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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shots-fired-at-boxing-weighin-in-dublin-hotel-34427111.html

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Esel

Rakish Paddy wrote: »

The Real NLA?

Nah - splinter group from the RNLI.

STB.

Esel wrote: »

Nah - splinter group from the RNLI.

Between that and the sunday world article referring to the "New INLA" its akin to the rate at which dodgy chinese takeaways change their name.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

DamienDarts

I see Nicola Tallent from the Sunday world put up a tweet earlier saying that today's shooting was not feud related.
And she has since deleted it...

So no one still knows if it was related or what?

Allyall

I think it's a case of knowing which feud.

One paper reporting that it's related to an extortion racket gone wrong, which fits in with a few things.
It could also be the Kinahans paving a clear path for themselves and their 'business', removing any and every obstacle.

If they do go from strength to strength, a few years from now and this place is going to be owned entirely by them. The youngblood probably more vicious than ever.
Prison isn't a deterrent, a cleaned out bank account may be, but there are easy ways to hide money now anyway.

Gadgetman496

Two of his closest pals have fled the country after being investigated over the murder of Gareth Hutch – the eighth in the bloody Hutch/Kinahan feud.

While the shot man had no involvement in this killing, one line of inquiry is that he was targeted because of his links with the chief suspects.

The man, who is originally from Ballymun, is facing charges before the non-jury Special Criminal Court where he, Duffy and another man are charged with three counts of false imprisonment at The Towers, Garters Lane, Saggart, on June 9, 2015.

Rakish Paddy

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

The man, who is originally from Ballymun, is facing charges before the non-jury Special Criminal Court where he, Duffy and another man are charged with three counts of false imprisonment at The Towers, Garters Lane, Saggart, on June 9, 2015.

Well, assuming the information in that article is correct, if you also read the following article you have all the info you need to confirm the identity of the guy who was shot:
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/couple-and-their-son-go-into-hiding-after-they-were-allegedly-falsely-imprisoned-in-their-own-home-by-a-gang-34278265.html

Bicky bicky

https://twitter.com/mickthehack/status/748956912910266368

Nine Darren Kearns

https://twitter.com/mickthehack/status/749236209071824896

Gamebred

How is it legal for him to claim ''the kinahans murdered him'' is that not libel? no one charged and Im pretty sure thats defamation?

cowboyBuilder

Esel wrote: »

Nah - splinter group from the RNLI.

Is it not the RINLA ?

Allyall

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

Is it not the RINLA ?

I'm pretty sure he was joking.

It seems the Kinahans are doing the same thing that became the reason that they took Eamonn Dunne out.
Except they seem to think that they are untouchable.

Have the Gardai ramped up things, like they did Operation Oak? It doesn't seem like it.

pojfexcsc

Gerry Hutches nephew used to live around the corner so when it happened this morning I assumed it was something to do with him.

HarryStuby

pojfexcsc wrote: »

Gerry Hutches nephew used to live around the corner so when it happened this morning I assumed it was something to do with him.

He's locked up

pojfexcsc

HarryStuby wrote: »

He's locked up

I know yeah was thinking it might of been someone he knows staying at the old house.

tomofson

Is it looking like the latest might pull through?

Muahahaha

Gamebred wrote: »

How is it legal for him to claim ''the kinahans murdered him'' is that not libel? no one charged and Im pretty sure thats defamation?

Honest opinion is a defence to defamation. Anyway he's just named the Kinahan gang, not anyone specific.

Also to be defamed you must have a reputation that is damaged because you're of good standing. I couldn't see the Kinahan's going to court claiming that their family's reputation was damaged because a journo claimed they committed a murder.

tomofson

Muahahaha wrote: »

Honest opinion is a defence to defamation. Anyway he's just named the Kinahan gang, not anyone specific.

Also to be defamed you must have a reputation that is damaged because you're of good standing. I couldn't see the Kinahan's going to court claiming that their family's reputation was damaged because a journo claimed they committed a murder.

As far as I know the man in question is still alive so they haven't committed a murder, does anyone know if he will make it or not???

Allyall

tomofson wrote: »

As far as I know the man in question is still alive so they haven't committed a murder, does anyone know if he will make it or not???

Not him, his friend.

He's critical, is the latest update on the News 5 minutes ago.

PARlance

I'm fairly sure Douglas is dead. Those tweets are from July 1st and 2nd.

The flying mouse

Do we know anymore about who was allegedly responsible for the shooting ? If its an internal republican feud ? Or is it a hutch reprisal shooting ? Or could it be RIRA retaliation for Michael bars shooting ?

tomofson

The flying mouse wrote: »

Do we know anymore about who was allegedly responsible for the shooting ? If its an internal republican feud ? Or is it a hutch reprisal shooting ? Or could it be RIRA retaliation for Michael bars shooting ?

I'd say the Hutch clan have finally hit back, just a guess though. If he passes they will have finally scored another goal. Now just sit back and wait for the Kinahan side to hammer five or six more goals into the back of the net.

Allyall

PARlance wrote: »

I'm fairly sure Douglas is dead. Those tweets are from July 1st and 2nd.

The man that was shot this morning is in critical condition.

Allyall

tomofson wrote: »

I'd say the Hutch clan have finally hit back, just a guess though. If he passes they will have finally scored another goal. Now just sit back and wait for the Kinahan side to hammer five or six more goals into the back of the net.

But didn't Fat Freddie's lot make a few attempts at taking out Whacker?
And isn't he with Whacker, part of the extortion crew?

honey12345

Allyall wrote: »

The man that was shot this morning is in critical condition.

He may pull through and live the rest of his life as a cabbage.

honey12345

Allyall wrote: »

But didn't Fat Freddie's lot make a few attempts at taking out Whacker?
And isn't he with Whacker?

The Kinahan gang were prob behind the shooting.

tomofson

honey12345 wrote: »

He may pull through and live the rest of his life as a cabbage.

Well martin foley is far from a cabbage (okay I know thats debatable) and hes been shot how many times?

honey12345

tomofson wrote: »

Well martin foley is far from a cabbage (okay I know thats debatable) and hes been shot how many times?

He was shot in the head, neck and chest. The chances of him pulling through are very slim.

tomofson

honey12345 wrote: »

He was shot in the head, neck and chest. The chances of him pulling through are very slim.

Its still early days, the media often get it wrong how many times people have been shot and were they have been shot this early on... Sure one source is saying he was shot twice another source saying he was shot five times.

The flying mouse

If it was the Kinahans they took the weapon with them and not like previous shootings, I think it might have nothing to do with this feud.

Dyr

cameramonkey wrote: »

Is that a yes or no?

Ah leave the chap alone, this is one of his pet hobby horses. Him and Jim Cusack

Allyall

The flying mouse wrote: »

If it was the Kinahans they took the weapon with them and not like previous shootings, I think it might have nothing to do with this feud.

A Traveller gang also wanted the Extortion crew out of the picture according to the Sunday World.