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Bike lessons under level 5 restrictions

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  • 21-10-2020 8:55pm
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    myclist
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭


    Anyone know if lessons are allowed under level 5. My instructor says he is waiting for clarification from the RSA. Got an appointment this morning at last for test next month and would like to get a couple of pretest lessons and I'm also depending on him for a bike for the test as neither of mine are suitable. Thanks.


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    dmigsy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭dmigsy


    myclist wrote: »
    Anyone know if lessons are allowed under level 5. My instructor says he is waiting for clarification from the RSA. Got an appointment this morning at last for test next month and would like to get a couple of pretest lessons and I'm also depending on him for a bike for the test as neither of mine are suitable. Thanks.

    Interested in this. I have my test scheduled for next month. Supposed to be going ahead but I can't go out and get any practice in :confused::confused::confused:


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    flashinthepan
    Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭flashinthepan


    My young lad was due to sit the theory test tomorrow and got an email today about 8pm to say it was cancelled
    I think everything will end up closed again :-(


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    myclist
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭myclist


    Theory is cancelled. Tests for essential workers are going ahead, and that basically means if you have a test appointment you can avail of it. The lack of clarity is around lessons.


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,921 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Looks like you can still have lessons. But you can't do your test if you aren't an essential worker. The RSA has no way of knowing if you are an essential worker or not. So no idea when you will get a new date if you are honest non essential worker, I know what I would do if I wasn't an essential worker especially for the bike test



    https://www.thejournal.ie/driving-test-nct-level-5-5240479-Oct2020/


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    myclist
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭myclist


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Looks like you can still have lessons. But you can't do your test if you aren't an essential worker. The RSA has no way of knowing if you are an essential worker or not. So no idea when you will get a new date if you are honest non essential worker, I know what I would do if I wasn't an essential worker especially for the bike test



    https://www.thejournal.ie/driving-test-nct-level-5-5240479-Oct2020/

    One may have the potential to be an essential worker if one had a licence!!!


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    macplaxton
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    "instruction" is on the list

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/c9158-essential-services/
    (u) Driver Testing Services provided by the Road Safety Authority for the purposes of section 33 of the Road Traffic Act 1961 (No. 24 of 1961) for people involved in the provision of essential services or essential retail outlets;

    (v) Driving instruction provided by instructors on the Register of Approved Diving instructors, established under Part 3 of the Road Traffic (Driving Instructor Licensing) (No.2) Regulations 2009 (S.I. No. 203 of 2009), where the person receiving instruction has a booking reserved to undergo a test for the purposes of section 33 of the Road Traffic Act 1961 (No. 24 of 1961);


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    enrique66_35
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    So pre-test lessons are fine if you have a test booked & are an essential worker ("wink wink") and IBT and all other lessons/instruction are off.

    Seems more relaxed than the total shutdown last time which is sensible given the massive backlog caused by that.


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    there is no reason to not undertake any lessons or bike tests. They are socially isolated - separate vehicles. The test is outdoors in the main.

    'Essential' has nothing to do with it - my son did his a few weeks ago, and it's patently not a risky excercise.

    Car lessons, or car tests, not quite so clear cut, but bike tests should carry on.

    Ode To The Motorist

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    dmigsy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭dmigsy


    galwaytt wrote: »
    there is no reason to not undertake any lessons or bike tests. They are socially isolated - separate vehicles. The test is outdoors in the main.

    'Essential' has nothing to do with it - my son did his a few weeks ago, and it's patently not a risky excercise.

    Car lessons, or car tests, not quite so clear cut, but bike tests should carry on.

    Totally agree. The problem is that there are so many possible and sensible exemptions that should be in place, they'll go with a blanket rule for convenience.


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    myclist
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    dmigsy wrote: »
    Totally agree. The problem is that there are so many possible and sensible exemptions that should be in place, they'll go with a blanket rule for convenience.

    It seems clarification is needed about the 5km rule.


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,921 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    myclist wrote: »
    It seems clarification is needed about the 5km rule.

    Your supposed to stay indoors except for exercise, shopping or essential reasons. The 5km is only for exercise. You can go future for shopping or other essential reasons, if you are doing the lessons or the test you can travel because you are an "essential" worker.


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    macplaxton
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    I'm visiting my great-great-great uncle Joe's grave.


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    Del2005
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    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    I dont see that in the official guidelines (https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2dc71-level-5/)

    There will be a penalty for movement outside 5 kilometres of home, with the following exceptions:

    And I don't see shopping in that list (apart from food shopping)


    "At Level 5, the public health risk means that you will be asked to stay at home, with certain exceptions."

    Yet all these stores can stay open, but you can't go to then regardless of how far away from you they are.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/60ecc-essential-retail-outlets-for-level-5/?referrer=http://www.gov.ie/en/publication/60ecc-essential-retail-outlets-for-level-4/


    Like the original social bubble guidelines they have no idea what they are saying to people!


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    Nozebleed
    Registered Users Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    IBT is going ahead in tallaght.. the lads at shamrock rovers stadium were out and about yesterday (thursday 22nd)


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