BB WARNING!

damagegt

I and others I play with recently purchased BBS from a well know shop for 10 euro for 6000, we should have know but were told that they were perfect so we grabbed a few bags.The next 3 skirmish days were an absolute disaster affecting all 7 guns brought out from marui pistols up to m60.Dry fires ,jams.no feed and a massive drop of 50-70 fps.3 other bb types were tried (Devil blasters, G&G Bios and Aimtop) after ranging from .2g to .28g.BE WARNED "DO NOT BUY THESE BBS"

mle1324

What brand where they cos people wont know to stay away from them unless they know what they are.

Damo 2k9

+1, was about to say the same :P

tudenham10

I've a feeling I know which ones they are, the same name as a dinosaur, seen quite a lot in Jurassic Park perhaps??

Puding

well 10e for 6000 would have been my first warning sign tbh

mle1324

tudenham10 wrote: »

I've a feeling I know which ones they are, the same name as a dinosaur, seen quite a lot in Jurassic Park perhaps??

If its them then I'm not surprised.

p.s good way of saying it with out naming them

Blazer

There's an old saying..actually 2 of them

1.You get what you pay for
2. If it looks too good to be true, then it's not.

damagegt

I know I Know we should have known but still......we were stuck as we were waiting for a bulk shipment to come from the uk.And as for a name there was none he was making the 6000 bags from a much larger bag.So just keep a heads up if you see 6000 for 10 euro stay away from them.Im picking up a digital scales and calipers over the week see what size they really were.

moggser

tudenham10 wrote: »

I've a feeling I know which ones they are, the same name as a dinosaur, seen quite a lot in Jurassic Park perhaps??

i know it Craptor??

SugarHigh

Berkut wrote: »

There's an old saying..actually 2 of them

1.You get what you pay for
2. If it looks too good to be true, then it's not.

I think you have that bit mixed up:D

damagegt

i dont think they were craptor.I had a look at them and they weren't the same as those excuse for bbs that he sold us.The craptors were more polished.I dont know what they were but i do know that they were a crock of sh** and hes lost himself a bunch of customers.When times are already tough.

roryk1

may i ask not the name of the dealer but area ie:midlands dublin ggalway ect

horgan_p

From the users location - i'm going to guess it's a cork retailer.

damagegt

Im not sure what im allowed to say so.........I myself am from cork.

Stercus Accidit

In fairness, knowing they are brand X bb's is enough. OP why not contact the retailer and let him know his new batch is rubbish. He can then rectify the situation and stock better bb's in future.

Example, one of our retailers carried a line of aegs, many were returned with internal failures. The retailer fixed the aegs, and discontinued their sale. The retailer wasn't blamed, he fixed the issue and changed his stock accordingly.

This isn't aimed at anyone in particular, I'm just saying we should stick to knowing the bb's are brand X, and let the retailer sort it out, rather than damaging their reputation potentially. They will change stock, we get better bb's, they keep their good name, I doubt a retailer would knowingly sell damaging bb's of unusable quality.

damagegt

Im not sure were they craptor or not as he was filling blank ziplock bags with 6000 bbs taken from a bigger bag.I tried several time to call the shop but to no answer so I gave up on that and instead am just giving a heads up to others.

horgan_p

The guy said he didnt think they were craptor though - see his post above.
I believe it can be sorted with 2 questions -

1) did they come in a bag or a bottle ?
2) what colour was the bag / bottle ?

Beyond that , return the bag to the place you bought them and ask politely for an exchange for perhaps a different brand or a replacement from a different batch.

damagegt

They were in a large bag and the ziplock bags that i left the shop with had nothing on them.From the bags we bought there isnt much left as we played 3 days.Its not the money im looking for or a replacement.Its more just a warning to others.Im a bit pissed that he sold them and told us they were perfect and were just not as polished when obviously he hadn't tested them.

gerrowadat

Exactly. Stick with G&G or Excel brand BBs. I've tried several shop brand bio and non-bio BBs from many shops, and you're taking a gamble. I've had them do everything from jam, to shred my hoprubber with ****ty seams and lack of polish.

As for raptors and markers, don't even get me started. You might as well put those yellow pound shop BBs in your guns.

damagegt

I was buying bulk of gunfire bbs fromm the north and firing over 130000 of them not 1 jam and we were waiting for a delivery from the uk of strike master bios so we bought them here and payed the price.

MerryDespot

G&Gs all the way ... false economy buying crappy cheap bbs as they're bound to cause trouble over the course of a day.

damagegt

well lads just to let ye know dont bother with them.

J.D.R

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

In fairness, knowing they are brand X bb's is enough. OP why not contact the retailer and let him know his new batch is rubbish. He can then rectify the situation and stock better bb's in future.

Example, one of our retailers carried a line of aegs, many were returned with internal failures. The retailer fixed the aegs, and discontinued their sale. The retailer wasn't blamed, he fixed the issue and changed his stock accordingly.

This isn't aimed at anyone in particular, I'm just saying we should stick to knowing the bb's are brand X, and let the retailer sort it out, rather than damaging their reputation potentially. They will change stock, we get better bb's, they keep their good name, I doubt a retailer would knowingly sell damaging bb's of unusable quality.

Don't mean to slander, but aren't Craptors (I like this new name) the "Own Shop Brand" BB's?

If you want good, cheap BB's, I owuld recommend TnT from Quality Airsoft Supplies (carlow and newbridge). They are the same quality as G&G (have had 4 bags of the stuff through a 6.03 precision barrel without a single mishap).

gerrowadat

damagegt wrote: »

well lads just to let ye know dont bother with them.

Don't bother with what? You haven't told us who you're talking about.

Puding

well i worked it out and i think others have as well from what has been brought up, but the warning is a general one 'don;t use **** bbs'

roryk1

wat bbs:D

Puding

The original poster does not know the brand they where taken from an unmarked sack into unmarked small bags, there is not brand of bb to give. The original poster also does not want to name the retailer from his post so instead gave a general warning

i do not see the problem with any of this, am i the only one getting this?

roryk1

no pud i was just joking:D;)

Shiva

roryk1 wrote: »

no pud i was just joking:D;)

This is Airsoft, Son - there ain't no joking in Airsoft :P

Puding

roryk1 wrote: »

no pud i was just joking:D;)

can you tell its a slow night for me? :P

Shiva wrote: »

This is Airsoft, Son - there ain't no joking in Airsoft :P

i can see the motivational posters know 'Airsoftt its serius business'

roryk1

Shiva wrote: »

This is Airsoft, Son - there ain't no joking in Airsoft :P

WAT no joking:(:P

Masada

Puding wrote: »

The original poster does not know the brand they where taken from an unmarked sack into unmarked small bags, there is not brand of bb to give. The original poster also does not want to name the retailer from his post so instead gave a general warning

i do not see the problem with any of this, am i the only one getting this?

Well, its a bit of a wasted effort if we dont know either the Bb name of the shop that's selling them, all we kno is theres some shoite BBs on sale out there at the moment, and it doesn't give much to go on if were to be "warned" about em.

Puding

how is it a wasted effort, it comes down to how you use the information

if it is a gernal warning about cheap bbs, then no its not really a wasted effort

if its a warning against that specific brand of bb then yes its a bit pointless

but as you kindly quoted the posted has not given the name of the shop out of choice and is unable to give brand so left it at a general warning as he believed it would be helpful to some

i give up with this place no wonder no one bothers to post anything encase it is not 100% and some natives are unhappy, the original poster just wanted to maybe help people, for me that's good enought

J.D.R

While this is being discussed, can I bring up Blaster BB's? I have heard them being equaled to Craptors (New brand name) but others swear by them, even with their own 6.03 barrels.

Are they as bad, or a nice little bargain, like the TnT's?

Damo 2k9

Ive used blasters with no problems, its probably only that shop trying to get more sales of there own bbs

Witcher

J.D.R wrote: »

While this is being discussed, can I bring up Blaster BB's? I have heard them being equaled to Craptors (New brand name) but others swear by them, even with their own 6.03 barrels.

Are they as bad, or a nice little bargain, like the TnT's?

Blasters in my experience are the worst bbs going, a bottle of .2 I got some time ago was full of ridged and misshapen bbs, and I've bad quality ones in other peoples bottles at other times so it wasn't just my batch, I'd never buy or use them again.
I've used a lot of different brands but they were the worst.

Lemming

J.D.R wrote: »

While this is being discussed, can I bring up Blaster BB's? I have heard them being equaled to Craptors (New brand name) but others swear by them, even with their own 6.03 barrels.

Are they as bad, or a nice little bargain, like the TnT's?

I've used Blasters (.36g), and my better half runs them in .36g and .43g flavours with a 500fps beastie. Never had a problem with them.

Personally, I swear by Biovals .25g BBs.

chris20

J.D.R wrote: »

While this is being discussed, can I bring up Blaster BB's? I have heard them being equaled to Craptors (New brand name) but others swear by them, even with their own 6.03 barrels.

Are they as bad, or a nice little bargain, like the TnT's?

ive never had any problems with the blasters,have tightbore barrels in all my guns and not a single jam,great bargain bb's,ics bb's are great bargains too,gone through countless bags and not one problem

Puding

J.D.R wrote: »

While this is being discussed, can I bring up Blaster BB's? I have heard them being equaled to Craptors (New brand name) but others swear by them, even with their own 6.03 barrels.

Are they as bad, or a nice little bargain, like the TnT's?

have limited experience with them myself but your best bet is to buy one bottle or even go half's with someone else and simply give them a try as bb performance is a very subjective thing, at the same time it can also have a lot to do with the barrel and bucking your using

i generaly stick with madbull or excel as its down to trust, yes there more expensive but i've yet to find a malformed one

Masada

Puding wrote: »

how is it a wasted effort, it comes down to how you use the information

if it is a gernal warning about cheap bbs, then no its not really a wasted effort

if its a warning against that specific brand of bb then yes its a bit pointless

but as you kindly quoted the posted has not given the name of the shop out of choice and is unable to give brand so left it at a general warning as he believed it would be helpful to some

i give up with this place no wonder no one bothers to post anything encase it is not 100% correct and the natives are unhappy, the original poster wanted to maybe help people it seems

Jaziz yore in an awful sarky mood tonight...

Anyway, before ya go and take the rope, I was simply pointing out, theres already load of cheapo sh1t BBs out there so the warning is a little bit of a "wasted effort".
Whereas if people knew were they were bought or what they were called then there would be a point to the post, ie, people could avoid those BBs.

Nobody is gonna know if they are decent BBs just by looking at them, and the chap selling them is hardlly likely to fess up and say "ahh yeah, these are the cheap cr@p tehy were talkin about on boards,"

Damo 2k9

chris20 wrote: »

ive never had any problems with the blasters,have tightbore barrels in all my guns and not a single jam,great bargain bb's,ics bb's are great bargains too,gone through countless bags and not one problem

Yeh ics are great, very reliable and a good price too, if i was out near the shop that sells them then id be getting them more often.

Masada

The first batch of Blaster i saw was total shoite. wouldn't take em again if they were free. A couple of months later though they had their act together, I presume they found a different supplier or something as they were much better. Still not my favourate BB, but it does the job.

Puding

Masada wrote: »

Jaziz yore in an awful sarky mood tonight...

Anyway, before ya go and take the rope, I was simply pointing out, theres already load of cheapo sh1t BBs out there so the warning is a little bit of a "wasted effort".
Whereas if people knew were they were bought or what they were called then there would be a point to the post, ie, people could avoid those BBs.

Nobody is gonna know if they are decent BBs just by looking at them, and the chap selling them is hardlly likely to fess up and say "ahh yeah, these are the cheap cr@p tehy were talkin about on boards,"

ok maybe it was a little sharp but my point still stands, from the first few posts it was clear the message was ' if it to good to be true then it normally is' in other words if the bb are really cheap then there is normally a good reason, know this may be common sence to me and you but tbh i still meet a hell of a lot of people who go out looking for the cheapest bb they can find and wonder why they have problems

if this thread stops a few people doing this then this thread is far more informative than half the rubbish that has been going on at time

Rooky1

Blasters work fine with no problems in my experience!
Personally I stick to G&G's.
Excells, ICS, Systema and Madbull BB's are also just as good.

Craptors:D and Biovals are utter ****e!!! (This is my personal opinion, others like the Biovals)
I tried Biovals with my Systema PTW running at 320fps and they split in the barrel and ruined the hop unit (not cheap):(

At the end of the day you get what you pay for!
Stick to the well known brands, well worth the extra couple of quid:)

damagegt

Masada wrote: »

Jaziz yore in an awful sarky mood tonight...

Anyway, before ya go and take the rope, I was simply pointing out, theres already load of cheapo sh1t BBs out there so the warning is a little bit of a "wasted effort".
Whereas if people knew were they were bought or what they were called then there would be a point to the post, ie, people could avoid those BBs.

Nobody is gonna know if they are decent BBs just by looking at them, and the chap selling them is hardlly likely to fess up and say "ahh yeah, these are the cheap cr@p tehy were talkin about on boards,"

I would love nothing more to tell you the name of the bbs but i dont know.There was no name.I have given all the info i have on them apart from the retailer and i dont think its my place to name and shame someone for selling an inferior product so all i was doing was giving a waring that there is a retailer in my area selling sh** generic bbs in bags of 6000 for 10 euro.Sorry i cant be more specific for you.If you cant narrow it down from there...........

damagegt

Puding wrote: »

ok maybe it was a little sharp but my point still stands, from the first few posts it was clear the message was ' if it to good to be true then it normally is' in other words if the bb are really cheap then there is normally a good reason, know this may be common sence to me and you but tbh i still meet a hell of a lot of people who go out looking for the cheapest bb they can find and wonder why they have problems

if this thread stops a few people doing this then this thread is far more informative than half the rubbish that has been going on at time

Exactly.If it stops 1 person from sending there money on these,that's good enough,i have bought bulk buys of bbs working out at 8 euros a bag and had no problems with them .We were a bit weary with these but the seller told us they were perfect and we would have no problems,This is the part that gets me,fair enough its our fault for not testing them but to be told that they were perfect when there clearly not.I think this is what people need to be more warned about as well as watching out for the bbs themselves.As for blaster personally I think there fine never had a problem with them.

Masada

damagegt wrote: »

I would love nothing more to tell you the name of the bbs but i dont know.There was no name.I have given all the info i have on them apart from the retailer and i dont think its my place to name and shame someone for selling an inferior product so all i was doing was giving a waring that there is a retailer in my area selling sh** generic bbs in bags of 6000 for 10 euro.Sorry i cant be more specific for you.If you cant narrow it down from there...........

Drop them a line and explain the situation, you have done them more than a favour by withholding their name dispite them selling you an inferior product.
If they look after ya and it turns out the BBs were an isolated case with a dodgey batch then no harm done, but if they don't sort ya out i would definitely name em, Some other sod is gonna go in there and make exactly the same mistake you made,

damagegt

Ah see that's the reason i posted here we tried ringing them a few times and no1 was answering so i gave up on that.I wonder has any 1 here bought them and had the same problem.It wasn't just in 1 gun in was in over 7 different guns so im sure if you had bought them you'd have the same problem.


So has anyone else bought bbs from a cork retailer (there isnt many in cork so...) for 10 euro for 6000,They have no name on the zip-lock bags and aren't highly polished?

Beez

Feck it ill name em, i had my hop up on full and they were still dropping straight to the ground. **** shop anyway. :eek:

damagegt

beez that's up to you.;) I tried ringing again yesterday.Do you have any left?we don't have enough to bring back.Does luca still have hes? and ill see if rob and Richie have any.I think Kev threw all hes out.

Beez

damagegt wrote: »

beez that's up to you.;) I tried ringing again yesterday.Do you have any left?we don't have enough to bring back.Does luca still have hes? and ill see if rob and Richie have any.I think Kev threw all hes out.

Na i wont name em i think its fairly obvious what shop it is. I have a small amoung left that iv been using at home to test ROF of new battery but not many. Id say Luka prob has most of his ill tell him to bring them up to Cork and get a refund.