11 police shot, 4 officers dead after coordinated sniper fire at Dallas protest rally

beach_walker wrote: »

, will Black Lives Matter accept any degree of blame for this? Nah, thought not.

Why would they

beach_walker wrote: »

So after encouraging the killing of cops, near venerating cop killers and stirring up racial hatred/animosity towards cops even in places where it doesn't exist, will Black Lives Matter accept any degree of blame for this? Nah, thought not.

They should be designated a terrorist organisation like the KKK.

Gatling wrote: »

Why would they

For the reasons I listed...

After that lunatic shot Gabrielle Giffords, Palin and many GOP/Tea party types were rightly called out for the incidenary language/imagery used which no doubt inflamed the situation/society. I see many similarities with this.

This is on the BLM website:

To assign the actions of one person to an entire movement is dangerous and irresponsible.

But the actions of lone police officers should be assigned to the entire police force. Hmmm.

I think they were right the first time. It is dangerous to assign blame for the actions of the few to the many. And yesterday we saw the results and will probably see more to come.

BorneTobyWilde

beach_walker wrote: »

So after encouraging the killing of cops, near venerating cop killers and stirring up racial hatred/animosity towards cops even in places where it doesn't exist, will Black Lives Matter accept any degree of blame for this? Nah, thought not.

It put shoe on other foot. Police now know what it's like to be targeted and killed for no reason. It might do some good long term.
History is laced with extreme acts of violence that at the time made no difference but in time did.

Hande hoche!

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It put shoe on other foot. Police now know what it's like to be targeted and killed for no reason. It might do some good long term.
History is laced with extreme acts of violence that at the time made no difference but in time did.

Alternatively they may get even more trigger happy...

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It put shoe on other foot. Police now know what it's like to be targeted and killed for no reason. It might do some good long term.
History is laced with extreme acts of violence that at the time made no difference but in time did.

Are you insane?

Police get shot for no reason all the time.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Police now know what it's like to be targeted and killed for no reason.

This isn't the first time there's been something like this against police. No, I don't accept it'll do some good in the long term.

super_furry

walshyn93 wrote: »

Where is the balance on that panel? Are we going to get the other side?

Balance? They're POLICE OFFICERS. They are the other side.

RustyNut

walshyn93 wrote: »

Are you insane?

Police get shot for no reason all the time.

Just like US police shoot people for no reason all the time.

beach_walker wrote: »

For the reasons I listed...

After that lunatic shot Gabrielle Giffords, Palin and many GOP/Tea party types were rightly called out for the incidenary language/imagery used which no doubt inflamed the situation/society. I see many similarities with this.

Nothing at all to do with the inherently racist Police officers and legal systems since there inception

RustyNut wrote: »

Just like US police shoot people for no reason all the time.

Rarely is someone actually murdered by the police. Virtually every recent scandal has eventually shown that the policeman was justified with the exception of the one with the wife in the car. It's more often that cops are murdered on the job than commit murder. Cops get shot at all the time.

For reference. I'm sure there will be plenty more examples in the related videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrMWoikwMgU

FISMA.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Police now know what it's like to be targeted and killed for no reason. It might do some good long term.

As if they didn't already know...

How quickly ye forget.

Gatling wrote: »

Nothing at all to do with the inherently racist Police officers and legal systems since there inception

Wait a minute, let's stick to BLM. The goal posts can be moved afterwards. Do you think they and their rhetoric about cop killers/killing, racial hatred and anti-police sentiment had anything to do with this? I mean the killer most certainly did think so.

3 more cops ambushed in Georgia, Tennessee and Missouri over the weekend.

A Ballwin, Missouri, police officer is clinging to life on Friday after being shot during a traffic stop. The officer stopped a speeding car at about 11 a.m., the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported. As the officer was walking back to his car, the suspect exited his vehicle and walked briskly towards the officer. He then fired three shots at the officer.

A Bristol, Tennessee, police officer was shot by a man who allegedly killed one other person and injured two others. Preliminary findings by the Tennessee Bureau of Investigations (TBI) indicate the suspect, 37,year-old Lakeem Keon Scott may have been targeting people and officers because he was “troubled by recent events involving African-Americans and law enforcement officers in other parts of the country.” Soctt was armed with a semi-automatic rifle and a pistol, a local CBS affiliate reported. This shooting took place on Thursday morning, before the Dallas shooting took place.

A Valdosta police officer was shot on Friday morning while responding to a call of damage to an apartment complex, NBC11 reported. The suspect reportedly called police reporting his vehicle had been broken into. When Officer Randall Hancock responded Hancock allegedly exited his vehicle with a handgun and fired on the Valdosta officer. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation said Officer Beck was shot in the abdomen, beneath his protective vest. He returned fire striking the suspected gunman.

Actually these happened before the Dallas shooting but didn't make the world news because it's only cops getting shot not innocent paedophiles.

RustyNut

walshyn93 wrote: »

Rarely is someone actually murdered by the police. Virtually every recent scandal has eventually shown that the policeman was justified with the exception of the one with the wife in the car. It's more often that cops are murdered on the job than commit murder. Cops get shot at all the time.

For reference. I'm sure there will be plenty more examples in the related videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrMWoikwMgU

Justified by an investigation carried out by the shooters colleagues.

beach_walker wrote: »

Wait a minute, let's stick to BLM. The goal posts can be moved afterwards. Do you think they and their rhetoric about cop killers/killing, racial hatred and anti-police sentiment had anything to do with this? I mean the killer most certainly did think so.

No there been vocal about current situations and where it's going to lead it has nothing to do with BLM are BLM responsible for individuals saying cop killings -No

Should BLM be forced to disband -No

Has all the issues raised by BLM over the last 12+ months been happening for several decades in america - Yes

Do things need to change in america - Yes

Will things change in america - No

RustyNut wrote: »

Justified by an investigation carried out by the shooters colleagues.

Whenever a black person is shot by police the FBI launches an investigation so you can take your paranoid conspiracies elsewhere.

Gatling wrote: »

No there been vocal about current situations and where it's going to lead it has nothing to do with BLM are BLM responsible for individuals saying cop killings -No

Should BLM be forced to disband -No

Has all the issues raised by BLM over the last 12+ months been happening for several decades in america - Yes

Do things need to change in america - Yes

Will things change in america - No

Name me 3 unjustified cop killings of black men in the last 3 years.

Gatling wrote: »

No

Fair enough. I guess BLM will continue on with their death to cops slogans, cheering on cop killers, stirring up racisim/anti-cop sentiment (aside how many blacks have been killed by cops in Canada, where they held the Gay Pride parade to ransom to demand no police floats?) wholst taking no responsibility for those who take the message to heart.

I guess we can blame Trump for it all eh?

RustyNut

walshyn93 wrote: »

Whenever a black person is shot by police the FBI launches an investigation so you can take your paranoid conspiracies elsewhere.

What justice did this cop face for an unjustified killing?

The fact that the phrase "All lives matter" is more offensive to BLM supporters than "**** the police" tells you all you need to know. And the fact that that will continue to be the case in light of these events will be the perfect exposition of these angsty fatherless sociopaths.

super_furry

beach_walker wrote: »

Wait a minute, let's stick to BLM. The goal posts can be moved afterwards. Do you think they and their rhetoric about cop killers/killing, racial hatred and anti-police sentiment had anything to do with this? I mean the killer most certainly did think so.

You can't separate the two. Black Lives Matter would not exist if the police weren't so casual in killing black people.

Junkyard Tom

It's a fairly gloomy situation. The police will understandably be very jumpy so risk shooting more people. The cops shooting people could elicit further reprisals which will make the cops even more nervous... and so on, and so on.

I hope to goodness it all calms down and nobody else gets hurt.

RustyNut wrote: »

What justice did this cop face for an unjustified killing?

I have no idea. I asked for an example within the last 3 years because I'm familiar with most of the famous shootings and know all the evidence. I'm expected to take these radio hosts words as gospel? Nah. More recent examples please.

One thing that will come of this is the next stage of the militarisation of police forces across America.
Where the public was saying that police forces don't need MRAPs mine resistant vehicles from the army used is Afghanistan and heavy calibre sniper rifles along with other kit issued to military in war zones .
Now this will be used as a reason to give the police military equipment for likely a non existent threat for the most part

super_furry wrote: »

You can't separate the two. Black Lives Matter would not exist if the police weren't so casual in killing black people.

You're finding it hard to answer a simple question, friend.

super_furry wrote: »

You can't separate the two. Black Lives Matter would not exist if the police weren't so casual in killing black people.

Oh I think you can.

1 - (What I asked) Do BLM have some responsibility for this? What do you think?

2 - Are the American police trigger happy? Yes, no doubt.

Unlike some posters here, I don't think the answer to 2 is to shoot the police or encourage people to do so. But that's just me.

Gatling wrote: »

One thing that will come of this is the next stage of the militarisation of police forces across America.
Where the public was saying that police forces don't need MRAPs mine resistant vehicles from the army used is Afghanistan and heavy calibre sniper rifles along with other kit issued to military in war zones .
Now this will be used as a reason to give the police military equipment for likely a non existent threat for the most part

While I agree that the militarisation of police is a bad thing and should be avoided at all costs... none existent? That's a very ignorant statement. Not just in light of recent events but it demonstrates a very myopic view of the state of crime and violence in the US. Clearly you don't look beyond the flashy headlines very much.