2017 Cheltenham Preview Night

Kevin Blake and Tony Keenan are good gallery and decent writers/analysts too

No he didn't say but they mentioned it on the ATR preview there and Noel fehily will ride it in the bumper

PM me nudes wrote: »

Yeah, the role of a bellend

Eloquently put.

SeanGraham.com Preview night on tonight in Belfast:

As ever we kick things off with the Supreme Novices Hurdle...
Richard: Moon Racer represents the best value if he does rock up here. Best of the English form
Gordon: Movewithtimes has a lot of experience. He'll do for me.
David: Bunk Off Early is a classy horse. He jumps well. Hopefully he'll have a chance coming up the hill. Maybe not the best value
Couch: Neon WOlf outstanding at Haydock. Elgin at 50/1 isn't out of it either.
Noel: Neon Wolf would have to be very soft to turn up here. Beyond Conceit chance if it comes up slow. Scudamore likes Moon Racer a lot
Brian mentions RIver Wylde form ties in with Neon WOlf and Altior. Nice each way price and is unbeaten

Arkle
Noel says Altior could well be the best horse he's ever ridden! Couch says we want to see Altior v Douvan. Royal Caviar without the fav
Brian again gives a good word for Royal Caviar without. David completely disagrees! Look for one that might drop in he says and come late
RIchard: A Hare Breath has a good cruising speed. He could come round the back and pick up the pieces for without market

Champion hurdle
Richard: Yanwroth isn't straight forward,
Richard: It's wide open. Hopefully they supplement Limini. Sent off favourite to beat Buveur D'air at Aintree pulled too hard
Noel: Buveur D'air is a good horse, would like the ground to be on slow side. Not impressed with Yanworth at Wincanton. Limini is danger
Couch: Brain Power has improved massively. Last run at Ascot form is rock solid. Buveur is very ground dependant. Can't have Petit Mouchoir
Neil: Moon Racer has good form with the novices. Good course form. Dark horse if he rocks up. Not impressed with Yanworth at Wincanton
Gordon: Yanworth keeps doing what he has to do. Solid enough.

Onto the Neptune. Richard not keen on Finians Oscar. Capitane has let the form down
Noel: Neon Wolf P2P winner, trip will suit. Great turn of foot at Haydock. Finian Oscar done nothing wrong but form is terrible
Gordon: Shattered Love and Brelade will both run here. Bacardys and Monalee good shouts for Ireland
Couch: Neon Wolf is a cert. Time at Haydock fantastic. Great race for favs. Finian Oscar desperate form in the Tolworth
David: Bacardys our main hope. Done well to win deloitte. Interupted prep. Big fan of Neon Wolf.

RSA
Richard: Flat track bully is Might Bite. Short enough on his form. American really good at Warwick. Like his jumping. Been bit fragile
David: Bellshill came out of fall fine in schooling. Hard to be confident though. Don't like the favourite. Like Whisper each way
Noel: American runs if its a bit soft. Needs to improve on Wariwck run. No reason why he can't. Can't have Might Bite. Jumping shaky
Couch: Can't have Might Bite at all. Acapella did a great time. Alpha has the best form in the race. Mouse is back in form. Good record
Noel: Like Whisper. Likes good ground. Davy good rider for him. Wouldn't put anyone off American
Brian: Whisper - four course wins, rated 164 over hurdles. This race will be run to suit. Very hard to beat.

Champion Bumper
Champion Bumper: David: Didn't think we had good bumper horse at start of year then they all started winning.
Noel: Quick Grab Em I will ride. Daphne Du Clos doesn't go

Ryanair:
David Casey: UDS is a bet, in great form working well. Solid form round Cheltenham. ANy bit of cut in ground big plus.
Neil: Fox Norton 2m 5f could improve him. Has to be a major player.
Noel: UDS wins on slow ground simple. Josses Hill good at Huntingdon. Not as good going left handed. I ride Vaniteux. Each way chance
Richard: Uxizandre good effort last time. Best of English Josses Hill jumping a concern. Empire Of Dirt great chance in Gold Cup
Couch: Empire Of Dirt in the wrong race. If UDS gets taken on he's a bit of a sulker. Gordon wone an outstanding job taking on Willie
GOB says what are the chances of O'leary letting you run Empire of Dirt in Gold Cup. Goron replies: SLIM!
Stayers
Noel: Not a very big horse but he just keeps on finding more improvement. Best performance the last day. (UKWIMH)
Richard: Camping Ground improved on first run for Gary Moore, could be the dark horse in the field
David: Shaneshill 3 seconds at the Festival. Jezki best form in the race. Beat the last day. Ground didn't suit. Fav hard to beat
Neil: Fav just keeps winning. ALways does enough. Ballyoptic had a little wind op so might find improvement for the forecast
Couch: Unowhatimeanharry reminds me of Big Bucks, Inglis Drever etc. Cole Harden getting 8 lbs last time and didn't get close. BOMBPROOF

Truimph
Ronan: Impressed with Mega Fortune in Leopardstown. Gotta take the short ones on.
Couch: Interested in what David has to way about Meri Devie, Impressed with her at Leopardstown
Couch: Don;t think Defi has beaten anything. GOB think it's the Nap of the week
Gordon: Mega Fortune is in good form but irish horses are beating each other. Quick ground a worry. EW Chance. Improved for headgear
David: Huge fan of the fav. Irish have all ran against each other and beat each other. No outstanding Irish. Defi done it well. Track helps
Noil: Favourite is way ahead. I rode Charlie first time he was impressive but a fall last time isn't great prep.

Albert Bartlett
Richar: West Approach made significant amount of ground in the Cleeve. Dropping back to novice company helps. Strong renewal of the race.
David: Augusta Kate would of won the last day if she didn't fall. Goes to teh race fresh. Working well. Likes a bit of cut.
David: Penhill isn't out of it either. Step up to 3 miles has helped his jumping. Kemboy also runs, nice spread. Agusta best chance
Gordon: Death Duty I love him. Gallops settles jumps. Think the world of him. Respect Augusta, but at this stage he better than Don Cossack
Noel: Death Duty a tough horse will suit hte race. West Approach very good form behind Harry.

Gold Cup
Richard says there's no value on Cue Card. Not convinced with Native River. Horse that run on heavy are 0/79 on GC day
Gordon: Djakadam a good thing in the Gold Cup. Better prep this year than last. Outlander shouldnt be good enough.
Noel: Native River > Cue Card - Djakadam ran in good gold cup last year stonger than this year. Better prep this year. Take on top two
David: Djakadam flying I rode him work other day. Will take a hell of a lot of beating. Cue Card has no chance
David: More Of That outside chance. Won stayers Hurdle. Showed a bit of spark the last day.
Neil: Native River very consistent will gallop of the hill. Djakadam is solid. Better prep helps.
Couch: Djakadam has fallen twice out of four at Cheltenham. Cue Card can't win at 11. LAy him till cows come home. Native River for me
Ronan: Will be 4 the field on the day. There will be a plunge horse though. Djakadam likely. Ruby not hard on him at Christmas
Richard: UNderstand the NAtive River angle if it's attritional. More Of That not much racing. Great WOrld Hurdle winner.
Handicap time:
Richard likes Holywell (Ultima), Itsafreebe (novices hcap), Winter Escape NAP (coral Cup)
Neil: Shantou Village won't go. Fornight behind in prep. WIll look at Aintree or Ayr
Neil: Like Southfield Royale chance in Kim Muir. Did well in four miler last year. Form strong.
Couch: Agree with Neil on Southfield. WEll handicapped. Romain De Sename in the Nov Hcap. Coral Cup best hcaped horse of week Consul De Thai
Gary passes on good world for Rock The World, from Robbie Power trained by Jessie
David: Yorkhill I think will win. Forget about first two fences of schooling, electric down the bank. Let's dance trip on short side
Noel: Druids Nephew in the Ultima big chanceand is in great form. Divin Bere in the Fred Winter, won cosy enough last day.
Gordon: Noble Endeavour has good form at Cheltenham. Running well. Apples Jade each way chance came out of the last day well
Gordon: Tiger Roll on good ground would have a good chance at 20/1. No point running if it's soft
Gordon: Tombstone if allowed will run in Coral Cup. Beat Jezki last day.
Gordon: Mick Jazz runs in County Hurdle, if he settles he has a good chance of running well.
Gary: Forge Meadows in Mares Novice. Pertemps - Presenting Percy. Noble Endeavour

Conflicted about Emmet Kennedy really

The banter and unfunny in jokes are painful, his muggish approach to punting irks me even more.

On the other hand I believe he is has the broadcasting background and the podcast is his pet project so he has done well to have brought it this far, get the ATR sponsorship etc. Really enjoy nearly all of the regulars and would miss it if it folded so fair play to him for that and wish him well

Neil Channing is a spoofer of the highest regard, the fact people pay him to to tip them losers beggars belief.

He's an out and out degenerate and hasn't a clue about horse racing, as a racing fan myself I've tried debate a few inaccuracies of his on previews he's done on youtube in previous years for the festival and he just blocked me.

danganabu wrote: »

He's very annoying and obnoxious but is far from a degenerate.

I'd have a degenerate gambler as someone who regularly backs anything at all to pass the time. He commented just last night on something I was listening to(pure ****e whatever it was) about how he'd be watching football matches and have a number of bets on it to pass the time. Hardly the behaviour of a so called pro punter.

posturingpat wrote: »

Neil Channing is a spoofer of the highest regard, the fact people pay him to to tip them losers beggars belief.

He's an out and out degenerate and hasn't a clue about horse racing, as a racing fan myself I've tried debate a few inaccuracies of his on previews he's done on youtube in previous years for the festival and he just blocked me.

Id have the complete opposite opinion. He talks about value in the correct way as far as im concerned and having listened to him many times on various subjects (poker/betting etc) he is as knowledgeable as it comes regarding finding the profit in a race.

danganabu wrote: »

It is the behaviour of a pro punter when the bets are consistently +ev and he continually makes a profit, can't stand the fcuker but the numbers don't lie.

Cannot stand him either. Complete rambler on the podcasts, I can never get a coherent message from him. However, if he's hitting +Ev which is publicly verifiable then I guess he's doing something right. Still cannot listen to him

BumperD wrote: »

Cannot stand him either. Complete rambler on the podcasts, I can never get a coherent message from him. However, if he's hitting +Ev which is publicly verifiable then I guess he's doing something right. Still cannot listen to him

Im not buying it at all. Apparently hes proofed but I've no interest checking. All I know is he's clueless when talking sport.

Wouldn't mind listening to the timeform one any other way of hearing it for those of us not on Facebook

Between the picture cutting out and the sound quality i couldn't stay with that any longer

Had a quick flick through one or two vids from the betbright preview. Paul kealy and joe tizzard slurring their words good god they must have made the most of the free bar before going on stage

posturingpat wrote: »

Neil Channing is a spoofer of the highest regard, the fact people pay him to to tip them losers beggars belief.

He's an out and out degenerate and hasn't a clue about horse racing, as a racing fan myself I've tried debate a few inaccuracies of his on previews he's done on youtube in previous years for the festival and he just blocked me.

And you wonder why he blocked you!:D

Boyles Preview live on RTE 2FM Now

Cheltenham Preview Night – Haydock Park – Monday 6th March
MC – Jonathan Doidge (JD)
Henry Brooke – HB
Micky Hammond – MH
Andy Gibson – AG
Kyle Drummond – KD

MC JD says they will review the Champion races first for each day followed by the other Grade 1s then the Handicaps.

Day 1 – Champion Hurdle.

HB – Impressed by Buveur Dair LTO at Sandown but Cheltenham is a much different track.
KD – Would lay Buveur Dair. Feels it is an afterthought with the switch back to hurdles after Faugheen etc. pulling out. Will give 4/1 for up to £100.
AG – Depends on the ground, if it is actual Good/Soft or a PR Good/soft. BD would like it Good/Soft. Noel Fehily good pair of hands and will guarantee a place. AG suggests backing BD in running as he is likely to be held up.
MH – Petit Mouchoir has excellent chance but also likes BD. Has been told BD is working very well at home. This isn’t a vintage Champion Hurdle. Would lay Yanworth, not good enough.
JD confirms Mark Walsh will ride Buveur Dair.
HB – thinks you can discount Yanworth’s last win.
AG – Yanworth is quirky, clouts a few hurdles and will trade higher in running. Thinks PM will lead and The New One will go after him but doesn’t think PM will last home (fade 2 or 3 out) so may be a trade off opportunity in running.
KD – Brain Power has come on a lot this season and entitled to be here but will go off bigger on the day.
MH – Says Brain Power has more to find and BD will win.
AG – If Limini is supplemented it would be interesting, travels well but also has a bit to find.
KD – The New One has no chance, move on.

Arkle

KD – Altior, so impressive and is a banker. Charbel E/W as an alternative
AG – Should have backed Charbel in the without Altior market when he was a much bigger price. Was 12s now 5/2.
MH – Yorkhill will go JLT, Altior was great at Newbury, will win. Race to sit back and enjoy.
HB – If he could ride anything in the race bar Altior it would be Cloudy Dream but nothing will get near Altior.
AG – Better ground would suit Cloudy Dream and the trainer says he has an E/W chance.

Supreme Novices

KD – Melon is so short as he is a Mullins horse and will give 5/1 on him.
AG – Melon is a false favourite, also says due to the horse and jockey. His times are not as good as PM or even Let’s Dance, would oppose at this price.
MH – Moon Racer has a chance if he turns up here. Melon has right connections and Mullins has several to pick from so he must think Melon has a good chance here. Thinks winner will come from first 3 or 4 in market.
HB – Doesn’t think Neon Wolf will run here and Melon does has a chance.
AG & MH both like Ballyandy.
HB – Expects Ballyandy and Moon Racer to battle out the finish.

Mares Novices

AG – No Bet, Vroum Vroum Mag worthy favourite and will probably win.
HB – VVM fan, won well LTO at Doncaster and he was ill.
MH – VVM.

Ultima

KD - Taken next to nothing Ante-post on this race or the Close Brothers handicap.
JD – Likes Rock the Kasbah.
AG – Likes Singlefarmpayment but unsure if he runs here or the Kim Muir (until I tell him at the break!!). Ballylongford is a decent E/W at about 50s.
MH – Likes Champers on Ice wherever he runs (here or the 4miler) and also the Druids Nephew both E/W,
HB – Holywell E/W.

Close Brothers

AG – Backed Foxtail Hall. AG then mentions that Brian Hughes who hasn’t made it tonight is very keen indeed on his ride Double Ws and suggests and E/W bet. BH says he has a MASSIVE chance. Interesting!!
MH – Would back Foxtail Hill.
HB – Make sure you pick a solid jumper in this race as they go quick.

Couple of questions from the floor but nothing else really to note from Day 1.

Day 2 – Queen Mother Champion Chase

MH - Douvan worthy favourite. Gods Own e/w possibly but would back Special Tiara e/w
AG - Backed Special Tiara e/w, good bet
HB - Gods Own will plod on. Douvan is best horse in training and won't be beat.
MH - Also likes Special Tiara e/w

Neptune

AG - Neon Wolf’s performance LTO was brilliant. Unknown around Cheltenham, would prefer soft ground. No bet for him. MDO to place is pushed
KD - Couldn't believe his firm put up Neon Wolf at 3s in racing post. Wouldn't oppose him
HB - Finians Oscar has done what is expected of him, gets job done. Loves Neon Wolf, won't have a problem with the hill.
MH - Thinks Finians Oscar will make a great chaser in time. Neon wolf will have too much toe for them. Would like to see Death Duty in here.
AG - the form of FO has collapsed lately.

RSA

AG - Might bite very good LTO but only time at Cheltenham didn't jump all. However he could quite easily make all.
KD - in previous preview nights the Henderson team are really keen on Whisper as is Davy Russell who will ride. Also thinks MB may make all. If ground becomes testing then he would back American but he is a fragile horse.
MH - Royal Vacation has a slight chance but Whisper is his idea of a winner
HB - Royal vacation has won races due to others failing. Would listen to the Henderson yard over Whisper.

Bumper

KD - Dan Skelton keen on Cause Tojours. Currently about 10/1 e/w.
MH - Ballyward e/w
AG & HB - No real thoughts.

Coral Cup

KD - Elliot wants to run Tombstone here. Owner wants Champion Hurdle
AG - Peregrine Run in off 142 e/w at 12s. Be suited by a fast gallop
MH – Air Horse One e/w if he runs
HB - Points out that all Elliott's runners will have a chance of winning. Bryan Cooper very bullish about his rides.

Fred Winter

JD - Likes Divin Bere.
AG - If he had to pick one would go Dinaria Des Obeaux. Not strong but catches eye.
KD - Long Call is extremely well fancied by Tony Martin yard
MH - Domperignon Du Lys looks a likely improver
HB - If on soft side then Brian Ellison’s Nietzsche is apparently flying at home

Day 3

Stayers Hurdle

AG - Unowwhatimeanharry is probably best value of all short price favourites. The fly in ointment could be quick ground
HB - Harry has great profile but would back Cole Harden e/w
MH - Jezki e/w may improve for step up in trip. Thinks Harry will win.
KD - Can't put up anything up against Harry. Skinny but worthy price.
AG - backed Cole Harden e/w at 14s and 12s. Warren Greateaux thinks CH is beck to best but doesn't want rain. Ballyoptic or CH without the fav could be the bet.
JD - CH e/w as well.

Ryanair

JD - Antepost bet on Uxizandre, one of bets of week. UDS wants it soft.
AG - UDS only proven over trip at Auteuil so would discount this although on his day is the quality horse on show. Would like to see Sizing John here. Empire of Dirt is of interest as won like a classy horse. Sub Lieutenant is a great placepot selection. Uxizande will be ridden aggressively and ideally wants a visit. Be best to back him and lay in running.
MH - Uxizandre goes well here. Empire of Dirt e/w bet to nothing. Thinks UDS would go ok on good ground.
HB - UDS will appreciate step up in trip. Uxizandre only one run in 2 years would be a question mark.

JLT

AG - Yorkhill has more ability than others. Bit worried about him jumping left and not straightforward but could well win easy and the price will look a snip after the race.
KD - Will give punters 2/1 on Yorkhill. Wins unimpressive and would take him on.
MH - That 2/1 offered by KD is best price in town. Little bit worried about his schooling round.
HB - concerned the fence 3 out may catch him out if not timed right going at speed. Second half of schooling round was good. Charbel should run here.
AG - could go either way with Yorkhill. Back Politolgue e/w may lay off on day. AG thinks Charbel will go Arkle. Top Notch may be of interest if he were a bigger price.

Pertemps

AG - Strongest Antepost handicap bet on For Good Measure e/w (Hobbs yard) got in on 138 and could be a plot.
MH - Also likes For Good Measure. Thinks he should be rated 150 plus. Small Mention for Jury Duty.
HB - Big fan of Presenting Percy. Won well at Fairyhouse. He's spoken to Davy who also likes him.

Browns Advisory

JD - Go Conquer if he turns up,
AG - Quite by Chance be his placepot selection and should be in prize money
MH - Sizing Codelco could be decent e/w
HB - If Thomas Crapper gets in would back him. Wind been done.

Kim Muir

AG - Would like to see Singlefarmpayment here but was told in break he is going for Ultima (by me)
KD - nothing been backed here Antepost
MH - Bro in law Neil Mullholland Says his best chance at festival is Southfield Royale at 14/1
HB - would look at Jockeys here. Jamie Codd, Rich Harding etc.

Raffle - I won a nice bottle of champagne. Money goes to injured jockeys fund.

Day 4

Gold Cup

AG - Cue Card a bit short now. Winner will be from Cue Card, Native River or Djakadam. Would do the one you fancy in a forecast with the other two. I.e. CC to beat NR and CC to beat Djakadam. Djakadam fallen here twice in 4 rides. Sizing John e/w chance. More of that and Bristol de Mai may outrun odds. Backed NR and Djakadam in multiples.
KD - biggest loser for bookies would be cue card. Bit short now. Would be against Djakadam but respects NR. Good outsider more of that. Travelled well before unseating lto.
JD Asks will Sizing John stay?
MH - doesn't think Cue Card will stay up the hill. Keen on NR and will stay. Don Poli will stay but only for place money. Lay CC.
HB - fan of NR, will stay and very impressive. Maybe e/w squeak for Smad Place
JD - BdM similar profile to imperial commander but can't have him.
AG - BdM more of a Betfair chase horse.

Triumph

MH - Defi du Seuil skinny price but a fair chance. Will be a quick pace race. E/w chance for Landofhopeandglory at 16s
HB - Project Bluebrook e/w. Brian wasn't happy with him the last day but schooled really well since and 20/1 is a great price.
KD - DDS price is about right. Someone walked into Corals and asked for £1000 e/w on Soldier in Action at 33/1. Corals said win only but ended up with £500 e/w at 25s. Master Blueyes gets better each race.
AG - likes MB massive improvement in last race after taking a while for penny to drop. Has small win bet on Mega Fortune at 25’s. DDS shorter than he should be. Would be tempted to run him in supreme on his ideal ground. May dry out by Friday. AG also says Landofhopeandglory wasn't busy on his last run. Similar profile to Ivanovich Gorbatov.

Albert Bartlett

MH - Death Duty worthy favourite. Jack Kennedy says his festival banker.
HB - JK is an exceptional rider and would take his word on DD. Likes West Approach e/w.
AG - Wholestone is generally the better call, jumping is good and strong in finish. DD not proven at the trip or ground or even at course. Rather back both Wholestone and West Approach against DD. DD so short as trainer and jockey been talking him up. If it hoys down would back Ami Desbois e/w.

County

JD - North Hill Harvey is interesting at 7/1
HB - Skelton very keen on North Hill Harvey. Harry Skelton will throw kitchen sink at him.
MH - Peace and Co could run well
AG - Watch Skelton's well handicapped horses. Winter escape e/w at 20s if he gets in. Gamble may appear on this one.
JD jokes last time at a foggy Haydock Callum Bewley whacked his horse 16 times down back straight and no one could see him.
KD - nothing of interest here

Martin Pipe

MH - The Storyteller looks to be laid out for this
HB - Worst race in the festival to ride in. Everyone wants to be handy, it's carnage.
AG - says this is a race to watch. If had to pick would go The Storyteller or No Comment
KD - Owners of Sleep Easy had £3000 e/w on him. They don’t leave their money behind. Got to be worth a bet with nrnb
AG - Brian Hughes likes Cloudy Dream, Cyrus Darius (champ Hurdle), Hawk High stepping up in trip and Project Bluebrook. His biggest chance is Double Ws who he says has a massive chance in the Close Brothers.

Grand Annual

MH - Vaniteaux e/w
HB - Upsilon Bleu e/w (Henry will ride)
AG - Was hoping Savello would run
KD - good luck with this race!!

Bankers/best bets

JD - Foxtail Hill win
KD - Uxizandre e/w in Ryanair
AG - Cole Harden e/w or without Harry. Maybe Ballyoptic
MH - Domperignon du Lys
HB - Presenting Percy in Pertemps