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US Visa

IronMan

Hello

I will be finished college in September, and was thinking of applyiny for a Visa to the US. Just beginning to research the idea.

Is there a visa you can get that entitles you to work there for say a year? Or do you have to apply for a Green Card, and hope you get called?

If such a short-term visa exists, do you have to have a job got before you head over, or can you get the visa and apply for a job once you get there?

If such a visa exists, can it be issues quite quickly eg within the year?

Had a look at the US embassy website, they want people to ring a €1.90 per minute helpline, I would like to get a few facts together first before I make that particular investment!

Cheers

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Victor

Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
Not if you join the internal security forces, like the Police, home guard, security man, or nightwatchman.

Unlike here, cops in the USA can be members of the National Guard / Army Reserve In fact New York city is mightily miffed at the number of cops and firemen that ended up in Iraq, after loosing quite a few on September 11th and needing to recruit more to improve security.

ThreadKiller

Originally posted by Doctor J
I trust, after that statement, you're not a fan then?

I've really only my own opinion of the man, I don't know enough about him to make an official statement, however I will say this...

I've spent a lot of time in the US & I feel safer there than here, my money goes further there than here, & the majority of things are better there than here...

Doctor J

Yup, just read the book. It'll make more sense than you think.

inaccessibleisl

Originally posted by Doctor J

Read the book 1984 to gain a better insight into what's going on over there.

Yeah but it's 2004, get with the times man.

Doctor J

I trust, after that statement, you're not a fan then?

ThreadKiller

The majority have stood up & protested, free speech is allowed (in previously designated "free speech zones").

Bush is in charge, there is two ways of getting rid of him, the bullet & the ballot, we'll see at the end of this year, because if the ballot doesn't work you can be damn sure the bullet will happen.

Doctor J

Then isn't it time the majority stood up for themselves and said no to war? Or isn't freedom of speech and thought allowed anymore?

ThreadKiller

It appears to be the nature of the american to need to assert it's will upon others. If they're not fighting someone else they'll just fight each other. Make sure you're not in the middle of it all. America needs a baddie, someone they can blame for all the woes in the world and distract the poor folk who live there from what's really going on. If it's not the communists, it's the arabs, if not the arabs, then the muslims

You're generalising. If you look at American history, when the economy goes down the instance of war goes up, War is an economic driver. It's also such a big country that approx 70% of the population don't own a passport. There's absolutly no need to leave the country. They're self sufficent (to an extent). If they were to ignore the goings on in the rest of the world & put up their borders, they could quite happilly live long lives without any interaction with the rest of us, while the rest of us go on picking wars etc.

The shrub shouldn't have got in & is an idiot (or puppet depending on your outlook)

Yes America comes off as gung ho & the world police & flag waving zealots, but a couple of things I'd like to point out...

1. I'd hate to see what things would be like now if the US didn't get involved in wars.
2. I'd love to be able to wave a flag & be patriotic but that right has been denied me by a bunch of gun toting idiots, 80 miles north.

Doctor J

Ahhh sarcasm. Wonderful. My point is, it rarely matters what the majority of Americans want. They (let's say the administration of the time, rather than the people themselves) always seem to end up in conflicts somewhere. As soon as one enemy is vanquished another appears. Why?

ThreadKiller

OK Doctor J, I'll concede. You obviously know everything there is to know about the US... :rolleyes:

Doctor J

The majority of americans voted for Gore. What does the majority matter in that country?

ThreadKiller

Originally posted by Doctor J
It appears to be the nature of the american to need to assert it's will upon others. If they're not fighting someone else they'll just fight each other. Make sure you're not in the middle of it all. America needs a baddie, someone they can blame for all the woes in the world and distract the poor folk who live there from what's really going on. If it's not the communists, it's the arabs, if not the arabs, then the muslims, etc etc etc

Read the book 1984 to gain a better insight into what's going on over there.

Because that's such an accurate historical document ?

When was the last time you were in the US ?

I'm just back & the majority of americans just want an end to conflict.

Doctor J

It appears to be the nature of the american to need to assert it's will upon others. If they're not fighting someone else they'll just fight each other. Make sure you're not in the middle of it all. America needs a baddie, someone they can blame for all the woes in the world and distract the poor folk who live there from what's really going on. If it's not the communists, it's the arabs, if not the arabs, then the muslims, etc etc etc

Read the book 1984 to gain a better insight into what's going on over there.

inaccessibleisl

Originally posted by SheroN
another war is quite likely within the next few years, I'd get in training if i were you.

Not if you join the internal security forces, like the Police, home guard, security man, or nightwatchman.
Also not if you escape and pull a legger for Canadia.

inaccessibleisl

Originally posted by uberwolf
what i was laughing at was "having recently aquired a visa" you feel qualified "to speak for all americans"

I'm sure I'd have no objections from Americans.

I think I speak for everyone when I say that.

SheroN

another war is quite likely within the next few years, I'd get in training if i were you.

uberwolf

what i was laughing at was "having recently aquired a visa" you feel qualified "to speak for all americans"

inaccessibleisl

Originally posted by uberwolf
WTF

I recently aquired a visa.

Plus DoctorJ has a point. When I got my permanent residency visa I had to sign a form which agreed that I could, if between 18 & 25, be conscripted if conscription was introduced. So the sooner this war is over the better. The last time conscription came in was the Vietnam war, and before that WW2.

Squall

The easiest thing would be to find a job over there first then get a company to sponsor you for a work visa.

Doctor J

Go to Canada or Australia. Bush is nuts. He'll have us all put to the sword.

uberwolf

Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
As a future American resident I think I speak for all Americans when I say, stay at home please. .

WTF

inaccessibleisl

Originally posted by Man

I clearly seem to remember in his press conference, he made a point of stating that while it would regularise the status of current illegal immigrants, it wouldnt be at the expense of others not yet in the U.S from using the scheme, if they could prove that thye had a job guaranteed there.
Just want the clarification of course, instead of speculation.
the latter might discourage people from going to work in the states if they want to

What he meant was people who appl legally for a Visa would not be affected by this. He didn't say people applying for a three yr visa, just a visa in general.

inaccessibleisl

I also remember said speech. However this work visa for illegals has not yet been passed through congress, therefore it's not applicable yet. Bush is doing it for the sole reason of getting the hispanic vote and there isn't an ethnic community that has more illegals than Hispanic Americans.
There are working visas. Not for a year, for whenever your company wants you to work for them and for how long. Or you can start your own business and get a work visa. I have a Green card, I know what you can and can't get I've been applying for years. This three year visa is ONLY APPLICABLE TO ILLEGALS. Same thing has happened before, illegal immigrants who can prove they've been illegal in the U.S for a certain period can apply for visas and in the past citizenship.
There seems to be a notion among us spudmunchers that if your Irish you can get a visa like getting a passport. It's harder than you like to think it is.

[Deleted User]

Originally posted by inaccessibleisl
Hasn't been passed through congress yet. Does not apply to people who want to come into country, only people who can prove they have a job and had it for a while.
After those three years, it is possible for the government to find them, and kick them out, for good.
But there are ways around it. Book a flight to Canada. Dress up as a hedge and rub yourself with nettles (as this is the one plant that hides the odour of human). Scuttle across the fields, and your in. A tree disguise could also work.
OR! Paint yourself silver and ship a 'robot' to a friend/relative in the U.S. Conceal yourself in a large box and have a oxygen tank on your back. Customs won't be suspicious of the tank b'cause robots have wierd things like that. Maybe make a fake homemade laser cannon for your arm etc to make you look more 'robot'.

It is quite clear to me that you do not want anymore people going to work in America.
Could you point to a link in the proposed legislation outlining the conditions of the "new" working visa or "amnesty" announced by Bush.
I clearly seem to remember in his press conference, he made a point of stating that while it would regularise the status of current illegal immigrants, it wouldnt be at the expense of others not yet in the U.S from using the scheme, if they could prove that thye had a job guaranteed there.
Just want the clarification of course, instead of speculation.
the latter might discourage people from going to work in the states if they want to

Grom

That visa thing for 36 months looks quite interesting I might take a more detailed look into that

inaccessibleisl

Originally posted by Man
Did Bush not announce, a couple of weeks back that all existing illegal immigrants could apply for temporary work permits for 3 years and this would be open to those who want to come in aswell as long as they could prove that they have a job to go to.

Hasn't been passed through congress yet. Does not apply to people who want to come into country, only people who can prove they have a job and had it for a while.
After those three years, it is possible for the government to find them, and kick them out, for good.
But there are ways around it. Book a flight to Canada. Dress up as a hedge and rub yourself with nettles (as this is the one plant that hides the odour of human). Scuttle across the fields, and your in. A tree disguise could also work.
OR! Paint yourself silver and ship a 'robot' to a friend/relative in the U.S. Conceal yourself in a large box and have a oxygen tank on your back. Customs won't be suspicious of the tank b'cause robots have wierd things like that. Maybe make a fake homemade laser cannon for your arm etc to make you look more 'robot'.

JazzyJ

You can also get a H1 visa if you're sponsored by a company over there. The only drawback is that the visa is connected to the company that you're working for.

For some information see:
http://www.immigration-attorneys-research.com/H1-Visa.html

[Deleted User]

Did Bush not announce, a couple of weeks back that all existing illegal immigrants could apply for temporary work permits for 3 years and this would be open to those who want to come in aswell as long as they could prove that they have a job to go to.

inaccessibleisl

As a future American resident I think I speak for all Americans when I say, stay at home please. Unemployment is higher than it has been for 12yrs. We need the jobs.
Thx.
Plus, no 1yr Visas available.

embee

According to the US Department of State - Bureau of Consular Affairs you CAN apply for a Visa to work in the US as a Temporary Non-Immigrant Worker but from what I can make out numbers are somewhat limited. If you have a degree in something when going it may help your cause, as from reading that, skilled workers are welcomed.

Alternatively, and this is probably a longshot, there is the Walsh Visa . This scheme provides for young people between 18-35 who are from the Border Counties (Louth, Monaghan, Cavan, Donegal, Sligo, Leitrim) of the Republic of Ireland or from Northern Ireland to get a special visa under the Irish Peace Process Cultural & Training Program to go to the US and live and work for up to 36 months. Your flight out and back is paid for as far as I can remember, and they assist in getting you work and finding you accomodation and help out with cash to start you off on your feet. Could be something to think about for anyone else out there who is thinking of it......