Neil3030 wrote: » The Super League is the first step toward a situation where an association couldn't stop it happening.
Neil3030 wrote: » For sure there's a clatter of "ifs", but thinking in longer time scales, I just can't see how you stop a club-owned league eventually emerging.
The Inbetween is mine wrote: » Chelsea have blinked!!!
Podge_irl wrote: » absolute lols. No idea what they are thinking. They are removing all leverage the group have and will remain hated and lacking trust going forward.
The Inbetween is mine wrote: » Absolutely bricking it that they would be chucked out of the champions league immediately.... Abramovich didn't like that at all
Podge_irl wrote: » Well they have done a spectacular job of making a bad situation even worse for themselves. They will have made enemies of the entire PL and the 6 non-PL teams in this weird coup attempt.
hold my beer wrote: » That's a funny way of looking at it. Had they continued it would have been a million times worse. They also won't be the only team to pull out. Edit: And City are gone
Podge_irl wrote: » I suspect several of them at least were planning on pulling out the whole time. But if it was a tool/method to gain leverage over the Champions League then they have utterly failed. Dropping out now won't buy them any friends and will just ruin any chance of getting something out of the situation and will simultaneously ruin any chance of the other teams getting anything out of it. Anything other than a joint statement from all the teams was going to make things even messier.
hold my beer wrote: » I wouldn't have been happy had they been given any concessions. They deserve nothing. And I'm guessing most football fans would feel the same.
Larbre34 wrote: » No licence to operate, no planning permission for events (games), no fans, boycotts of merchandise and associate sponsors, potential withdrawal of those same sponsors under pressure from orthodox Football. These fellas can have their league, but it'll be held on a training pitch in Antarctica. I'm not overstating this either, those fans would rather burn down Anfield, Old Trafford, the Bridge and all the rest rather than see this continue. They are frustrated from the pandemic, bored, done with Authority, and sick and tired of being dictated to by prycks like Joel Glazer and Andrea Agnelli. Listening to the organised backlash emerge these last few days I was trying to figure out what was so familiar about it. I came to the realisation that it reminds me of two events in history, Operation Valkyrie and the Turkish Coup of 2016. Why? Both were botched, both were prosecuted by clowns, both were catastrophically misjudged and both were stamped on with such force that all that was left of the organisers was dust and memories. Now that the Super League has roused a sleeping giant, that's the fate the dirty dozen can expect.
Neil3030 wrote: » Money will guide this, long term. If enough revenue is generated outside of Europe and if enough of the bigger clubs and their billionaire owners don't like their cut, a break-away NFL-style league is not just likely, I'd go as far as to say it's probable. The impotent rage of fans in England can be channeled into whatever antisocial behaviour they please, these "clubs" are now global corporations, seeking to maximise their return.
hold my beer wrote: » Completely disagree and this current farce shows it. Football is more than money to too many people. Athletico being reported as gone now too.
Podge_irl wrote: » The entire revamped CL idea was completely money driven to make sure the big name teams all make it. FFP is a joke. Money is already running the sport, this was just either a bridge too far or a leap too early.
hold my beer wrote: » Where are you getting that first sentence from? I'd agree about money ruining the game. My biggest hope now is that they put salary caps in place and enforce them. And maybe cap the price of what clubs can charge fans for match day tickets.
Larbre34 wrote: » Jesus, imagine if you had a massive shareholding in one of these Clubs and this was the strategic judgement of the executive officers playing out in front of you. You'd be fit to be tied. Absolute school of clowns. Perez, Agnelli, Woodward, all up in front of a firing squad by Friday.
The Inbetween is mine wrote: » Woodward is a smarmy git.... but this was not of his doing... the Glazer family drove this on ....I'd think that United will be the last English club to pull out
Podge_irl wrote: » They are trying to put extra qualification places in for teams that have historically done well in the CL but don't make the tournament no? That is the essence of protecting the big money teams. FFP is a joke, there is not a hope of a properly enforced salary cap.
hold my beer wrote: » 2 places, which is completely different than what you said. And people aren't happy about that either.
Podge_irl wrote: » The entire revamped CL idea was completely money driven to make sure the big name teams all make it
Podge_irl wrote: » How is it completely different? They want to make sure that Man U, Liverpool, Juve or whoever don't miss out on the Champions League because of one bad domestic campaign. 2 spots should be more than enough to make sure none of them ever drop out because rarely will multiples of them face such a concern. Its already making a farce of the meritocratic nature of the comp. It's also completely and utterly money driven and one suspects will pass easily now.
Larbre34 wrote: » Wrong. They just have.
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