. The only shining beacon in the middle east, despite its treatment of Palestinians, is Israel, where agriculture thrives, people can be themselves, and the cities clean and hygienic.
Sofiztikated wrote: » Secondly, if you think that will stop them, look at it like this. If we got word that ISIS had captured/killed soldiers on the ground, and had done something to the bodies to stop them reaching their own respective heavens, what do you think our reaction would be? Would it be one of "Oh, well maybe we shouldn't have soldiers on the ground?" or would it be one of "Well, fúck you, now we're really going to fúck you up."
Sofiztikated wrote: » ... Secondly, if you think that will stop them, look at it like this. If we got word that ISIS had captured/killed soldiers on the ground, and had done something to the bodies to stop them reaching their own respective heavens, what do you think our reaction would be? Would it be one of "Oh, well maybe we shouldn't have soldiers on the ground?" or would it be one of "Well, fúck you, now we're really going to fúck you up."
Ted Cruz wrote: » The French are talking about about banning foreign funded mosques. I hope they go through with it.
Widdershins wrote: » Alive1 wrote: » What character of the country? The character that allowed women to die by denying them life saving medical tratment on the basis that "this is a Catholic country"? Thats a character that needs changing! That bit does for certain but how is mass immigration going to do that ? If the predominant religion is muslim how will that positively influence the woman's rights situation ?
Alive1 wrote: » What character of the country? The character that allowed women to die by denying them life saving medical tratment on the basis that "this is a Catholic country"? Thats a character that needs changing!
Bubbaclaus wrote: » Not sure I'm seeing the logic/end goal of that suggestion.
Widdershins wrote: » That would be to prevent radicalisation .
end of the road wrote: » if that is the end goal, it has failed before it can even get going.
Widdershins wrote: » Bubbaclaus wrote: » Not sure I'm seeing the logic/end goal of that suggestion. That would be to prevent radicalisation .
A Little Pony wrote: » They could just close all the mosques down and if Muslims whine about it, just give them directions to Muslim countries which have Sharia Law with a one way flight booked. It is France, not Iran or Saudi Arabia.
Eastern European countries sold 1 billion+ worth of weapons to countries that sent them to Syria & then refused refugees from same countryhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/27/weapons-flowing-eastern-europe-middle-east-revealed-arms-trade-syria?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
jackofalltrades wrote: » Anyone else notice that this thread has lost a whole bunch of posts? I've lost a least one of mine.
KingBrian2 wrote: » We in Europe are going about this all wrong. Our entire relationship with the Arabs is built around commercial considerations and not human rights. We tolerate their cruel inhumane treatments of minorities and then complain when the consequences play out in Europe until this relationship is reshaped we will continue to have yes Algerian French and Moroccan Dutch committing violence on the streets of Paris & Amsterdam. You'd be laughed out of the audience if you were to suggest that Saudi Arabia build a Catholic Church in Mecca or Medina yet in Europe we have Mosques, churches, temples, Synagogues & fortune tellers to cater to every religion.
Grayson wrote: » The reason is because we're better than them. Not better than muslims. Muslims are people, some are good and some are bad, just like us. However our society is better than Saudi. We cherish our freedoms and that means everyone, no matter what their race or creed. We don't take our cues from Saudi, if we did we'd be no better than them. Saudi is a monarchy, it's comparable to dictatorships of which there are many. The difference is that Saudi uses a messed up interpretation of a religion to enforce it's power. It's the same as any totalitarian state which uses an ideology. Wahhabism is to islam as Stalinism is to socialism.
A Little Pony wrote: » The problem isn't that Saudi has a monarchy. The UK has a monarchy and the Queen is head of state. The difference is Saudi is an Islamic controlled totalitarian sh*t hole.
