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4,500 a week for teenager's flat 'scandalous', says judge.

MilesMorales1

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/state-paying-4500-a-week-for-teenagers-flat-scandalous-says-judge-747014.html

4500 a week? Christ. I'm sure that article isn't the whole story but that's just mental to me. How much do these 'centres' cost to keep them in?

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ShadyAcres

The landlord of the house is the only one laughing here.

suicide_circus

Who ever in the social services signed off on that amount should appear before the PAC and explain this one.

GLaDOS

A week?? The fúck!

syklops

Saw that earlier. Feels weird to be agreeing with a judge for a change.

Gatling

Welcome to Ireland folks

foggy_lad

ShadyAcres wrote: »

The landlord of the house is the only one laughing here.

suicide_circus wrote: »

Who ever in the social services signed off on that amount should appear before the PAC and explain this one.

That situation and every other where money is paid out for similar accommodation should be audited and all details of who owns the properties made public along with any connections to public representatives or those in the civil service/state employees.

Edit - Just re-read it and it seems this is an apartment in some type of sheltered developement which is locked between 9pm and 7am. it is operated by a private company(anyone know who they are?) who are charging more than airBnB for the place!

Flippyfloppy

F^cking hell somethings not right there!

Fleawuss

A one bedroom flat in Mayfair in London costs 2700£ per calendar month. €3200. There may be a misprint in the article? There may be supervisory staff also present?

whisky_galore

Like L'oreal, it's because they're worth it.

foggy_lad

Fleawuss wrote: »

A one bedroom flat in Mayfair in London costs 2700£ per calendar month. €3200. There may be a misprint in the article? There may be supervisory staff also present?

Apparently no staff present and the youth is free to come and go as he pleases when the doors are unlocked for the day

syklops

Fleawuss wrote: »

A one bedroom flat in Mayfair in London costs 2700£ per calendar month. €3200. There may be a misprint in the article? There may be supervisory staff also present?

The article says no additional services are being provided.

Permabear

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Letree

Any public servant who is that careless with the states money should be demoted to a level where they can't sign off on anything.

CdeC

If they get him a cheaper flat he might start getting abusive again.

"We want to put you in a 3,000 a week flat"

"the f*ck you will" *smash #!#?!!

Summer wind

Sounds like he needs a good kick in the hole.

SEPT 23 1989

If we had a free press in this country they would dig deep into these type of financial arrangements between the state and private companies

lertsnim

Letree wrote: »

Any public servant who is that careless with the states money should be demoted to a level where they can't sign off on anything.

They should be sacked when it is on a scale like this monthly rent. I would love to know if the person who signed off has any connection to the person that owns the apartment.

Skylinehead

Letree wrote: »

Any public servant who is that careless with the states money should be demoted to a level where they can't sign off on anything.

What's wrong with sacking them?

MilesMorales1

How is the centre home thing he was at so expensive then? That seems very high as well, quarter of a million a year per person.

the_syco

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/state-paying-4500-a-week-for-teenagers-flat-scandalous-says-judge-747014.html

4500 a week? Christ. I'm sure that article isn't the whole story but that's just mental to me. How much do these 'centres' cost to keep them in?

I'd be charging that amount as well if the tenant was going to;

“He was assaulting staff, smashing up the place, up on the roof of the unit, into cars

Alf Stewart.

Never mind the price, its the location I'm struggling with.

4,500€ a week rent, "in a town in Louth"

What bloody town in Louth demands 18k a month apartment rentals?

FalconGirl

Media need to dig deeper on this one. I'd love to know who the landlord is or connected to. Could be the tip of the iceberg and there may be more cosy arrangements like this out there.

Absolutely farcical waste of state funds and someone needs to have the book thrown at them.

waraf

The 4500 per week includes the price of 3 fat lads to sit on him 24/7 to stop him wrecking the gaff

dotsman

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Never mind the price, its the location I'm struggling with.

4,500€ a week rent, "in a town in Louth"

What bloody town in Louth demands 18k a month apartment rentals?

You mean 20K a month?

ohnonotgmail

foggy_lad wrote: »

Apparently no staff present and the youth is free to come and go as he pleases when the doors are unlocked for the day

what sort of flat has doors that need to be unlocked at the start of the day? It doesnt sound like a regular flat

Alf Stewart.

dotsman wrote: »

You mean 20K a month?

What s two grand when its the public purse, but I was going on the principle of a four week month.

4 x 4.5 = 18.

MilesMorales1

She said: “He was assaulting staff, smashing up the place, up on the roof of the unit, into cars. The fact that the boy is able to maintain his new residential placement without assaulting or abusive behaviour or without coming to attention of the Gardaí, to me — that is a huge improvement.”

I just don't understand this. Why are we rewarding bad behaviour? Why aren't the Gardai involved?

suicide_circus

FalconGirl wrote: »

Media need to dig deeper on this one. I'd love to know who the landlord is or connected to. Could be the tip of the iceberg and there may be more cosy arrangements like this out there.

Absolutely farcical waste of state funds and someone needs to have the book thrown at them.

Probably a subsidiary or Topaz or Independent News & Media

[Deleted User]

I assume the teenager requires round-the-clock supervision. Lets say there are 3 workers in a 24-hour period on an average of €30,000 each. That's about €100,000 when considering salaries & employer PRSI contributions.

The article says that a private psychologist is costing €7,000 p.a. Lets say the boy is getting counselling 5 days per week every week @€;50 per session, that's €13,000. That's a total of €20,000 on counselling and psychological care.

That still "only" comes to €120,000, which leaves €130,000 for accomodation, food and uh, petty spending.

Something is seriously wrong with that figure, and it shouldn't take a judge to point it out.

lertsnim

suicide_circus wrote: »

Probably a subsidiary or Topaz or Independent News & Media

Topaz is under different ownership these days.