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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

Timmaay

24/6/16

Recently we saw three posters close their accounts over disagreements in the dairy threads. While there is a lot of frustration and discontent with current milk prices and the processing industry, the recent tendency for dairy threads to become tit-for-tat arguments isn’t tolerable for those not involved.

All farming sectors go through difficult periods and during such times there may need to be changes in how threads are moderated.

Dairy threads are going to be more closely monitored and subject to stricter moderation for a while.

To that end we won’t tolerate baiting of posters, constantly reviving old arguments, posters with agendas or crusading for a cause.

Whether it’s discussion of the business or politics of the dairy or other sectors, we expect civility and tolerance toward each other and other opinions as diversity of opinion is needed as a source of different ways of looking at a situation.

"The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress." - Joseph Joubert

Also please be aware that what you may post as light-hearted banter can be read totally differently by someone adversely affected by the subject matter and evoke a reaction you hadn’t intended.

The ‘Off-Season’ forum, and its anonymous posting, is available for anyone to chat about their situation.

The Mod Team.

10 away from the 10000 posts! Frazz I think it's fair to say this thread has been a success!

Indeed it was! First thread can be found here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056872221

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pedigree 6

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

It seems to last an hour before tripping out so I can get milked, just.

I'll try the service man again tomorrow morning.

I hate messing with electricity and wiring, that magic stuff should only be looked at by magicians service men:o

I know what you're saying but everyone should be able to change a capacitor.
It's really the same as changing a battery in a remote control.
The electrician could come in and tell a farmer "the flux capacitor that goes to the helium core in the motor is boll**ed. Ye're going to need a new motor " and the farmer would believe him. Electrican goes off puts a new capacitor in it for E8 and sells it as a reconditioned motor.

Here's a new one I have as a spare for the milk pump motor.

mahoney_j

Breeding season for heifers finished up today,started 01/05 .everything bred to Ai in first 12 days ,teaser bull in then for 3 weeks followed by my Aubrac bull ..will scan in a month but things look really good .hereford is with cows and only 3 bulled in last 10 days .ill leave him
In till 12 July and then that's it
Bit of a drop in milk over last week ,holding now at 28.6/29 ltrs 4.16 fat and 3.58 p scc 45 on 4.1 kg average fty of 14% p nut .2.24 kg m/s daily herd maturing nicely and ebi and hol fr genetics combined with quality grass really paying dividends .heading off for a few days with Mrs Mahoney and daughter tomorrow grand to get a few days away

whelan2

mahoney_j wrote: »

Breeding season for heifers finished up today,started 01/05 .everything bred to Ai in first 12 days ,teaser bull in then for 3 weeks followed by my Aubrac bull ..will scan in a month but things look really good .hereford is with cows and only 3 bulled in last 10 days .ill leave him
In till 12 July and then that's it
Bit of a drop in milk over last week ,holding now at 28.6/29 ltrs 4.16 fat and 3.58 p scc 45 on 4.1 kg average fty of 14% p nut .2.24 kg m/s daily herd maturing nicely and ebi and hol fr genetics combined with quality grass really paying dividends .heading off for a few days with Mrs Mahoney and daughter tomorrow grand to get a few days away

Enjoy the break, we heading thursday can't wait

Water John

J is your bull heading North to march on the 12th or what?
Enjoy your break.
Surely you won't stop posting, just because your on holidays.

mahoney_j

whelan2 wrote: »

Enjoy the break, we heading thursday can't wait

Ta whelan will do,since calving started I've done every milking bar 5 ..regular Milker now in and wife gone on 4 day week for summer so lots of days away and short breaks planned .the crap milk price can go ****e !'nn

mahoney_j

Water John wrote: »

J is your bull heading North to march on the 12th or what?
Enjoy your break.
Surely you won't stop posting, just because your on holidays.

Fook it if I thought he'd earn a few quid for it I'd drive him up myself !!!!

RightTurnClyde

mahoney_j wrote: »

.the crap milk price can go ****e !'nn

Too right, here in France atm. Great to get out of the pit after a long hard 6 months. A bit of quality time with the wife and kids puts it all in perspective. Clear the head of farming for a few days and gently soak brain in wine.

whelan2

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Too right, here in France atm. Great to get out of the pit after a long hard 6 months. A bit of quality time with the wife and kids puts it all in perspective. Clear the head of farming for a few days and gently soak brain in wine.
:)

Whats the weather like?

mahoney_j

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Too right, here in France atm. Great to get out of the pit after a long hard 6 months. A bit of quality time with the wife and kids puts it all in perspective. Clear the head of farming for a few days and gently soak brain in wine.
:)

Jaysus ur milk price must be way better than mine I'm only going to cork boi!!!!!.was down south if France a few times over years ,on rugby weekends though mind u staid in Biarritz once and over the border to San Sebastián ,one of the nicest places I've ever been .family trip there def on the cards .dont mind soaking the brain in wine drown yourself in it !!!!!

RightTurnClyde

whelan2 wrote: »

Whats the weather like?

Lovely until this morning. Bbq's weather. 18-21 deg most days. Misting now, but due to clear by midday. We're in La Rocelle, but it's supposed to be dry from Bordeaux down.

RightTurnClyde

mahoney_j wrote: »

Jaysus ur milk price must be way better than mine I'm only going to cork boi!!!!!.was down south if France a few times over years ,on rugby weekends though mind u staid in Biarritz once and over the border to San Sebastián ,one of the nicest places I've ever been .family trip there def on the cards .dont mind soaking the brain in wine drown yourself in it !!!!!

Nothing to do with milk price, this holiday has been kindly sponsored by the Dept of Education

:):) and transport is being covered by the cowsh1t covered farm jeep.
Are you heading Kinsale direction, cracking spot with the right weather.

Water John

Pi**ing here in Cork today J. We should really have arranged a swap. You look after my sucklers and I milk your cows!!!. A cheap holiday for both of us, ha.
Enjoy cork, we love our neighbours.

Buford T. Justice XIX

I just dropped 5 acres of drystock ground for bales.

I'm not sure if I'm optimistic or insane...

mahoney_j

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I just dropped 5 acres of drystock ground for bales.

I'm not sure if I'm optimistic or insane...

Fortune favours the brave !!!!!......do think I'd be so brave at moment though !!!!

Timmaay

Any spray for nettles that is clover safe?

ganmo

Lads I just spotted the attached
Nice to see that boards is supporting the dairy lads!!

whelan2

ganmo wrote: »

Lads I just spotted the attached
Nice to see that boards is supporting the dairy lads!!

See the post above it about the terrorist attack in Turkey. Milking machine man here is there at the minute

Lady lou

Quick question. When feeding bull calves until 2 weeks and feeding heifer calves on to weaning. How much milk per cow is lost. Say a cow gives average of 5000 litres a year. How much of that is lost to rearing calves? Is it much? Or not worth talking about?

Buford T. Justice XIX

Lady lou wrote: »

Quick question. When feeding bull calves until 2 weeks and feeding heifer calves on to weaning. How much milk per cow is lost. Say a cow gives average of 5000 litres a year. How much of that is lost to rearing calves? Is it much? Or not worth talking about?

4-6 liters/calf/day. Starting off at 4 liters and rising up to 6 liters by 3 weeks.

Say 5l/day to 2 weeks= 14dx5l=70l/bull calf

5/day to 2 weeks= 70l
and
6/day to 6 weeks= 28dx6l=168l/heifer calf roughly

Add 70l+168l=238l/heifer

kevthegaff

Lads have a compressor hose fix kin dog ate, anyway says 6.5mm to 10mm, is that 3/8 inch. Need to order a new hose, jeep is starting to get flat

visatorro

kevthegaff wrote: »

Lads have a compressor hose fix kin dog ate, anyway says 6.5mm to 10mm, is that 3/8 inch. Need to order a new hose, jeep is starting to get flat

10mm is very close to 3/8 alright

RightTurnClyde

kevthegaff wrote: »

Lads have a compressor hose fix kin dog ate, anyway says 6.5mm to 10mm, is that 3/8 inch. Need to order a new hose, jeep is starting to get flat

Not sure about air hoses, I thought they were a standard size. But Run down to Thurles, Air impact, they'll have what you want.

freedominacup

I'm a lucky man. My oul boy still knows his stuff. First morning back. Place is exactly how you'd want to find it. I thought leaving that the grass situation was well in hand but he had them on almost half silage for a week. He lost a bit of ground yield wise for a couple of collections but they're back to within a litre of where they were and still climbing.

C0N0R

whelan2 wrote: »

ganmo wrote: »

Lads I just spotted the attached
Nice to see that boards is supporting the dairy lads!!

See the post above it about the terrorist attack in Turkey. Milking machine man here is there at the minute

Have to fly through Istanbul airport soon on my way to Saudi Arabia, not what I want to be hearing!

RightTurnClyde

freedominacup wrote: »

I'm a lucky man. My oul boy still knows his stuff. First morning back. Place is exactly how you'd want to find it. I thought leaving that the grass situation was well in hand but he had them on almost half silage for a week. He lost a bit of ground yield wise for a couple of collections but they're back to within a litre of where they were and still climbing.

Great thing to have "an oul boy" around. They're often under under rated and under valued. My "Bossman" is gone 10 years and I still miss him around the place. Having an experienced set of eyes like that or someone just tipping around place can't be replaced or bought. (As annoying as they can be), They're true value is only appreciated when they're not there anymore.

mf240

Father is 82 this year and working away. He was getting the cows across the road with me the other morning when the bus that takes a few locals into the nursing home for daycare passed. " Isn't it grand for the old craters" he remarked.

awaywithyou

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I just dropped 5 acres of drystock ground for bales.

I'm not sure if I'm optimistic or insane...

ah opitmistic if you baled last night... insane if its not baled yet!!!!

Injuryprone

kevthegaff wrote: »

The ones are coughing to take temperatire , h temperature normally means ibr. Must try a few in the morning. Up the walls lately:-(

Did you get a solution to the coughing, Kev? Mine were/are the exact same. Haven't responded to ibr vaccine anyway

pedigree 6

I see arrabawn have their new promotional video out now.
Wouldn't see glanbia doing that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsUWK-fixiA

alps

kowtow wrote: »

As always, good intentions + more regulation = unintended consequences.

Yep...its incredible really the output from these Dutch farms. 80%grassland now, gone away to a large extent from cropping so that all these farms can get into derogation.

Interestingly met a Dutch grazier who has just changed over to organic. Only a 2 year changeover period. Really knowledgeable grass man, all the figures, and really good cost control. The organics allows him to use conventional sources for 20% of the cows diet. He shortened the lead in time to going organic by utilising this rule claiming yhe 20% went in during the first 2 months of the lead in stage.

My question to him was, with this 20% rule, and the fact that approx 20% of Irish cows diet comes from concentrate, could irish farmers produce organic milk from organic grass and conventional feedstuffs. ?

Would be interesting.��