Cathy.C wrote: » Absolutely. He said similar in the ESPN interview also but they didn't air it and so many would not be aware that he did so. They wrote about it though in this ESPN article where they noted he was still, understandably, reluctant to speak about it, perhaps why they didn't include it in the aired portion. I also thought it was quite decent of him to concede that he didn't perhaps communicate too well to the UFC regarding the real reasons why him and his team had wanted a little more time back then. Personally I thought that was obvious from watching events tbh as no comment from them seemed to refer to him or his camp having things to deal with. It was pretty much all remarks saying he wasn't coming because he didn't want to come, end of story. But like I say, it's nice to see him take some of the blame for that lack of communication.
slicus ricus wrote: » I remember reading this at the time that this was the real reason, very much a rumour at that stage but obviously now confirmed by the man himself. Also in the same report, it was said that Conor didn't want to publicise this as the reason because he didn't want to attract any more negative reaction to the sport than it was already getting. From what I recall, regulation of MMA in Ireland by the Sports Council of Ireland followed soon after this period which has been high on the wishlist of everyone in Irish MMA for a long time - perhaps Conor didn't want to jeopardise the possibility of this.
slicus ricus wrote: I thought so as well. I presume you are talking about the part where he spoke about wanting to be with his team mates in the aftermath of the death of Joao Carvalho and how witnessing that event affected him at that time, particularly given that a team mate and close friend was involved. Certainly an admirable and very human response to such tragic events.
JinkyJackson wrote: » He should have just come out with that in the first place then. Just tell everyone he's not in the right frame of mind to go to Vegas for the presser. Instead he made a big song and dance about it.In my opinion, I think something more sinister went on, and he was never suppose to fight at 200 in the first place.
zpehtsfd wrote: » Does this really look like a man who had "things" on his mind barely 6 days after the tragic death of Joao Carvalho?http://www.independent.ie/sport/mma/watch-up-the-dubs-conor-mcgregor-and-the-cork-footballers-have-a-little-singoff-in-the-airport-34635235.html And then 2 days later the famous "retire" tweet happens. I'd sadly say the only thing on his mind was the mighty $$ but keep telling yourself otherwise and paint him in an admirable way. :rolleyes:
Gamebred wrote: » PMSL a 45 second video and you can analyze his train of thought at the time on fighting hahahahaha
JinkyJackson wrote: » He should have just come out with that in the first place then. Just tell everyone he's not in the right frame of mind to go to Vegas for the presser. Instead he made a big song and dance about it.
JinkyJackson wrote: » In my opinion, I think something more sinister went on, and he was never suppose to fight at 200 in the first place.
zpehtsfd wrote: Does this really look like a man who had "things" on his mind barely 6 days after the tragic death of Joao Carvalho?http://www.independent.ie/sport/mma/...-34635235.html
zpehtsfd wrote: And then 2 days later the famous "retire" tweet happens. I'd sadly say the only thing on his mind was the mighty $$ but keep telling yourself otherwise and paint him in an admirable way.
zpehtsfd wrote: » Actually my wife's friend was on the same flight back from Portugal and let's just say he wasn't exactly in mourning. Ah sure he was probably just putting on a brave face for everyone. :pac:
sonofenoch wrote: » Am I right in saying that's Edgar out of the McGregor equation......he's lost twice now to a man beaten in 13 secs.......he misses out on the big payday McGregor only has 1 fight left at 145
newballsplease wrote: » Is Mcgregor not going to find it extremely hard to get back down to 145 ?
.ak wrote: » I think if he does cut back to 145 I think that may be the last straw and he'll start competing at 155.
Cathy.C wrote: » ...so why even bother given that he has more options open to him
With denser muscles now that cut is bound to be tougher than it ever has been before
Mellor wrote: » Muscles can't change density. They can be bigger or smaller, but the physical density is pretty uniform. It's just one of those BS terms like "toning a muscle", they people waffle on about to try sell something. whether he can make 145 is purely a question of weight.
Conor is still growing naturally and physiologically, he’s still advancing and his muscles and becoming denser. ”
Why bother? Because he has dedicated his life to becoming a UFC champion. Something he realized after years of blood sweat and tears. I'm not a world champion, I I would imagine that something like that is not something that you just walk away from. Particular for someone like Conor.
whether he can make 145 is purely a question of weight. He's made the cut multiple times, the last few when he was biggest. He knows where he needs to cut from. And how to get to there.
“He does a big cut, and he doesn’t like it. I don’t think he’s going to do it that much longer. I think he’s going to move up. I think he wants to move up and I don’t blame him. I wouldn’t be able to do this cut too many times. It definitely takes it out of you, there’s no doubt. He has a lot of energy and he’ll tough through it and fight really well, even though he does this cut, but I just think, looking ahead, that this is not good for your health. I don’t think he should do it many more times and I’ve told him that. That’s my opinion.”
Cathy.C wrote: » Muscle tone, definition, mass, whatever
Why bother? Well 1) He holds the belt already....
Cathy.C wrote: » Clearly it's not something that is easy for him and so why even bother
Just merely saying what amounts to 'He does it, he manages it and so what's the issue?' misses the point. We know he has done it. We know he knows how to do it. The point is that it is very taxing on him and there is only so much of that the body can take.
Cathy.C wrote: » Muscle tone, definition, mass, whatever, it is clear to everyone that Conor is more muscular now than he ever has been before. Here's a comment from George Lockhart (who helped him make the weight cuts somewhat easier than they had been previously) where he says: lol. Love how I am being lectured on how hard Conor has worked to get where he is. Makes a change :P Why bother? Well 1) He holds the belt already and if RDA hadn't pulled out he would have won the 155 belt and achieved his goal of holding the same two belts at UFC which he had held at Cage Warriors. Had that happened I don't think he would ever have fought at 145 again, personally. With events going the way they did though, I don't see him getting the chance to fight for the 155 belt until he defends the 145 belt and so that is why I only see him making that cut one more time, as a means to an end (most likely against Aldo @ MSG - barring injury/suspension) " 2) Most importantly, making the cut for '45 clearly takes a huge toll on him which while once was very much worth it, now it isn't anywhere near as much giving he is now older and has other options. Even just from a visual perspective it's quite obvious that it's arduous given how he looks and I am not just talking about cut for the Siver fight: As even during his cut in December, which was heralded as his easist '45 cut, he looked extremely gaunt. Just merely saying what amounts to 'He does it, he manages it and so what's the issue?' misses the point. We know he has done it. We know he knows how to do it. The point is that it is very taxing on him and there is only so much of that the body can take. You don't need to rely on visuals for proof of how hard it is for him either as it's well documented that it is not a cut he finds easy as those closest to him have made that patently clear. JK said to Dana White: "I don’t want him making that weight again; it’s not good for him" and Gunnar said the following:
Paully D wrote: » Yep, Frankie blew the opportunity. It'll be McGregor v Aldo 2 at UFC 206 or 207 towards the end of the year. If Frankie had won, they'd probably have had it headlining New York.
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sonofenoch wrote: » If McGregor beats Diaz I could see him take on Alvarez in late Dec for the lightweight belt (a fight he'd have more than a good chance in) .....he'd then be the double weight belt holder he wants (and probably relinquish the 145 belt) soon after........that might seem unfair on Aldo perhaps but it's cards McGregor holds obviously if he loses again he'll defend the 145 and Diaz will probably get a shot at the 155
sonofenoch wrote: » If McGregor beats Diaz I could see him take on Alvarez in late Dec for the lightweight belt (a fight he'd have more than a good chance in) .....he'd then be the double weight belt holder he wants (and probably relinquish the 145 belt) soon after........that might seem unfair on Aldo perhaps but it's cards McGregor holds obviously if he loses again he'll defend the 145 and Diaz will probably get a shot at the
